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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
On November 06 2016 22:48 Kamisamanachi wrote: I am an outsider to this election and first time posting here. I wanted to ask , how much effect will Indian American voters have on this election? Asking out of curiosity . Not particularly significant, they''re 1% of the population, most of which in solid blue states | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4461 Posts
Newest batch shows that Chelsea Clinton paid for her wedding with funds from the Clinton Foundation.. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52046 From:doug@presidentclinton.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com CC: terry@tdmca.com, cheryl.mills@gmail.com Date: 2012-01-04 21:45 Subject: Re: I learned from the best The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents.... I hope that you will speak to her and end this Once we go down this road.... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:12 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Just so much amazing stuff coming out via wikileaks. Newest batch shows that Chelsea Clinton paid for her wedding with funds from the Clinton Foundation.. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52046 You couldn't even bother to copy and paste the while thing, could you? The email isn't about that. It is about the WSJ receiving what they believe to be false claims that the Clintons used the funds for the wedding. And they are discussing setting the record straight. The not smart part is referencing people talking about the investigation. From:doug@presidentclinton.com artTo: john.podesta@gmail.com CC: terry@tdmca.com, cheryl.mills@gmail.com Date: 2012-01-04 21:45 Subject: Re: I learned from the best The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents.... I hope that you will speak to her and end this Once we go down this road.... ----- Original Message ----- From: John Podesta [mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 05:00 PM To: Doug Band Cc: terry@tdmca.com <terry@tdmca.com>; cheryl.mills@gmail.com <cheryl.mills@gmail.com> Subject: Re: You are perfecting your skills for understatement. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Doug Band <doug@presidentclinton.com> wrote: > I just received a call from a close friend of wjcs who said that cvc told one of the bush 43 kids that she is conducting an internal investigation of money within the foundation from cgi to the foundation > The bush kid then told someone else who then told an operative within the republican party > > I have heard more and more chatter of cvc and bari talking about lots of what is going on internally to people > > Not sm | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8220 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:23 Plansix wrote: You couldn't even bother to copy and paste the while thing, could you? The email isn't about that. It is about the WSJ receiving what they believe to be false claims that the Clintons used the funds for the wedding. And they are discussing setting the record straight. The not smart part is referencing people talking about the investigation. art That's glorious User was warned for this post | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46669 Posts
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/06/trump-hustled-offstage-in-nevada-after-security-scare-returns-shortly-thereafter.html | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8220 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:24 kongoline wrote: from the front page of reddit, pretty good summary of Podesta emails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fat63bqvG8 Telesur, now that's one reliable source of investigation journalism. User was warned for this post | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:24 kongoline wrote: from the front page of reddit, pretty good summary of Podesta emails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fat63bqvG8 Well, clicking that was a mistake. I should have figured that by 'front page of reddit' you meant the_donald. That's probably the most unsubtle propaganda video I've seen in months. User was warned for this post | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:23 Plansix wrote: You couldn't even bother to copy and paste the while thing, could you? The email isn't about that. It is about the WSJ receiving what they believe to be false claims that the Clintons used the funds for the wedding. And they are discussing setting the record straight. The not smart part is referencing people talking about the investigation. art I thought the not smart was referencing "cvc and bari" - whom I assume is Chelsea Victoria Clinton and Bari Lurie. EDIT: And from what I gather they are talking about the internal workings of the foundation and not the investigation. But then again, with so little context it's rather worthless to guess. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:34 Ghostcom wrote: I thought the not smart was referencing "cvc and bari" - whom I assume is Chelsea Victoria Clinton and Bari Lurie. EDIT: And from what I gather they are talking about the internal workings of the foundation and not the investigation. But then again, with so little context it's rather worthless to guess. It is one of my biggest complaints about these leaked emails. That wikileaks is editing them down to remove a lot of the context or follow up. It is hard to even talk about them since people can see exactly what they want. And that part is intentional by wikileaks. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:43 Ghostcom wrote: Meh I think it has more to do with people working closely together writing short emails because the receiving part knows whats up. You wouldn't understand what I was talking with my mentor about if you merely read my emails. There are legitimate criticisms of Wikileaks, but you can hardly fault them for this. Sure but wikileaks takes the extra step of making the emails look even shittier. User was warned for this post | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Of course, if people believed journalists weren't all in on some sinister conspiracy, this would be immediately obvious in an article discussing the emails. But alas, we live in a world where thinking about something for more than half a second is forbidden if it changes your preconceived viewpoint. At least they've cried wolf so much that nobody outside their bubble gives a shit anymore. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
there is a significant portion of the far left that think bringing ruin onto america will lead to good things. it will not, and it is highly irresponsible in ignoring the fiduciary duty of government for all the people. political power is not just power, it is a set of responsibility and a relation of trust. lying to the american people while plotting their destruction is not just, no matter how evil you conceive of corporate america or the upper middle class. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On November 07 2016 00:21 oneofthem wrote: wikileaks is obviously pushing a conspiratorial worldview. they are not serious about the truth just agitprop. there is a significant portion of the far left that think bringing ruin onto america will lead to good things. it will not, and it is highly irresponsible in ignoring the fiduciary duty of government for all the people. political power is not just power, it is a set of responsibility and a relation of trust. lying to the american people while plotting their destruction is not just, no matter how evil you conceive of corporate america or the upper middle class. Fiduciary ruin? Are you making the case that the far left plots the end of corporate power and the upper middle class and moreover counts it as just? I'm still a little confused. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
It's something when you can outright lie about both how another person treated a protester and then lie about how a protester at your own event was actually an assassin and no one cares, and have 0 repercussions because fuck holding humans to standards. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 07 2016 00:34 Danglars wrote: Fiduciary ruin? Are you making the case that the far left plots the end of corporate power and the upper middle class and moreover counts it as just? I'm still a little confused. yea. they see trump as bringing wealth destruction, inflation and all that. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
On November 06 2016 23:12 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Just so much amazing stuff coming out via wikileaks. Newest batch shows that Chelsea Clinton paid for her wedding with funds from the Clinton Foundation.. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52046 It is you who are amazing. Its like you want to be deceived. User was warned for this post | ||
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