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On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun
This definitely depends on where you were raised lol
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On October 05 2017 05:53 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun This definitely depends on where you were raised lol
we are enlightened Leftists here able to recognize and respect different ways of life
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On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun
It is? Ok then, nevermind. I still find it weird that someone would type it out though. None of the Scottish I know would do it, even if they speak it. It is considered extremely disrespectful and insincere.
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On October 05 2017 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:There has to be another thread to talk about the idiosyncrasies of the American English language. Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Harping on xDaunt's use of y'all is much sillier than his consistent use of it. I'd much rather harp on his ahistorical objection to the US being founded on racism
I blame that on bad public education and college history professors not making up for that.
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On October 05 2017 05:54 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:53 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
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Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun This definitely depends on where you were raised lol we are enlightened Leftists here able to recognize and respect different ways of life
Well, in Oregon, it is a pretty cut and dry situation. There are regions of Oregon that heavily use y'all. They've never lived in the South. The only common quality among all the Oregon communities that use it is that they are all deeply rural/agricultural areas where education is very poor. If I may use my favorite example: Molalla high school does not offer second language classes. But they offer classes on using a tractor. Yes, really. This kinda quality (though not the same thing) can be found in pretty much all Oregon communities that you will ever hear y'all. If you are an Oregon native, it is a definitive declaration of socioeconomic status.
That being said, I have met plenty of very bright people from other states who use y'all. I by no means label it purely shitty.
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On October 05 2017 05:49 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
The consistency is the wierd thing though. If it was once in a while, I would think it'll be because he wishes to express solidarity with Americaness, kind of how bardtown would call everyone a wanker every now and then in the UK thread. It's as if there is an American politics behind it.
I usually think consistency is a part of normal speech patterns. Making this a symptom of a sort of politics is all in your head. Not to mention it makes you look silly.
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I only added " It's as if there is an American politics behind it." as a jokey reference against accusations that I am derailing the thread. I didn't expect anyone to take that sentence seriously. I was going to type "US politics" but it didn't flow properly.
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On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person.
On a sidenote reading Twitter messages written in Scottish or some other accent is a glorious thing to behold
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On October 05 2017 06:07 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. On a sidenote reading Twitter messages written in Scottish or some other accent is a glorious thing to behold
lol assuming you are referring to scottishpeopletwitter. My first time in that sub I was like "...bird? what?"
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On October 05 2017 05:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun It is? Ok then, nevermind. I still find it weird that someone would type it out though. None of the Scottish I know would do it, even if they speak it. It is considered extremely disrespectful and insincere. Also I just phoned a Scottish friend and he said his Grandfather types out "ye" . But apparently he also types out pauses like this "..." instead of fullstops.
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I hope you realize how close minded and insulated you look when you resort to arguments like "None of X people I know do this" and assuming the people speaking in their native dialects when it isn't causing additional hardships to the listener is somehow disrespectful.
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On October 05 2017 05:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun It is? Ok then, nevermind. I still find it weird that someone would type it out though. None of the Scottish I know would do it, even if they speak it. It is considered extremely disrespectful and insincere.
The only part about his "y'all"-ing that bothers me is the way he uses it. Whenever he has encountered someone who disagrees with his generally far-right views, he whips out "y'all", typically "y'all on the left", to paint everyone who disagrees with him for any reason as part of some vile "left entity", and dismisses them out of hand. He uses it a lot to perpetuate his arguments in absentia, such as when he challenges the assertion that the US was founded off the backs of slaves and slave ownership, and dismisses it as being unpatriotic.
I would be similarly put off if he used any other phrasing, it's the casual lumping everyone into a single category thing that's the problem, and why he generally isn't worth the time. His use of slang doesn't bother me though.
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On October 05 2017 06:28 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
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Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun It is? Ok then, nevermind. I still find it weird that someone would type it out though. None of the Scottish I know would do it, even if they speak it. It is considered extremely disrespectful and insincere. The only part about his "y'all"-ing that bothers me is the way he uses it. Whenever he has encountered someone who disagrees with his generally far-right views, he whips out "y'all", typically "y'all on the left", to paint everyone who disagrees with him for any reason as part of some vile "left entity", and dismisses them out of hand. He uses it a lot to perpetuate his arguments in absentia, such as when he challenges the assertion that the US was founded off the backs of slaves and slave ownership, and dismisses it as being unpatriotic. I would be similarly put off if he used any other phrasing, it's the casual lumping everyone into a single category thing that's the problem, and why he generally isn't worth the time.
yeah, that's what it is for me to. The times it is and is not used speak to why it is used.
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since i have the opportunity to come out in support of XD for a change, y’all is strictly superior to any northern counterpart.
and this really sucks to do:On October 05 2017 05:54 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 05:53 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 05:50 IgnE wrote:On October 05 2017 05:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 05:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 04:56 Mohdoo wrote:On October 05 2017 04:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 05 2017 04:28 xDaunt wrote:On October 05 2017 03:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:On October 05 2017 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
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Y'all on the Left should be shaming this post a little more. I know how much you guys hate having your patriotism questioned, and this kind of stupid shit does nothing but reinforce those very sentiments. really dunno how you got the impression leftists hate having our patriotism questioned. As far as I'm concerned, what you seemingly regard as patriotism (based on how you phrase your condemnation of gahlo's post) is a vice more than a virtue. Historically, it's a common sore spot for the American Left. And I've seen plenty of American posters object to it around here. I think the reaction to my charge is all you really need to see. Now, it could be that y'all care less than you used to. Why do you keep typing "y'all"? And why does no one comment that he types "y'all"? It's his less than creative version of "bruh" as a somewhat condescending method of trying to come off as disconnected and unconcerned with the ideas and responses being discussed. It's a shitty attempt at semi-trolling. yeah, that is exactly my feeling. It just feels like he's being a troll. It's just strange since he is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this thread No, I just use y'all in every day speech. Why do you type like dis? Dere 'r' ai 'undred accents in the yoo-K but no un types like how dey talk. In doing so you come across as disrespectful and insincere, which is completely at odds as when you write that you have respectful values or that you are indeed a sincere person. y'all is a perfectly functional and respectable 2nd person plural pronoun This definitely depends on where you were raised lol we are enlightened Leftists here able to recognize and respect different ways of life
sounds silly to be so serious in a discussion around ‘y’all’, but, this. this is right for sure. this argument over the strictly superior ‘y’all’ is crazy. unless he starts typing ‘all y’all.’ then we have a problem.
and where have you grown up that ‘y’all’ isn’t respectable? as a new yorker i find this odd.
ITS EVEN GENDER NEUTRAL for you micro aggressive ‘you guys’ abusers.
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On October 05 2017 06:38 brian wrote:
since i have the opportunity to come out in support of XD for a change, y’all is strictly superior to any northern counterpart.
Is this it? Is this how the new civil war starts?
A better question is can you shit post on a shit topic? or is every post on it shit?
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On October 05 2017 06:40 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 06:38 brian wrote:
since i have the opportunity to come out in support of XD for a change, y’all is strictly superior to any northern counterpart. Is this it? Is this how the new civil war starts? A better question is can you shit post on a shit topic? or is every post on it shit?
2107 is the year of the shit post administration. Its topical.
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This is probably as true as it'll ever be.
If those men all resigned in the next week, the white house would stop functioning with every other part of the administration, rather than creaking along.
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Aside from Tillerson actively trying to gut the state department, what is he doing that people find so respectable? Putting up with Trump and working damage control?
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On October 05 2017 07:29 Tachion wrote:
Aside from Tillerson actively trying to gut the state department, what is he doing that people find so respectable? Putting up with Trump and working damage control?
Not being clownish and being in lockstep with Mattis and Kelly, mostly.
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