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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
November 09 2016 07:48 GMT
#121921
On November 09 2016 16:46 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:44 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:43 ACrow wrote:
So, now that the first major outlet called it for Trump and it is pretty clear that nothing will spare us this disaster: congratulation, Trumpism takes over. You did it. You elected an utter racist idiot without any policy proposals to speak of to the presidency. You who voted for him are responsible for what is to come.

I can't believe this, I defended the US against anti-americanism ever since having lived there, even through the Bush years, and I must admit: I was wrong. I can't believe the amount of stupidity in this country. Maybe it is for the best, once Trump is done with the US and it is not the sole remaining super power anymore, we might all be better off. Have a good night.


How well did liberal immigration policies work for your own country?

Unknown so far, but not as bad as you think for sure.


The thousands of rape victims or literally every single person who worked in a refugee shelter would disagree. So would the tax-payers.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
November 09 2016 07:48 GMT
#121922
The smuggest face Trump will ever make
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 07:49 GMT
#121923
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18257 Posts
November 09 2016 07:49 GMT
#121924
On November 09 2016 16:42 NukeD wrote:
Im loving every second of this. Especially the butthurt people on TL who were patronizing us this whole election cycle.

Trump, or his policy suggestions have not become any more coherent just because he won. Your weren't being patronized because you were losing. The USA just voted a polemic racist loudmouth into the most powerful position in the world. The world's is going to be a darker place for it.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 07:49 GMT
#121925
Trump can still win Minnesota as well.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43860 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121926
On November 09 2016 16:47 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:44 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:43 ACrow wrote:
So, now that the first major outlet called it for Trump and it is pretty clear that nothing will spare us this disaster: congratulation, Trumpism takes over. You did it. You elected an utter racist idiot without any policy proposals to speak of to the presidency. You who voted for him are responsible for what is to come.

I can't believe this, I defended the US against anti-americanism ever since having lived there, even through the Bush years, and I must admit: I was wrong. I can't believe the amount of stupidity in this country. Maybe it is for the best, once Trump is done with the US and it is not the sole remaining super power anymore, we might all be better off. Have a good night.


How well did liberal immigration policies work for your own country?


I can't wait for the German lefts butthurt once the right wing movements take Europe as well.

This actually already happened once before. It didn't go well. But it did end up in them building a wall so there's that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121927
CBC finally changed it to 256 to 218 for Trump lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121928
Alright Trump, here's your chance. A speech of unity please.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121929
On November 09 2016 16:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Pence is a disgusting person and it's disgusting to see him on screen right now


No need for so much salt. The will of the people is the will of the people.

Democracy simply doesn't work, this proves it Democrazy more like it


Democracy doesn't work for the losing side, standard.

Certainly brings democracy into question just a little bit, but I still think it's the best we've got.

Sure i can agree with that.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121930
On November 09 2016 16:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Pence is a disgusting person and it's disgusting to see him on screen right now


No need for so much salt. The will of the people is the will of the people.

I don't believe that electing a man who believes in homosexual conversion therapy, a completely disproved and disgusting practice, is the will of the people
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:56:38
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121931
On November 09 2016 16:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Pence is a disgusting person and it's disgusting to see him on screen right now


No need for so much salt. The will of the people is the will of the people.

No, Pence is a disgusting person. Trump I can handle as just being merely inexperienced and irrational, but Pence, along with other Trump surrogates like Christie, Guiliani, Sessions, and Gingrich represent the worst of the modern Republican party. They just happened to have the political foresight to jump ship early enough to reap the benefits of the Trump train, but that doesn't make them any better for it.

These are the the people that turned my opinion from "apathetic" to "anti-Trump" in the first place.

"The people" voted for Trump. They probably weren't paying much attention to all the shitty baggage that comes with him into the White House.
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121932
This is sort of what I feared would happen from when the democratic party shunned Sanders and fractured itself so badly.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 07:50 GMT
#121933
On November 09 2016 16:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Alright Trump, here's your chance. A speech of unity please.

congrats "us" lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 07:51 GMT
#121934
On November 09 2016 16:47 acker wrote:
Scott Adams was right. Nate Silver was close behind.

Followed very, very far by Sam Wang PhD.

Some academics I was chatting with say that this election was a big blow against Bayesianism. I happen to think they're wrong there. Nate was closer than anyone else and closer than you could expect when everyone predicted otherwise.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 09 2016 07:51 GMT
#121935
On November 09 2016 16:36 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:35 mierin wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:20 DickMcFanny wrote:
On November 09 2016 16:14 Danglars wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.

First off, this was a major wakeup call, perhaps the last one you'll hear in a while, that
This campaign was always about the lesser of two evils.

For you particularly, but not for the rest of the country, it's also about
It is insanely easy for people to vote.
Trump was an easy choice for the white working class. The Democratic party had empty promises for years, the Republican party mostly the same, and here comes the outsider candidate promising hope and change. + Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2016 05:18 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This election in a nutshell.


[image loading]

Easy choice. Hate the choices, accept the choice.


But I promised myself to not go full ham on a naive take. Half the country is waking up to modern journalism and the people they've left behind while saying minorities have been left behind. The reality check is just hitting and they'll STILL claim Clinton was great but America wasn't ready to accept her. So go read the hillbilly elegy, polling on immigration & Syrian refugees & obamacare and grasp why Trump was the better choice of two bad choices.


Why doesn't the American working class need clean drinking water, air or food?

How can you possible vote for someone who wants to abolish the EPA?


I love how his supporters are under the impression that someone who started off with millions of free dollars of his dad's money can in any way sympathize with, understand, or even care about the "working class" and its struggles.

He rode the working class to victory at any rate.

and in all honesty if he got rid of obamacare and did nothing else for 4 years i wouldnt give a single fuck.
that would be enough for me and most people i know


What is so wrong with "Obamacare", it's essentially is a former Republican proposal written up by right wing think tanks that Republican Governors implemented, including candidate Mitt Romney in states.

yes, as written it wasn't perfect, lots of legislation especially major needs to be tinkered with. People act like it is the spawn of the devil. What is objectively and factually so bad about it? Besides the fact it was passed by President Obama.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9807 Posts
November 09 2016 07:52 GMT
#121936
On November 09 2016 16:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 16:42 NukeD wrote:
Im loving every second of this. Especially the butthurt people on TL who were patronizing us this whole election cycle.

Trump, or his policy suggestions have not become any more coherent just because he won. Your weren't being patronized because you were losing. The USA just voted a polemic racist loudmouth into the most powerful position in the world. The world's is going to be a darker place for it.


You don't get it.
They only voted in Trump to see the looks on the butthurt left's faces.


User was warned for this post
RIP Meatloaf <3
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
November 09 2016 07:52 GMT
#121937
It's very telling that there are so many new voices in the thread today telling everyone how "the liberals" did that or how they knew before or how this is good. It's so easy to commit to something now that you know that 50% of the USA did as well. Must feel good to finally have other people that think like you so that you can come out of the closet now.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 07:52 GMT
#121938
This speech is actually very good from Trump.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 07:52 GMT
#121939
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 09 2016 07:52 GMT
#121940
I can't even right now.

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