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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 05 2013 07:12 GMT
#13701
conservatives are rather off base about their own self assessment, given all the shit they been doing and thinking lately
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:16:55
December 05 2013 07:15 GMT
#13702
On December 05 2013 16:00 xDaunt wrote:
"Appalled" usually connotes and element of shock or surprise. I definitely was neither shocked nor appalled by your post. It was very typical of the baser elements on the left. I was merely expressing continued disappointment.


It's enjoyable to retrospectively watch vanilla news media establishment types be provocative. The enjoyment is doubled when you know the shit storm that followed (pun intended).

If you watch the actual segment you might find it quite tame. He clearly didn't mean it literally, and it's something that I can imagine a lot of people might say.

Did he know what he was doing when he did it? Was it planned or improvised?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 05 2013 07:24 GMT
#13703
I've found the perfect secret santa gift:


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The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 05 2013 07:30 GMT
#13704
Watched some cspan cuz I needed something in the background.
Ugh, republicans kept sniping at the law so much. It's really quite irritating and stupid. It'd be better if they'd work on agreeable solutions; but I know everyone (on all sides) likes to blather when they're on camera in hearings.
I wonder, how do we select for people who are good at doing their job instead of pandering to the camera.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 05 2013 07:49 GMT
#13705
On December 05 2013 16:12 oneofthem wrote:
conservatives are rather off base about their own self assessment, given all the shit they been doing and thinking lately

I would think the doing shit part is a separate stage from the self assessment part. Your post is all kinds of confusing. Are you talking about self assessing or mixed goals?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#13706
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?






What does it say about a person who voted for a VP candidate he thinks is retarded knowing full well the old man could die anytime and this retarded person could become president? That sounds like a pretty retarded move to me.
dude bro.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 05 2013 15:24 GMT
#13707
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?




you call sarah palin a retard...sounds like you're the one who's lost his common decency.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 17:21 GMT
#13708
On December 06 2013 00:24 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?




you call sarah palin a retard...sounds like you're the one who's lost his common decency.


Really, now. We're going to equate calling someone a retard to advocating that someone should take a shit in someone else's mouth? That sounds pretty retarded to me.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 17:36 GMT
#13709
On December 05 2013 21:57 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMryErno5kg




What does it say about a person who voted for a VP candidate he thinks is retarded knowing full well the old man could die anytime and this retarded person could become president? That sounds like a pretty retarded move to me.

Because I'd rather have a President Palin than a President Obama?
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 05 2013 17:41 GMT
#13710
On December 06 2013 02:36 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 21:57 heliusx wrote:
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMryErno5kg




What does it say about a person who voted for a VP candidate he thinks is retarded knowing full well the old man could die anytime and this retarded person could become president? That sounds like a pretty retarded move to me.

Because I'd rather have a President Palin than a President Obama?


You would prefer someone you regard as retarded over Obama. And you see nothing wrong with that? You're a prime example of what's wrong with politics in America.
dude bro.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 17:44 GMT
#13711
On December 06 2013 02:41 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 02:36 xDaunt wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:57 heliusx wrote:
On December 05 2013 15:22 xDaunt wrote:
What, do you guys really want to have a battle of the retards from both sides of the aisle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMryErno5kg




What does it say about a person who voted for a VP candidate he thinks is retarded knowing full well the old man could die anytime and this retarded person could become president? That sounds like a pretty retarded move to me.

Because I'd rather have a President Palin than a President Obama?


You would prefer someone you regard as retarded over Obama. And you see nothing wrong with that? You're a prime example of what's wrong with politics in America.

It begs the question of what I actually think of Obama....
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 05 2013 17:46 GMT
#13712
il bite. :D
what do you think of obama?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 17:48 GMT
#13713
On December 06 2013 02:46 PassiveAce wrote:
il bite. :D
what do you think of obama?

I'm on record stating that I'd rather have a plywood board be president than Obama.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 17:52:43
December 05 2013 17:50 GMT
#13714
nice doj
what do you think of obama? :D

im looking more for the answer to what and why. fyi im not gonna jump on you over your answer, I think your the most reasonable voice of the right wing of american politics on this website and id really like to know what you dont like about him if your willing to take teh time to write it all out.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 05 2013 17:54 GMT
#13715
On December 06 2013 02:50 PassiveAce wrote:
nice doj
what do you think of obama? :D

im looking more for the answer to what and why.


Clearly something horrific if he prefers a president with mental retardation. Much more likely though is he would prefer a GOP president over anything no matter who is actually better, as long as his guy wins. There's also the possibility of the whole black man becoming president stuff.
dude bro.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#13716
On December 06 2013 02:50 PassiveAce wrote:
nice doj
what do you think of obama? :D

im looking more for the answer to what and why. fyi im not gonna jump on you over your answer, I think your the most reasonable voice of the right wing of american politics on this website and id really like to know what you dont like about him if your willing to take teh time to write it all out.

I appreciate that, but I don't have the time to do it justice presently. Whatever I'd write right now would be somewhat half-assed and derail the thread so badly that it might break.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 17:59:58
December 05 2013 17:59 GMT
#13717
@heliusx I really dont get why xdaunt is so maligned here. I dont agree with him 90% of the time but hes articulate and always keeps a reasonable tone.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18450 Posts
December 05 2013 17:59 GMT
#13718
Do you at the very least believe that Obama is an intelligent man?

Do you believe Obama to be more corrupted than the norm in US politics?

In other words, is it purely ideological? Or do you have something against the man himself?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 05 2013 18:04 GMT
#13719
On December 06 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
Do you at the very least believe that Obama is an intelligent man?


He's definitely intelligent enough to do the job, but I think his intelligence is overstated.

Do you believe Obama to be more corrupted than the norm in US politics?


Yes, I do. Without going into any specific scandals, the mere fact that he came out of the Chicago political machine says all that you need to know on this subject.

In other words, is it purely ideological? Or do you have something against the man himself?


It's mostly ideological, though I strongly question Obama's judgment.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 05 2013 18:15 GMT
#13720
On December 06 2013 02:59 PassiveAce wrote:
@heliusx I really dont get why xdaunt is so maligned here. I dont agree with him 90% of the time but hes articulate and always keeps a reasonable tone.


I really just want to pry an answer out of him on this topic because I really don't get partisanship from either side. I definitely categorize TLs conservative posters wrong sometimes, it's hard to remember not all conservatives are like the ones I talk to in the south.
dude bro.
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