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Maybe Assad will break them out again in like 2 years when Trump is looking super weak, see if he can get the missile count up to 120. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:08 Plansix wrote: Fuck you McCain you spineless shit. You're fucking party refused to vote for this shit last time around. Now you are praising Trump for not even asking As a certain infamous person once said "In Vietnam, they didn't put him in a prison, but into a hole in the ground. That is where he spent many years, and as any man would have, that is where he left his mind." | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:13 a_flayer wrote: As a certain infamous person once said "In Vietnam, they didn't put him in a prison, but into a hole in the ground. That is where he spent many years, and as any man would have, that is where he left his mind." McCain used to have a back bone. Then he wanted to be President and he had it removed to gain party approval. He used to be a bridge builder, back when he could trick democrats into thinking he would help them later on. | ||
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The degree of Trumpian hypocrisy will depend on how much more Trump does. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:13 Doodsmack wrote: To me this seems just like Obama's proposed "shot across the bow" in response to chemical weapons. It's just a (relatively) small scale response to the use of chemical weapons, as a warning that he can't do that again. But we will have to wait and see the follow-up I guess. It's the kind of retaliation that leaves you thankful that it wasn't worse, but also leaves you wondering whether it was really a good idea to do that. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:16 Introvert wrote: tbf, Obama's used Congress' refusal as an excuse. Action was debated for days before the administration trotted that one out. It was a face saving maneuver, because the "red line" was an idiotic idea in the first place. The degree of Trumpian hypocrisy will depend on how much more Trump does. Yeah, Obama was a coward. Not much to debate there. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:10 On_Slaught wrote: I'm shocked this escalated so quickly. I'm also torn. I want Assad out but can't help but feel Trump's ego will fuck things up. The question now is how do Syria\Russia\Iraq respond? This is certainly an act of war against Assad. Israel has been bombing Syrian strongholds for ages. I wouldn't worry about it. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:12 Plansix wrote: Assad isn't going to do shit. He is going to sit there for a while until the heat comes off and then continue being terrible without chemical weapons. The EU isn't going to do shit. The US isn't doing to declare war. This is it. 60 kinda meh warheads that we can launch of a politically safe distance as an empty airfield. Maybe Assad will break them out again in like 2 years when Trump is looking super weak, see if he can get the missile count up to 120. How do you figure it was an empty airfield? Probably had Russian equipment there at minimum. Regardless this exactly what Hillary wanted/wants and what Obama did put to Republicans in 2013, what happens next though is anyone's guess. Putin is going to look like a little bitch to Trump if he does nothing though. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:16 Introvert wrote: tbf, Obama used Congress' refusal as an excuse. Action was debated for days before the administration trotted that one out. It was a face saving maneuver, because the "red line" was an idiotic idea in the first place. The degree of Trumpian hypocrisy will depend on how much more Trump does. Yeah, attacking other governments with no congressional authorization is totally a thing you should just do. Its cool and wouldn't end with the Republicans whining about abuse of executive power. The House Republicans are a group of bitches and wouldn't even authorize a single airstrike. And now they are going to praise Trump for doing the thing they would have voted down in 2013. | ||
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On April 07 2017 11:22 GreenHorizons wrote: How do you figure it was an empty airfield? Probably had Russian equipment there at minimum. Regardless this exactly what Hillary wanted/wants and what Obama did put to Republicans in 2013, what happens next though is anyone's guess. Putin is going to look like a little bitch to Trump if he does nothing though. I'm sure it had some equipment in it, but they had to know once they dropped the gas that the US might respond. | ||
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