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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121961
As someone from Sweden this is mind boggling o.O.

So many politicians in Sweden that have had to resign from their jobs for far less than Trump says in an afternoon and he is voted to become the next president.

So what does the working class of US believe, that he actually gives 2 cents about coal workers and the likes and suddenly there will be plenty of jobs for them?

Is this anything but protesting against the establishment?

It's going to be fun watching US news from the comfort of my couch the next 4 years.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121962
On November 09 2016 16:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Pence is a disgusting person and it's disgusting to see him on screen right now


No need for so much salt. The will of the people is the will of the people.

Democracy simply doesn't work, this proves it Democrazy more like it


Democracy doesn't work for the losing side, standard.

Certainly brings democracy into question just a little bit, but I still think it's the best we've got.


You can hardly call the system the US has democracy. It's an abomination.


On November 09 2016 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:49 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:42 NukeD wrote:
Im loving every second of this. Especially the butthurt people on TL who were patronizing us this whole election cycle.

Trump, or his policy suggestions have not become any more coherent just because he won. Your weren't being patronized because you were losing. The USA just voted a polemic racist loudmouth into the most powerful position in the world. The world's is going to be a darker place for it.


You don't get it.
They only voted in Trump to see the looks on the butthurt left's faces.


The left probably didn't vote for Hillary though.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121963
--- Nuked ---
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121964
So, what does this mean for the Paris climate accords?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44439 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121965
On November 09 2016 16:56 Leporello wrote:
Rebuild the entire country's infrastructure?

Sounds great! Like another New Deal!

New Deal came with up to 90% marginal tax rates. So... how is Mexico going to pay for it?

ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 09 2016 07:57 GMT
#121966
On November 09 2016 16:52 Broetchenholer wrote:
It's very telling that there are so many new voices in the thread today telling everyone how "the liberals" did that or how they knew before or how this is good. It's so easy to commit to something now that you know that 50% of the USA did as well. Must feel good to finally have other people that think like you so that you can come out of the closet now.


Any Trump support in this thread got promptly shot down by Hillary zealots, it's like r/politics. Props to xDaunt for putting up the fight all the way, most other Trump fans just stayed out of this mess.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 09 2016 07:58 GMT
#121967
What if trump was acting dumb and shit all along??? He is actually an extremely extremely intelligent person and he knew making himself hated and dumb is the way to win presidency? And his sole goal of doing all these are to speed up the space exploring projects, space colonization, actually pushing the technology development (teleportation and flying car etc). The true pioneer for evolving humanity.

I am all for Trump. 2016 is the best year.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 09 2016 07:58 GMT
#121968
"This political stuff is nasty and tough", hehe
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
November 09 2016 07:58 GMT
#121969
On November 09 2016 16:57 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:52 Broetchenholer wrote:
It's very telling that there are so many new voices in the thread today telling everyone how "the liberals" did that or how they knew before or how this is good. It's so easy to commit to something now that you know that 50% of the USA did as well. Must feel good to finally have other people that think like you so that you can come out of the closet now.


Any Trump support in this thread got promptly shot down by Hillary zealots, it's like r/politics. Props to xDaunt for putting up the fight all the way, most other Trump fans just stayed out of this mess.

Good always wins in the end.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 07:58 GMT
#121970
On November 09 2016 16:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
lmao a lot of fake promises in this speech already

spinning his web of lies from day 1


the US will not be the highest growth country for sure
© Current year.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
November 09 2016 07:59 GMT
#121971
I'm sick of all this winning already.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 09 2016 07:59 GMT
#121972
On November 09 2016 16:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
trump's speech is interesting at all. but the kid to the left of him's expressions just takes the cake. lol, "wtf am i doing here, im so tired"

irresponsible dad doesn't put his kid to sleep at what, 2am
anyway he really neutralizes his dad's evilness
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2016 07:59 GMT
#121973
On November 09 2016 16:57 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:56 arb wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:54 sc14s wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:51 the bear jew wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:36 arb wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:35 mierin wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:20 DickMcFanny wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:14 Danglars wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.

First off, this was a major wakeup call, perhaps the last one you'll hear in a while, that
This campaign was always about the lesser of two evils.

For you particularly, but not for the rest of the country, it's also about
It is insanely easy for people to vote.
Trump was an easy choice for the white working class. The Democratic party had empty promises for years, the Republican party mostly the same, and here comes the outsider candidate promising hope and change. + Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2016 05:18 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This election in a nutshell.


[image loading]

Easy choice. Hate the choices, accept the choice.


But I promised myself to not go full ham on a naive take. Half the country is waking up to modern journalism and the people they've left behind while saying minorities have been left behind. The reality check is just hitting and they'll STILL claim Clinton was great but America wasn't ready to accept her. So go read the hillbilly elegy, polling on immigration & Syrian refugees & obamacare and grasp why Trump was the better choice of two bad choices.


Why doesn't the American working class need clean drinking water, air or food?

How can you possible vote for someone who wants to abolish the EPA?


I love how his supporters are under the impression that someone who started off with millions of free dollars of his dad's money can in any way sympathize with, understand, or even care about the "working class" and its struggles.

He rode the working class to victory at any rate.

and in all honesty if he got rid of obamacare and did nothing else for 4 years i wouldnt give a single fuck.
that would be enough for me and most people i know


What is so wrong with "Obamacare", it's essentially is a former Republican proposal written up by right wing think tanks that Republican Governors implemented, including candidate Mitt Romney in states.

yes, as written it wasn't perfect, lots of legislation especially major needs to be tinkered with. People act like it is the spawn of the devil. What is objectively and factually so bad about it? Besides the fact it was passed by President Obama.

I am about to get fucked hard if obamacare is repealed unfortunately. As a student w/ full time hourly job just paying for healthcare for the family sucks already, lol.

I dislike highly having to give up a lot of my check to healthcare i dont want or need

that's whats wrong with it
and a fine for not having health care should not be a fucking thing.
i already live in one of the highest taxed fucking states in the US i don't want anymore of this ass rape


Americans whining about tax is so funny lol


Well, you are living in one of the most capitalist countries on earth yourself, so you shouldn't make fun of them.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 09 2016 07:59 GMT
#121974
On November 09 2016 16:57 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To LGBT Americans, sorry you have to deal with Pence and the Republican party. It's a very unfortunate thing you're about to have to go through

Is it?

Pence has advocated for removal of gay rights, like minority protection and marriage, I fear for what they try to do
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 09 2016 07:59 GMT
#121975
On November 09 2016 16:57 papaz wrote:
As someone from Sweden this is mind boggling o.O.

So many politicians in Sweden that have had to resign from their jobs for far less than Trump says in an afternoon and he is voted to become the next president.

So what does the working class of US believe, that he actually gives 2 cents about coal workers and the likes and suddenly there will be plenty of jobs for them?

Is this anything but protesting against the establishment?

It's going to be fun watching US news from the comfort of my couch the next 4 years.


It just shows that you have freedom of speech in the US but not in Sweden. Go SD and Nya Tider.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
November 09 2016 08:00 GMT
#121976
On November 09 2016 16:57 papaz wrote:
As someone from Sweden this is mind boggling o.O.

So many politicians in Sweden that have had to resign from their jobs for far less than Trump says in an afternoon and he is voted to become the next president.

So what does the working class of US believe, that he actually gives 2 cents about coal workers and the likes and suddenly there will be plenty of jobs for them?

Is this anything but protesting against the establishment?

It's going to be fun watching US news from the comfort of my couch the next 4 years.


I'm far from a Trump supporter, but in their words: you are a nation of cucks, of course you wouldn't get it.

You literally have politicians proposing that it should be a criminal offence to criticise feminism.

User was warned for this post
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13431 Posts
November 09 2016 08:00 GMT
#121977
On November 09 2016 16:57 acker wrote:
So, what does this mean for the Paris climate accords?


Climate change is a chinese hoax. ofc its not gonna have the US in it.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 09 2016 08:00 GMT
#121978
Trump wonnered. I can't believe it. I am actually laughing my ass off. North Americans are unbelievable funny.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
November 09 2016 08:00 GMT
#121979
On November 09 2016 16:57 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:52 Broetchenholer wrote:
It's very telling that there are so many new voices in the thread today telling everyone how "the liberals" did that or how they knew before or how this is good. It's so easy to commit to something now that you know that 50% of the USA did as well. Must feel good to finally have other people that think like you so that you can come out of the closet now.


Any Trump support in this thread got promptly shot down by Hillary zealots, it's like r/politics. Props to xDaunt for putting up the fight all the way, most other Trump fans just stayed out of this mess.

I second this. Also, xDaunt good work for putting up with those racists and bigots in this thread.

User was warned for this post
sorry for dem one liners
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
November 09 2016 08:01 GMT
#121980
On November 09 2016 16:58 BurningSera wrote:
What if trump was acting dumb and shit all along??? He is actually an extremely extremely intelligent person and he knew making himself hated and dumb is the way to win presidency? And his sole goal of doing all these are to speed up the space exploring projects, space colonization, actually pushing the technology development (teleportation and flying car etc). The true pioneer for evolving humanity.

I am all for Trump. 2016 is the best year.

So you ignored everything Trump actually said and did, and projected onto him all of your desires, despite having absolutely no evidence for it. I think you're in for a rough 4 years.
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