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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 23:33:30
March 23 2017 23:31 GMT
#143681
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/senate-votes-undo-privacy-rules-171918536.html

ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 23 2017 23:32 GMT
#143682
pmh I'm wondering if that affects business class ISP too?
Life?
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 23:41:07
March 23 2017 23:34 GMT
#143683
I have no clue,it is not so important I guess. And without adds,no internet.
Personally I don't care about this,they can sell my whole internet history if they want though I have no clue why anyone would want to pay for that. An add that I see on the web usually discourages me from buying that brand/product. Specially when it is an annoying and intrusive add,but I am probably an exception with this.

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 23 2017 23:34 GMT
#143684
Ted Lieu 2020?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 23:41:54
March 23 2017 23:36 GMT
#143685
On March 24 2017 08:34 Mohdoo wrote:
Ted Lieu 2020?


If it turns out that Trump actually was working directly with the Russians sure. Lieu's been doing this since the election. Personally I like Takano more, he used to be a teacher.

but yeah this is standard Lieu. His press statements are pretty hilarious.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 23 2017 23:40 GMT
#143686
"Stop EVERYTHING right now, our government can't go on until we figure out what's going on!"

California makes the most hilarious Representatives.

(Though a government that does pretty much nothing for four years is pretty ok with me.)
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 23:43:00
March 23 2017 23:42 GMT
#143687
On March 24 2017 08:40 LegalLord wrote:
"Stop EVERYTHING right now, our government can't go on until we figure out what's going on!"

California makes the most hilarious Representatives.

(Though a government that does pretty much nothing for four years is pretty ok with me.)



I'll take Lieu over King any day of the week. Also he's not wasting time wondering why we aren't taxing the sun.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 23 2017 23:58 GMT
#143688
On March 24 2017 08:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-statement-report-trump-associates-possible-collusion-russia

Show nested quote +
Washington – Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) issued the following statement regarding the CNN report that Trump associates possibly colluded with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election in the United States.

“The bombshell revelation that U.S. officials have information that suggests Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians means we must pause the entire Trump agenda. We may have an illegitimate President of the United States currently occupying the White House.”

“Other than allowing routine governmental functions, there must be a total and complete shutdown of any agenda item being pushed by the Trump Administration. Congress cannot continue regular order and must stop voting on any Trump-backed agenda item until the FBI completes its Trump-Russia collusion investigation.”


I doubt it will happen with the current politicians - but lol for this to be on house.gov

ah, the ridiculous hyperbole, it knows no sides and happily works for all.
lol-worthy indeed. and facepalm worthy.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 24 2017 00:01 GMT
#143689
On March 24 2017 08:58 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 08:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-statement-report-trump-associates-possible-collusion-russia

Washington – Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) issued the following statement regarding the CNN report that Trump associates possibly colluded with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election in the United States.

“The bombshell revelation that U.S. officials have information that suggests Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians means we must pause the entire Trump agenda. We may have an illegitimate President of the United States currently occupying the White House.”

“Other than allowing routine governmental functions, there must be a total and complete shutdown of any agenda item being pushed by the Trump Administration. Congress cannot continue regular order and must stop voting on any Trump-backed agenda item until the FBI completes its Trump-Russia collusion investigation.”


I doubt it will happen with the current politicians - but lol for this to be on house.gov

ah, the ridiculous hyperbole, it knows no sides and happily works for all.
lol-worthy indeed. and facepalm worthy.


Republicans were amazingly effective at preventing a significant amount of Obama's plans from moving forward. I have zero objection with Democrats doing the same for the next 4 years.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 00:13:28
March 24 2017 00:12 GMT
#143690
On March 24 2017 09:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2017 08:58 zlefin wrote:
On March 24 2017 08:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-statement-report-trump-associates-possible-collusion-russia

Washington – Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) issued the following statement regarding the CNN report that Trump associates possibly colluded with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election in the United States.

“The bombshell revelation that U.S. officials have information that suggests Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians means we must pause the entire Trump agenda. We may have an illegitimate President of the United States currently occupying the White House.”

“Other than allowing routine governmental functions, there must be a total and complete shutdown of any agenda item being pushed by the Trump Administration. Congress cannot continue regular order and must stop voting on any Trump-backed agenda item until the FBI completes its Trump-Russia collusion investigation.”


I doubt it will happen with the current politicians - but lol for this to be on house.gov

ah, the ridiculous hyperbole, it knows no sides and happily works for all.
lol-worthy indeed. and facepalm worthy.


Republicans were amazingly effective at preventing a significant amount of Obama's plans from moving forward. I have zero objection with Democrats doing the same for the next 4 years.

I'd prefer they're all fired and we focus on actual sound effective governing; but sadly that's not an option.

also your point, while of some merit on its face, doesn't really seem like a response to what I said or the topic I'd responded to.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 24 2017 00:55 GMT
#143691
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 01:20:18
March 24 2017 01:05 GMT
#143692
This does not seem to be a good strategy for passing complicated legislation.

Hopefully this doesn't also become his North Korea strategy.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 24 2017 01:10 GMT
#143693
On March 24 2017 09:55 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/845056654353813505


On this topic

thehill.com

What an absolute child. But remember he's a hard worker, he won't have time for vacations, he's the best negotiator, he hires all the best people, he'll release his taxes, etc, etc, etc.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 24 2017 01:31 GMT
#143694
On March 24 2017 09:55 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/845056654353813505

The best negotiator. The true art of the deal.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 24 2017 01:31 GMT
#143695
Meanwhile in New York. But this clearly isn't terrorism.


Authorities arrested and charged a white Baltimore resident on suspicion of murder after he admitted to killing Timothy Caughman, a 66-year-old black man, in New York, police officials said this week.

James Harris Jackson, 28, an Army veteran, fatally stabbed Caughman with a 26-inch sword, said New York Police Department assistant chief William Aubry told reporters at a news conference Wednesday.

Aubry said police believe that Jackson’s attack on Caughman was “racially motivated” and that the suspect had been harboring ill feelings toward black people for more than 10 years.

Originally from Baltimore, Jackson traveled to New York because “it’s the media capital of the world, and he wanted to make a statement,” police said. As far as authorities know, he did not attack anyone else.

Police received a report Monday around 11:15 p.m. ET that a male victim had been stabbed multiple times by an unknown assailant following a dispute. The victim, who was soon identified as Caughman, walked into a nearby police precinct in Manhattan with critical injuries.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/attackers-fatal-stabbing-new-york-black-man-racially-motivated-police-say/
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 24 2017 01:34 GMT
#143696
It's March and for whatever reason, Ryan advanced a shitty plan from both sides. Time goes on. Trump, like always, talks a big talk, but knows the Republican majorities are founded on repeal and replace (or his advisors know it). Take it or leave it is just negotiating bluster and with very little impact, because there's no salvaging here, only slim possibility of a radical rewrite.

On March 24 2017 06:30 Doodsmack wrote:
Cut them some slack, they've only had 6 years and 67 prior repeal bills to prepare.

Probably the only time I'll agree with Doodsmack this year.

I'm interested to see the Nunez thing play out. The intelligence community under the Obama administration surveilled and declassified American citizens names, which were then leaked. It's slow pace and unrelated to Russia, but absolutely crucial in reigning in unaccountable bureaucracy for this administration and the future.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44307 Posts
March 24 2017 01:52 GMT
#143697
On March 24 2017 10:31 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Meanwhile in New York. But this clearly isn't terrorism.

Show nested quote +

Authorities arrested and charged a white Baltimore resident on suspicion of murder after he admitted to killing Timothy Caughman, a 66-year-old black man, in New York, police officials said this week.

James Harris Jackson, 28, an Army veteran, fatally stabbed Caughman with a 26-inch sword, said New York Police Department assistant chief William Aubry told reporters at a news conference Wednesday.

Aubry said police believe that Jackson’s attack on Caughman was “racially motivated” and that the suspect had been harboring ill feelings toward black people for more than 10 years.

Originally from Baltimore, Jackson traveled to New York because “it’s the media capital of the world, and he wanted to make a statement,” police said. As far as authorities know, he did not attack anyone else.

Police received a report Monday around 11:15 p.m. ET that a male victim had been stabbed multiple times by an unknown assailant following a dispute. The victim, who was soon identified as Caughman, walked into a nearby police precinct in Manhattan with critical injuries.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/attackers-fatal-stabbing-new-york-black-man-racially-motivated-police-say/

As the old saying goes, one man's mentally ill lone wolf is another man's freedom fighter.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 24 2017 02:03 GMT
#143698
Meanwhile in New York. But this clearly isn't terrorism.


Can't be, because nobody screamed allah akbar.

Take it or leave it is just negotiating bluster


Except that's not what is reported he said. Take it or leave it is, apart from absolutely idiotic as a "negotiation tactic" without actually having negotiated anything yet, very different to "either you take this, or there will be no more effort to replace obamacare".

That's not "negotiating bluster", it's what a mentally unstable person screams at his partner in an abusive relationship.
On track to MA1950A.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 24 2017 02:20 GMT
#143699
I'm wondering here... if Trump is serious, and this health care bill gets voted down, would he be likely to just veto all future health care bills purely out of spite? It seems like something he might do
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 24 2017 02:24 GMT
#143700
On March 24 2017 11:20 Nevuk wrote:
I'm wondering here... if Trump is serious, and this health care bill gets voted down, would he be likely to just veto all future health care bills purely out of spite? It seems like something he might do


Come on, you act like that picture of a man acts childish all the time.
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