• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:15
CEST 19:15
KST 02:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview1[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Semifinals B Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1691 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8257

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8255 8256 8257 8258 8259 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43989 Posts
July 30 2017 15:16 GMT
#165121
On July 30 2017 23:10 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2017 17:25 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On July 30 2017 17:15 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 30 2017 17:01 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Democrats having affairs and stuff tends to end careers for some reason while it doesn't phase Republicans for a second. There's a definite double standard as far as that goes. Dems definitely have to stop giving a shit about any of that stuff.


I feel like there is one major Democratic figurehead that craps all over that idea. He's responsible for the nickname "Oral Office" if I'm not mistaken.


He ended up impeached, meanwhile like 100% of the Republicans involved in that witch hunt turned out to be having affairs themselves. How many wives has Newt had since then?

The Senate did not remove; ergo Democratic President survived impeachment after committing perjury on a famous affair. Wife runs for president some years later. Oops.

How dare a wife run for president after her husband received a blowjob from another woman!
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 30 2017 15:17 GMT
#165122
There have been some good signs at the state level for Democrats as far as election results, and even if they didn't snag any special House seats the actual way the candidates presented themselves in those elections they lost was a lot more persuasive than I think they're given credit for. If similar people continue to appear and the DNC doesn't spend billions running opponent attack ads to energize Republicans I think there's a lot of hope for the Democrats in both an electoral and messaging sense.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6132 Posts
July 30 2017 15:18 GMT
#165123
On July 31 2017 00:10 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 00:00 farvacola wrote:
On July 30 2017 23:55 micronesia wrote:
I really think after this administration, "but Trump" is going to be more objectionable than any of the other 'but' statements in recent years. Most people are going to distance themselves from him as though they never supported him, or stopped supporting him as soon as he started showing he was not suitable as president (despite whatever the reality might be but it doesn't matter).

This notion basically robs everyone who voted for Trump of agency while absolving them for their choice at the same time. There's a better way than "but Trump," but you're mistaken if you think Democrats are going to benefit from completely ignoring the rise and fall of Trump.

I'm ready for future "Even Trump supported an expansion of entitlement programs."

He used the Republican Party vehicle for his ascent to the White House, but as others here pointed out, he'd support single payer if it's popular and gets the moniker Trumpcare.

Show nested quote +
stopped supporting him as soon as he started showing he was not suitable as president

Obligatory "only supported given the binary nature of US presidential elections" here (amazing how it's still relevant). Redo the election with a believable conservative dem or a brick and Trump doesn't get my vote.

Are you posturing for thread credibility or why wouldn't you wait for the 4 year report card to make that assessment, what went into that? Or have you been saying that the whole time but I forgot or missed it?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 15:32:12
July 30 2017 15:31 GMT
#165124
Danglars to his credit has only minimally supported Trump and has justified his vote on narrow grounds relating to the US presidential election system (which may be a simplification but it captures a good portion). I could never agree on a vote for Donald Trump, simply because of competence and standing for the US, but that seems to be his view.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
July 30 2017 16:11 GMT
#165125
I think the 2016 US presidential election just shows what our democracy has been reduced to: Monkeys throwing shit at each other. Whoever throws more shit that sticks wins.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 30 2017 16:15 GMT
#165126
On July 31 2017 01:11 riotjune wrote:
I think the 2016 US presidential election just shows what our democracy has been reduced to: Monkeys throwing shit at each other. Whoever throws more shit that sticks wins.

democracy has always been deeply flawed; it's just sometimes more apparent than other times. and of course it has its ups and downs, and has been on a downward trend for awhile now.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 30 2017 16:19 GMT
#165127
On July 31 2017 00:10 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 00:00 farvacola wrote:
On July 30 2017 23:55 micronesia wrote:
I really think after this administration, "but Trump" is going to be more objectionable than any of the other 'but' statements in recent years. Most people are going to distance themselves from him as though they never supported him, or stopped supporting him as soon as he started showing he was not suitable as president (despite whatever the reality might be but it doesn't matter).

This notion basically robs everyone who voted for Trump of agency while absolving them for their choice at the same time. There's a better way than "but Trump," but you're mistaken if you think Democrats are going to benefit from completely ignoring the rise and fall of Trump.

I'm ready for future "Even Trump supported an expansion of entitlement programs."

He used the Republican Party vehicle for his ascent to the White House, but as others here pointed out, he'd support single payer if it's popular and gets the moniker Trumpcare.

Show nested quote +
stopped supporting him as soon as he started showing he was not suitable as president

Obligatory "only supported given the binary nature of US presidential elections" here (amazing how it's still relevant). Redo the election with a believable conservative dem or a brick and Trump doesn't get my vote.

I doubt your claim that some other dem might have gotten your vote.
the way people actually think and vote shows a very strong trend of people simply voting for their "side" then rationalizing a reason afterwards. there's been a lot of research in the area and the effects show very strongly. Trump would probably get at least 40% popular vote no matter who he was up against. and I believe you'd be among those voting for the republican side no matter what.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 16:41:36
July 30 2017 16:21 GMT
#165128
I really think that Trump's not just ignorantly disruptive but deliberately so.

For example: Healthcare. He should want to simply put this behind him, and move on to something that he is more likely to succeed at, so he can claim victory.

Why's he not doing that? Because failure, at all levels, is what this is about.
So with healthcare: he either further stalls Congress from actually doing anything, or somehow they miraculously succeed in destroying healthcare for millions of Americans. If you don't like America: that's a win-win situation.
From a guy who lives in reality-TV world of marketing and personal-PR, Donald would logically move away from healthcare at this point, quick as can.

Just as he knows how bad it looks that he throws out foreign-policy over Twitter like an internet-troll. Donald Trump might not be smart, but no one is actually this stupid.

Some of this is too crazy to just be crazy. It's crazy like a fox: from the Republican-elected Russo-Manchurian Candidate. He's getting beaten around the ring like a wrestling-show -- yes, he's "losing", but that's actually kind of the point. The real losers are the people who paid to watch this stupid fakery.
Big water
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 16:46:28
July 30 2017 16:45 GMT
#165129
On July 31 2017 01:21 Leporello wrote:
I really think that Trump's not just ignorantly disruptive but deliberately so.

For example: Healthcare. He should want to simply put this behind him, and move on to something that he is more likely to succeed at, so he can claim victory.

Why's he not doing that? Because failure, at all levels, is what this is about.
So with healthcare: he either further stalls Congress from actually doing anything, or somehow they miraculously succeed in destroying healthcare for millions of Americans. If you don't like America: that's a win-win situation.
From a guy who lives in reality-TV world of marketing and personal-PR, Donald would logically move away from healthcare at this point, quick as can.

Just as he knows how bad it looks that he throws out foreign-policy over Twitter like an internet-troll. Donald Trump might not be smart, but no one is actually this stupid.

Some of this is too crazy to just be crazy. It's crazy like a fox: from the Republican-elected Russo-Manchurian Candidate. He's getting beaten around the ring like a wrestling-show -- yes, he's "losing", but that's actually kind of the point. The real losers are the people who paid to watch this stupid fakery.

No, Healthcare fails because the Republican party is deeply divided and the 2 camps are actually radically opposed despite being in a single party.
There is no plan that can combine the wishes of 51 Republicans, that's why it keeps failing.
The stupidity is in that they keep trying so publicly.

Trump doesn't give two shits about what gets passed so long as he can claim credit and it doesn't hurt him financially, bonus points if he gets to make more money off of it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 16:51:40
July 30 2017 16:51 GMT
#165130
I think Donald is actually so feeble minded as to dysfunctional. His campaign and presidency is an exercise in him watching TV and hearing about himself.
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
July 30 2017 17:00 GMT
#165131
On July 31 2017 00:10 Danglars wrote:
Obligatory "only supported given the binary nature of US presidential elections" here (amazing how it's still relevant). Redo the election with a believable conservative dem or a brick and Trump doesn't get my vote.


Do you have anyone in mind you would have voted for over Trump that is a Democrat?
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
July 30 2017 17:03 GMT
#165132
Can anyone figure out any rhyme or reason behind Trump's capitalization in tweets? When he writes "the World is watching," what is the thinking behind capitalizing world? All I can think of is maybe he wants an intermediate level of emphasis between "world" and "WORLD," but he doesn't seem like a man to bother with intermediate anything
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 30 2017 17:10 GMT
#165133
On July 31 2017 02:03 ChristianS wrote:
Can anyone figure out any rhyme or reason behind Trump's capitalization in tweets? When he writes "the World is watching," what is the thinking behind capitalizing world? All I can think of is maybe he wants an intermediate level of emphasis between "world" and "WORLD," but he doesn't seem like a man to bother with intermediate anything


Could be Autocorrect.
On track to MA1950A.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 17:29:44
July 30 2017 17:28 GMT
#165134
Some languages (german for example) capitalize nouns. No idea why Trump would do that though.

Also, yes, autocorrect does weird capitalization. Which is kinda strange, capitalization in english is really simple. First word in a sentence and names capital, everything else not.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 30 2017 17:37 GMT
#165135
On July 31 2017 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Some languages (german for example) capitalize nouns. No idea why Trump would do that though.

Also, yes, autocorrect does weird capitalization. Which is kinda strange, capitalization in english is really simple. First word in a sentence and names capital, everything else not.


Yup, considerably harder in german to capitalise properly.

Small insight here.

https://orthografietrainer.net/service/faustregeln_GK.php

My bet still is autocorrect, mine (Sony) is off now because of weird capitalisation, and general dickishness.
On track to MA1950A.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 18:39:18
July 30 2017 17:39 GMT
#165136

I could imagine autocorrect wanting to capitalize World because it's part of the name of a lot of things that are capitalized (World Trade Organization, World Series, World Championship Series, etc.). And Repeal and Replace is at least kind of proper noun-like. But Cross State Lines doesn't make a lot of sense either way.

Edit: well this is sending me down a bit of a rabbit hole. I'm gonna collect weird capitalization tweets here in a spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +
HealthCare, Insurance Companies, Members of Congress
complete Healthcare
Great American...
...and a Great Leader
Failing @nytimes
a major Trade Deal

Okay I'm bored with this now, won't bother finding more.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 30 2017 18:04 GMT
#165137
Common you all know it's some sort of hex code for Russia motherland. /s or not?
Life?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 30 2017 18:04 GMT
#165138
I can't be the only who gets nervous when Trump mentions "nuke option" in a casual tweet.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 30 2017 18:41 GMT
#165139
On July 31 2017 03:04 NewSunshine wrote:
I can't be the only who gets nervous when Trump mentions "nuke option" in a casual tweet.

There was an era where that shit would have crashed markets and sent entire countries into panic...
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-30 18:55:00
July 30 2017 18:49 GMT
#165140
I mean in context he clearly means nuking the filibuster, which is still insanity but not market-crashing crazy.

Speaking of, what do you guys think are the chances that the filibuster gets nuked?

Edit: My new theory, by the way, is that Trump uses capitalization like colored text in a Zelda game, to draw attention to the words he thinks are important. The autocorrect theory doesn't make sense to me because it seems very intentional, and because he hasn't gotten the wrong word almost ever.

It's also not impossible that he doesn't fully understand how capitalization is supposed to work. The guy is clearly not a writer.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Prev 1 8255 8256 8257 8258 8259 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
16:00
RO8 TieBreaker
TBD vs SterlingLIVE!
eOnzErG vs TBD
ZZZero.O309
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
16:00
Ro16 Group A
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
Airneanach66
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 3805
ProTech119
BRAT_OK 50
JuggernautJason24
MindelVK 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25448
firebathero 332
ZZZero.O 309
hero 228
Aegong 36
Rock 20
Hm[arnc] 19
soO 12
Dota 2
Gorgc8810
qojqva1293
monkeys_forever154
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2079
zeus399
Other Games
Grubby15960
singsing2094
FrodaN1161
Liquid`RaSZi1045
Beastyqt825
B2W.Neo544
KnowMe252
ArmadaUGS133
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick506
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 19
• printf 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2422
Other Games
• Shiphtur257
Upcoming Events
BSL
1h 46m
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Patches Events
5h 31m
GSL
14h 46m
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
22h 46m
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
1d 1h
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.