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{CC}StealthBlue
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Lionsguard
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On May 18 2017 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/864874585660968960 Trump getting results on the issues where obstructionists aren't constantly delaying him. | ||
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Slydie
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On May 18 2017 02:31 biology]major wrote: ismism - the belief that everything can be codified into an ism, and if it can't then you just make up your own definition and declare immediate supremacy of your own ismism. Perfect! Just like Anders Behring Brevig (the now sworn Nazi anti-muslim terrorist) defined the social democracy in Norway as "multiculturalism". | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
https://www.propublica.org/article/immigrants-in-detention-centers-are-often-hundreds-of-miles-from-legal-help Even thought this is a left leaning site, the article is pretty clear that the people detained do not have access to legal advice or aid. And that is fine if ICE is perfect and doesn't deport people it shouldn't. But their record is far from perfect on that front. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 18 2017 02:45 a_flayer wrote: Well, if it wasn't obvious, I'm basically ready to get the torches and pitchforks out, and I know I'm not alone in this. As I said before, the media just plays one part in the problem of "corporate fascism". Just as the media played just one part in nazi fascism (and it wasn't in the killing of people, now was it?). Speaking of killing people... (I see the rise in suicides as being the result of what I'd call "corporate fascism" - although its likely not exclusive to that) Source What makes it truly fascinating/worrisome is how this is happening despite some small trends in suicide methods away from guns. A lot of historical trends of increases and decreases in completed suicides have been chalked up to people using guns more/less, since they're by far the most reliable way to complete a suicide. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18442 Posts
On May 18 2017 02:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So the Middle East trip will be to unveil a Arab NATO plan according to the Washington Post. Terrible idea. Please don't drag the EU into this. I really don't feel like being dragged into war because Iran and Saudi Arabia have a fight and someone invokes article 5. Hopefully our politicians don't either, but Rutte, Bruma and Pechtold are lickspittles and Wilders has a hard-on for all things Trump, so I don't have high expectations from them. And here in Spain we have Rajoy, nincompoop par excellence, probably praying for any excuse to take the focus off the internal problems. | ||
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Grumbels
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On May 18 2017 03:32 Plansix wrote: Sessions is getting those results by doing exactly what everyone said he would, fighting a pointless war on drugs and deporting as many people as possible with a little due process as possible. The detention centers they are opening to keep all these illegal immigrants are far away from any legal representation. And the courts are in the detention centers. https://www.propublica.org/article/immigrants-in-detention-centers-are-often-hundreds-of-miles-from-legal-help Even thought this is a left leaning site, the article is pretty clear that the people detained do not have access to legal advice or aid. And that is fine if ICE is perfect and doesn't deport people it shouldn't. But their record is far from perfect on that front. Calling someone an illegal immigrant, or terrorist for that matter, is such a seemingly effective way of demonizing a group of people and making the public stop caring about what happens to them. This is one of those cases where I'd wish people would spend some time investigating typical life stories of immigrants, to see they are not dangerous criminals but normal people in a bad situation who need to be treated with human decency. Instead of going on Breitbart and scaremongering about 'rapefugees' and whatnot. | ||
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Nevuk
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On May 18 2017 02:53 brian wrote: ignorant question here- does anyone besides The Don have any issue with raising tensions with Turkey? tensions have raised with turkey whether we want it to or not. I'm ambivalent on the topic; turkey has done some stuff well worth raised tensions over, or a reduced alliance/reliance; otoh they've been a long-time ally and they're still in a very strategically useful position, so they seem useful to have right now. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Lawyers of TL what does this mean? https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/864899933152923648 It means they're working on something that is both highly judicial resource intensive and publicly sensitive. It's not clear that this has ever happened before, the closing of otherwise permanently open federal courts. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:10 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: DOW down 320 points today currently. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/^DJI?p=^DJI Another way to say "some people are panicking" and 95% of the time nothing more. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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ticklishmusic
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On May 18 2017 04:13 farvacola wrote: It means they're working on something that is both highly judicial resource intensive and publicly sensitive. It's not clear that this has ever happened before, the closing of otherwise permanently open federal courts. claud taylor and louise mensch are both pretty much crackpots. or they're people pretending to be crackpots for attention and $$$. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:13 farvacola wrote: It means they're working on something that is both highly judicial resource intensive and publicly sensitive. It's not clear that this has ever happened before, the closing of otherwise permanently open federal courts. The Federal judges wouldn’t issue a search warrant? Once you get into investigation politicians, I have no idea who has jurisdiction over what. | ||
KwarK
United States44292 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:17 ticklishmusic wrote: claud taylor and louise mensch are both pretty much crackpots. or they're people pretending to be crackpots for attention and $$$. It's worth noting that Louise Mensch was a Conservative MP. She leans right. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:17 ticklishmusic wrote: claud taylor and louise mensch are both pretty much crackpots. or they're people pretending to be crackpots for attention and $$$. Don't see anything on the EDVA website or elsewhere on the internet confirming this (the court closing that is). | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:17 ticklishmusic wrote: claud taylor and louise mensch are both pretty much crackpots. or they're people pretending to be crackpots for attention and $$$. In waiting for corroborating reporting. It's too big to go off disreputable people citing independent sources. And it will be very public fairly soon if this time there's substance. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 18 2017 04:19 KwarK wrote: It's worth noting that Louise Mensch was a Conservative MP. She leans right. yep, but now she looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. On May 18 2017 04:22 Danglars wrote: In waiting for corroborating reporting. It's too big to go off disreputable people citing independent sources. And it will be very public fairly soon if this time there's substance. theyre the zerohedge of trump impeachment. if they were right orrin hatch would have been sworn in a month ago. | ||
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