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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 16 2017 16:52 GMT
#157501
On an interesting note, with all this "lawyers donated to Democrats therefore they're biased against Trump" I've learned something shocking that clarifies why Trump screws himself over: from 1989-2015, he donated 694,750 dollars to Democrats (and 1,150,540 dollars to Republicans). 2011-2015 he basically stopped donating to Dems, which is the only reason the R donation amount is so high.

I think pre-2011 Donald is sabotaging 2017 Donald. It's the only logical explanation.

On June 17 2017 01:40 NewSunshine wrote:


Wonder how Rasmussen had to word their polls to get that number. "Great news! Only half the country dislikes me now!"


Well, his approval rating apparently rose 7 points in 3 days. So I'm not really sure. Fucking weird though.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2017 16:53 GMT
#157502
On June 17 2017 01:41 KwarK wrote:
The idea that the President's staunchest supporters would balk at anything Trump did is absurd. If Trump called upon members of /r/tD to assassinate his political opponents they'd cheer his name louder.

I think she is specifically talking about congress. If he fires Rosenstein and then Mueller, we would be a full constitutional crisis.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
June 16 2017 16:54 GMT
#157503
Is this usual?

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 17:01:06
June 16 2017 16:57 GMT
#157504
On June 17 2017 01:40 NewSunshine wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875732813278048256

Wonder how Rasmussen had to word their polls to get that number. "Great news! Only half the country dislikes me now!"

Rasmussen uses a likely voter model, unlike every other approval poll. Likely voters for which election? No one knows. It lets them skew these pretty hard.

For a comparison, I think these are the worst numbers for Trump from any poll and they came out yesterday via the AP :
Overall, 64 percent disapprove and just 35 percent approve of his job performance.

Trump was unpopular among Americans overall even as he was elected president, but the poll shows that even many Republicans have doubts. Nearly a third of Republicans and independents who lean toward the Republican party think Trump has little to no respect for the country’s democratic institutions, and a quarter disapprove of the job he’s doing as president.

Nine in 10 Democrats and 6 in 10 independents say the same.



https://apnews.com/024824c4f6ce4eddae98f4156e36553e/Poll-shows-most-doubt-Trump's-respect-for-institutions

So I'm not sure what's up with rasmussen
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 16:58:21
June 16 2017 16:57 GMT
#157505
On June 17 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Is this usual?

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/875751904105639936


Well, it's usual in that if a lawyer ever needs a personal lawyer he should hire one instead of doing it himself. And given that the investigation may be far-reaching regardless of its veracity, it's not a bad idea to have one. Especially if he worked on the campaign.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
June 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#157506
On June 17 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Is this usual?

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/875751904105639936


"I did illegal things to help my client do illegal things, so now I need someone to do what got me in trouble for me"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 17:00:26
June 16 2017 16:59 GMT
#157507
On June 17 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Is this usual?

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/875751904105639936

Yes. If somehow Trump's attorney worked on aspect of any transaction or something that would come under the scope of the investigation, he is best served by having another law firm handle that. The investigation might just be requesting documents or records, but another law office can go through those, redact privileged information, and then send them to the investigators.

On June 17 2017 01:58 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Is this usual?

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/875751904105639936


"I did illegal things to help my client do illegal things, so now I need someone to do what got me in trouble for me"

Not really. It is mostly "I'm an attorney and not stupid enough to represent myself when the FBI comes knocking for my records."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
June 16 2017 17:10 GMT
#157508
On June 16 2017 23:49 Tachion wrote:
Maybe it's because Obama has 90m followers and he has to one-up him.

It's crowdsize, or anything size with him, all over again.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 17:54:07
June 16 2017 17:51 GMT
#157509
On June 17 2017 01:52 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On an interesting note, with all this "lawyers donated to Democrats therefore they're biased against Trump" I've learned something shocking that clarifies why Trump screws himself over: from 1989-2015, he donated 694,750 dollars to Democrats (and 1,150,540 dollars to Republicans). 2011-2015 he basically stopped donating to Dems, which is the only reason the R donation amount is so high.

I think pre-2011 Donald is sabotaging 2017 Donald. It's the only logical explanation.

.

I really enjoy the idea that Obama making fun of Trump at the 2011 correspondents dinner triggered him so hard that he decided to make it his personal mission to become president and undo everything Obama did just out of pure spite. Knowing now how he can't take any criticism at all, this must have been one of the worst moments in his life.

It's not true though since Trump talked about presidency way earlier than this but it's such a glorious villain origin story.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
June 16 2017 18:00 GMT
#157510
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2017 18:21 GMT
#157511
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 18:27:30
June 16 2017 18:26 GMT
#157512
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
June 16 2017 18:29 GMT
#157513
On June 17 2017 03:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/875766431518011394


Why not name the source? How am I supposed to trust Jim Acosta when he's not telling everyone on Twitter who his sources are? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait, that's exactly how everything has always been done.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 16 2017 18:30 GMT
#157514
You got beaten to the punch. Repeating twitter posts. Bad Stealthblue, bad!

On June 17 2017 01:54 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Is this usual?

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/875751904105639936
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 18:34:51
June 16 2017 18:34 GMT
#157515
Cohen is not Caputo. ones his lawyer the others a former campaign adviser
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 16 2017 18:51 GMT
#157516
On June 17 2017 03:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.


It will be interesting to see if Amazon starts roll to roll out upgrades to Whole Foods stores to maybe operate/look like the AI operated stores it has in Washington.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
June 16 2017 18:53 GMT
#157517
On June 17 2017 03:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:21 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.


It will be interesting to see if Amazon starts roll to roll out upgrades to Whole Foods stores to maybe operate/look like the AI operated stores it has in Washington.


That was my take on it as well. Maybe they will start the revolution...
I am, therefore I pee
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
June 16 2017 18:54 GMT
#157518
On June 17 2017 03:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.


Amazon has an insane amount of cultural advantage though. Amazon is a company people would feel encouraged to test out. I generally agree with Amazon's perspective on how they can improve my life and add value. Walmart is like every single thing wrong with our country. I go out of my way to not interact with Walmart.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42640 Posts
June 16 2017 18:57 GMT
#157519
On June 17 2017 03:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:21 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.


Amazon has an insane amount of cultural advantage though. Amazon is a company people would feel encouraged to test out. I generally agree with Amazon's perspective on how they can improve my life and add value. Walmart is like every single thing wrong with our country. I go out of my way to not interact with Walmart.

If I needed a Walmart account to shop at AI Walmarts then I probably wouldn't bother. If I just needed my existing Amazon credit card which is already linked to my existing Amazon account to shop at AI Amazon stores then that's no hardship.

For whatever reason Walmart has lagged behind when it comes to big data farming and accounts, not even having a loyalty program in their main business (Sam's Club obviously does).
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
June 16 2017 19:02 GMT
#157520
On June 17 2017 03:57 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:54 Mohdoo wrote:
On June 17 2017 03:21 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2017 03:00 Gahlo wrote:
On June 16 2017 22:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
In other news one the biggest companies in the US, Amazon, just bought Whole Foods.

Not surprising. Amazon has been planning on rolling out their grocery stores for a while now, Whole Foods that a good name in areas with money, and good locations.

Just gives me more reason to not buy from Whole Foods, because fuck Amazon.

The Walmart v Amazon war continues. Both want the others market.


Amazon has an insane amount of cultural advantage though. Amazon is a company people would feel encouraged to test out. I generally agree with Amazon's perspective on how they can improve my life and add value. Walmart is like every single thing wrong with our country. I go out of my way to not interact with Walmart.

If I needed a Walmart account to shop at AI Walmarts then I probably wouldn't bother. If I just needed my existing Amazon credit card which is already linked to my existing Amazon account to shop at AI Amazon stores then that's no hardship.

For whatever reason Walmart has lagged behind when it comes to big data farming and accounts, not even having a loyalty program in their main business (Sam's Club obviously does).


Right. So not only does Amazon have a ton of momentum going into all this, but they are also selling a better product. My Amazon ecosystem and centralization are satisfying and add simplicity. Buying stuff at Walmart and buying into their ecosystem is kind of like having to carry around a second wallet. Maybe not a great metaphor, but you get the idea.

When you add in Amazon's views on automation, self driving cars, etc, I see Amazon as a company worth sticking with because I see the value will only increase. Remember when suddenly Prime members got a $5/month value out of Twitch? Shit just comes out of nowhere. Video streaming? Music? The value of my Prime membership goes up each year. At this point I would seriously question why someone living in the US does not have a Prime membership.
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