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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:34 Slaughter wrote: Seems like a silly move by Maddow. Gives Trump fuel for his dishonest media deflection technique and didn't really show anything. The media reporting on anything feeds that flame. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:35 Plansix wrote: The media reporting on anything feeds that flame. But now he has a more legitimate claim. His taxes taken and published in a questionably ethical move? Its a specific instance he can point to where he has legit reasons to call foul. Plus they showed nothing so he can use that as a way to slow the "show us your taxes" chants from the left. She gave him a lot of ammo. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:35 Plansix wrote: The media reporting on anything feeds that flame. Next thing you know he's going to say that woman that payed for a father's plane ticket for his daughter was fake. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:40 Slaughter wrote: But now he has a more legitimate claim. His taxes taken and published in a questionably ethical move? Its a specific instance he can point to where he has legit reasons to call foul. Plus they showed nothing so he can use that as a way to slow the "show us your taxes" chants from the left. She gave him a lot of ammo. Eh, I'm not into over analyzing a non-story that will fade away in the next 12 hours. At worst he can deflect a bit or whine. But Trump has the attention span of a gold fish. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:45 Plansix wrote: Eh, I'm not into over analyzing a non-story that will fade away in the next 12 hours. At worst he can deflect a bit or whine. But Trump has the attention span of a gold fish. Don't be dissing goldfish like that I also dislike comparing Trump to an orang-utan because it is offensive to librarians and the great apes everywhere. On March 15 2017 10:57 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: Kasparov called it earlier. albeit with a russian spin. I'm not a big fan of these announcement types. Just keep silent until you get enough and you know it's good. Haven't any of these people read transmetropolitan? Get something 100 percent airtight and pull it out at a press conference. This sounds like infowars-level conspiracy stuff and seems like a good example of Russophobic media frenzy. I'm quite interested in what Comey has to say about the potential on-going investigation. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:45 Plansix wrote: Eh, I'm not into over analyzing a non-story that will fade away in the next 12 hours. At worst he can deflect a bit or whine. But Trump has the attention span of a gold fish. https://twitter.com/samsanders/status/841839520437948418 I am absolutely sure that you're wrong there. There's a difference between "having an attention span like a gold fish", and being a narcissist. He will constantly point to this now, every time his taxes etc are brought up. The same way he constantly points back to how he was against the iraq war (regardless of truth or not). It's not bullshit he made up like the wiretap, where he wants to not talk about it. This "confirms" him, regardless of how stupid it is to point at sheets of papers of a decade ago and say "well there you have it, they illegally leaked it and proved nothing". He'll milk this. And the worst part is, it was so foreseeable, it's ridiculous. And it fuels into the "dishonest media" narrative, in fact in this case rightfully so. Trump fans need way less to have their narrative confirmed. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Turn MSNBC back on to see Rachel Maddow do gymnastics distancing herself from this story. Confirmed leaked from Russians. But seriously, the most trusted mouthpiece of corporate media on the center-left just baited her audience hard and a lot of them won't be happy about it. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 15 2017 12:00 GreenHorizons wrote: Confirmed leaked from Russians. But seriously, the most trusted mouthpiece of corporate media on the center-left just baited her audience hard and a lot of them won't be happy about it. I'm trying to figure out why anyone would think that it would be a good idea to run that story. You'd have to be a hardcore adherent to "any publicity is good publicity" to think that Maddow's show came out ahead on this. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On March 15 2017 12:00 GreenHorizons wrote: Confirmed leaked from Russians. But seriously, the most trusted mouthpiece of corporate media on the center-left just baited her audience hard and a lot of them won't be happy about it. Is there more to the tax returns? Was only a small (innocent) portion leaked? Or was it the whole thing that turned out to be a non-story? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 15 2017 12:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is there more to the tax returns? Was only a small (innocent) portion leaked? Or was it the whole thing that turned out to be a non-story? It was figuratively the tip of the Iceberg. More the table of contents of the return than anything. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 15 2017 12:24 On_Slaught wrote: Maddow def looks bad. Why hype it before you have anything good? Either way, while it isn't positive for the media it's not like it's fake news (which is the much more dangerous narrative than bias media) since the administration admitted it was real. The real loser is just her. Obvious the right will hate her regardless. Problem is she loses respect from people on the left as well. Considering the narrative is "media makes stuff up to make me look bad", i bet he'll call it fake news. Which it is, the tax returns are loaded. Everyone expects (some hope) that there's dirt in there. If you then go out with big trumpets and parade shouting "i got them" and there's nothing, yeah. It's kinda fake news. Even if you're generally a sane person and argue "well fake news is stuff like breitbart and infowars", being wrong has never stopped trump so far. He'll call it fake news, and his followers will swallow it, cementing the "fake news" bullshit in a large portion of your country. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 15 2017 11:34 Slaughter wrote: Seems like a silly move by Maddow. Gives Trump fuel for his dishonest media deflection technique and didn't really show anything. Yep. The way you dodge dishonest media claims is to keep things above board. Hammer him on healthcare, taxation, foreign policy, whatever. He deserves it. This kind of stuff feeds the opposition treats. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On March 15 2017 12:24 On_Slaught wrote: Maddow def looks bad. Why hype it before you have anything good? Either way, while it isn't positive for the media it's not like it's fake news (which is the much more dangerous narrative than bias media) since the administration admitted it was real. The real loser is just her. Obvious the right will hate her regardless. Problem is she loses respect from people on the left as well. Maddow = Wikileaks? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
No just a dumbass who seems to had nothing else to report on for that night. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
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