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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On April 07 2017 09:26 Plansix wrote: That would have required Congress to support him in something. They were already trying got get elected in 2014 and win in 2016. You can't have the black president taking on ruthless dictators and getting big wins. Don't you think that always characterizing the ineptitude of Congress under Obama as if it is a racial thing is kind of part of the problem with regards to polarization and so forth? I mean, they're certainly not looking like they're doing any better under Trump... | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On April 07 2017 09:29 mahrgell wrote: "take out air capabilities" "should have been done in 2013" ... Sounds like you do it once, and then there won't be any air attacks for the next couple of years. Assad's position is shaky at best and Russia had not yet reinforced Syria to the degree it has now. There was a window of opportunity during that time that nobody used, instead everybody prolonged the proxy war through rebel support . Which did exactly nothing but create a never-ending stream of dead and refugees. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 07 2017 09:33 a_flayer wrote: Don't you think that always characterizing the ineptitude of Congress under Obama as if it is a racial thing is kind of part of the problem with regards to polarization and so forth? I mean, they're certainly not looking like they're doing any better under Trump... I believe there is a statistically significant number of congress men and women that have issues with a black president. It is not the majority, but it is enough for me to mock. Congress sucks and has sucked for a long time now. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On April 07 2017 09:33 Nyxisto wrote: Assad's position is shaky at best and Russia had not yet reinforced Syria to the degree it has now. There was a window of opportunity during that time that nobody used, instead everybody prolonged the proxy war through rebel support . Which did exactly nothing but create a never-ending stream of dead and refugees. Well... then simply say you wanted Obama to overthrow Assad back then... But there is no magic "take out air force" move you do in a week and then there won't be any air force left. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
"THE OFFICIALS SAID MR. BRENNAN ALSO INDICATED THAT UNNAMED ADVISERS TO MR. TRUMP MIGHT BE WORKING WITH THE RUSSIANS to interfere in the election. The F.B.I. and two congressional committees are now investigating that claim, focusing on possible communications and financial dealings between Russian affiliates and a handful of former advisers to Mr. Trump. So far, no proof of collusion has emerged PUBLICLY." LOL. Drippity drip... | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
Yeah this is going exactly as Donald said it would... | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23295 Posts
On April 07 2017 10:16 Ayaz2810 wrote: And here we go. 50 cruise missiles launched. So this means Russia wanted Syria to get blown the fuck up right, since he's their president? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On April 07 2017 10:22 GreenHorizons wrote: So this means Russia wanted Syria to get blown the fuck up right, since he's their president? Russia just has to weigh whether or not the damage to the US's reputation is worth more than the client state in Syria. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Should he have gotten authorization? Of course. Obama asked for it. They didn't give it. But why ask for approval to attack another government when you can just launch some missiles that might do something. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44598 Posts
Edit: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/index.html  | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
Number updated to 60 and they flew low over Russian radar and antiaircraft sites. So they were seen and reported instantly obviously. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 07 2017 09:52 LegalLord wrote: What a day it's been. We seamlessly transition between crises like it were nothin'. We're becoming the EU all too quickly... Pfft if only the government would have fallen by now. | ||
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