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On October 25 2016 04:49 LegalLord wrote: You know, we all thought that debate #3 was brutally and utterly one-sided. The polls seem to suggest that their net effect was pretty much nil. Maybe Trump hit his floor already.
Then again, we all basically said the election would be decided by debate #1, and it seems that that is pretty much the case. After the first debate Trump never really recovered.
He's no longer really able to debase his own brand further, at this point all that remains is to see how much damage he can do to the Republican brand as a whole.
I don't remember us all thinking debate #3 was brutal and one-sided. my recollection is that I thought it wouldn't change the polls from where they were.
The story of Trumps run will be that he defeated himself by making no attempt to address his weaknesses. He created all of his own issues with only a little push from the Hillary camp. The “Miss Housekeeping” quote was just good opposition research that Trump and his campaign should have been ready for. But recent reports have said that Trump would not allow the RNC and other to conduct internal opposition research on him.
Project Veritas isn't a real thing. You might as well quote the Planned Parenthood selling baby parts video at this point.
Its amazing that people keep spitting O'Keefe videos like its a thing even after we spend a dozen pages explaining how he is a terrible human has been proven in a court of law as someone who exaggerates and distorts the truth...
I dont know if its willful ignorance or lack of researching something that corroborates confirmation bias.
NPR covered that again today and noted that the people in those videos are pretty far removed from the Clinton camp as well. And that the unedited videos have not been released by project “truth”.
I don't think it was a case of trump never really recovering as much as trump ever really making the difference he needed to to win. There was probably a time after hillaries "deplorables" Where He could have capatalized on that momentum and embraced the r/The_donald populist spirit to energize his base perpetually, allowing "lone wolf supporters" take the blame for anything over the line.
The tapes where Trump joked about sexual assault against wives was the dagger in the heart that he can't recover from. I don't think much could have made a difference past Hillary actually getting charged with a crime for something.
logo -> I reviewed the tax plan and skimmed parts of the book, I recommend not voting for him. He has some useable ideas, but his implementation ability and understanding of the politics is sketchy. I also saw a fair bit of stuff in the book that's just wrong, or at least enough inaccurate for me to have a distaste.
Trump was already diving in the polls after the first debate. The tape just assured there was almost no chance he could recover or really change women’s growing opinion that he was the embodiment of every sexist asshole dude they worked with.
@Rebs: I am convinced it is same theory as the big lie. Say something enough, some people will start believing it.
Project Veritas isn't a real thing. You might as well quote the Planned Parenthood selling baby parts video at this point.
Its amazing that people keep spitting O'Keefe videos like its a thing even after we spend a dozen pages explaining how he is a terrible human has been proven in a court of law as someone who exaggerates and distorts the truth...
I dont know if its willful ignorance or lack of researching something that corroborates confirmation bias.
Project Veritas isn't a real thing. You might as well quote the Planned Parenthood selling baby parts video at this point.
Its amazing that people keep spitting O'Keefe videos like its a thing even after we spend a dozen pages explaining how he is a terrible human has been proven in a court of law as someone who exaggerates and distorts the truth...
I dont know if its willful ignorance or lack of researching something that corroborates confirmation bias.
CNN is talking about it , maybe it's a thing.
Talking about O'Keefe videos or talking about the issue the O'Keefe videos present? There's a difference.
I think you underestimate the effect the tape had on men especially evangelical men or the male relatives of people who've experienced sexual assult. Evan mcmullan would not be discussed as a threat to take utah if the mormans weren't seriously considering a revolt after those tapes.
Project Veritas isn't a real thing. You might as well quote the Planned Parenthood selling baby parts video at this point.
Its amazing that people keep spitting O'Keefe videos like its a thing even after we spend a dozen pages explaining how he is a terrible human has been proven in a court of law as someone who exaggerates and distorts the truth...
I dont know if its willful ignorance or lack of researching something that corroborates confirmation bias.
CNN is talking about it , maybe it's a thing.
Talking about O'Keefe videos or talking about the issue the O'Keefe videos present? There's a difference.
All the news networks cover O’Keefe’s releases, but they don’t claim they are accurate. All the reports on these videos has said the exact things we have said in this thread: The videos are edited, O’Keefe is known for releasing deceptively edited videos and often does not release the full unedited video. And he isn’t a reporter. His and his company are paid by conservative groups to create these videos.
Edit: Can we stop with the low quality posts that are mostly youtube videos?
Coal production in the United States has declined enormously in recent years due to the simple reason that the coal-fired power industry is producing less of the country’s electricity than ever.
As recently as 10 years ago, coal-fired power plants provided half of America’s power needs. Today that number is closer to 30 percent — and falling. Coal is not likely to fade entirely from the scene any time soon, but informed analysts see its share of the U.S. energy mix dropping to less than 20 percent in the not distant future.
This is largely a market phenomenon driven by cheap natural gas and low-cost renewable wind and solar, which, because they are so inexpensive, have become go-to fuels for power generation. Coal does not have a regulation problem, as the industry claims. Instead, it has a growing market problem, as other technologies are increasingly able to produce electricity at lower cost. And that trend is unlikely to end.
True, there has been a recent uptick in coal prices. But there is no evidence that this represents a lasting long-term trend. The fundamentals behind the coal industry’s decline haven’t changed. Natural gas is still cheap. Renewables — wind in particular and now the fast-emerging solar industry — are taking business away from coal-fired generation.
Our organization just published a research paper that details these trends in Texas, one of the single biggest electricity markets in the country, where a growing number of major coal-fired power plants are at risk of closure because they can no longer compete.
Our research shows that many coal-fired power plants in Texas no longer act as “baseload plants,” and are instead limited to operations during peak-load periods. Although coal-fired plants generated 39 percent of the electricity on the Electric Reliability Council of Texas grid in Texas in early 2015, by May 2016 they provided only 24.8 percent.
Markets aside, public health and environmental regulations, including the Environmental Protection Agency’s regional haze rule, are forcing coal-fired power plant owners to decide whether to make expensive investments in their aging coal fleets. Our analysis suggests that such investments wouldn’t make much sense.
Indeed, a perfect storm of market, technological and regulatory developments are undermining the financial viability of many coal-fired generators across the country. Cheap natural gas and low energy prices in general are likely to persist. Wind-driven electricity will take a larger chunk out of the coal-fired industry, as will solar. Peak demand has been relatively flat, in part because of gains in energy efficiency, and that boils down to more competition for the same amount of the pie.
Solar and wind installation costs have declined dramatically in recent years. For example, wind prices have fallen to less than $30 per megawatt-hour from more than $60 in 2009. Because they have no fuel costs — the sun and wind are free — grid operators now transmit power from utility-scale solar and wind facilities ahead of coal-fired power. Solar generation acts to keep energy market prices low during periods of peak demand. Wind generation puts pressure on market prices in both peak and off-peak hours. The collective effect of solar and wind is making coal-fired electricity less and less financially viable.
Data snapshots drive home the growing impact of renewables. Wind provided 32 percent of the electricity produced from this past October through April in the northern Midwest. Just over 48 percent of the load on the ERCOT grid came from wind on March 23 — a remarkable single-day milestone that inevitably will be eclipsed.
The decline of coal is long term and irreversible, and it is happening now. Data published this month by S&P Global Market Intelligence shows a 26 percent decline in U.S. coal production in the first six months of this year. A short-term jump in coal price will not spell an industry comeback from the industry’s long-term decline.
As coal companies emerge from bankruptcy, they face a tough row to hoe and, judging from market and policy trends, it will not get any easier.
Project Veritas isn't a real thing. You might as well quote the Planned Parenthood selling baby parts video at this point.
Its amazing that people keep spitting O'Keefe videos like its a thing even after we spend a dozen pages explaining how he is a terrible human has been proven in a court of law as someone who exaggerates and distorts the truth...
I dont know if its willful ignorance or lack of researching something that corroborates confirmation bias.
CNN is talking about it , maybe it's a thing.
Talking about O'Keefe videos or talking about the issue the O'Keefe videos present? There's a difference.
Does you or anyone else have a written down version of O'Keefe's actual allegations? What is the charge here? As far as I can gather is looks like some local Dems would send Dem voters into Trump rallies with pro-abortion shirts on and this would trigger the Trumpkins.
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