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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2016 04:27 GMT
#114121
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 20 2016 04:28 GMT
#114122
On October 20 2016 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


That guy clearly didn't see the Mythbuster's episode where they polished a turd.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 20 2016 04:37 GMT
#114123
Also lost in this debate that Trump made the admission he doesn't pay taxes.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 04:42:06
October 20 2016 04:38 GMT
#114124
They really need to fix those loopholes that allow people who can afford to pay taxes to avoid paying them... Why would it be so difficult to do that?

Edit: Nevermind, see the post two below me.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
October 20 2016 04:39 GMT
#114125
He's basically admitted it for a long time. His response is always "well you should have changed that law".
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 20 2016 04:40 GMT
#114126
On October 20 2016 13:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also lost in this debate that Trump made the admission he doesn't pay taxes.

that has been talked to death here man
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JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
October 20 2016 04:40 GMT
#114127
On October 20 2016 13:39 DannyJ wrote:
He's basically admitted it for a long time. His response is always "well you should have changed that law".


Fun fact: as Senator, HRC voted YES on the bill to close that very loophole.

The tax loophole was controversial, but it was taken advantage of by tax advisers at the time. Eventually, the Supreme Court ruled in Gitlitz v. Commissioner that the law was clear, even if it may have been written incorrectly. It was up to Congress to fix the law. In 2002 it closed the loophole. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) was among those voting to close it.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/how-trump-wa-sable-to-suffer-nearly-1-billion-in-losses-and-stay-rich
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 20 2016 04:42 GMT
#114128
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 20 2016 04:44 GMT
#114129
On October 20 2016 13:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/788959475377983488


You know what, we should call.... nevermind.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 04:47:29
October 20 2016 04:47 GMT
#114130
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/donald-trump-appears-to-test-out-tv-venture-230023

Did Trump just launch Trump TV?

After Wednesday night’s third and final presidential debate, on cable and network television, Trump surrogates rushed to spin Trump’s assertion that he would not accept the results of the November election, and some cable television post-debate panels descended into screaming matches.

But on Donald Trump’s Facebook page, which had already livestreamed a pre-debate show, followed by the debate itself for a little fewer than 200,000 people, and a post-debate program full of panels, pre-recorded bits and complete with anchors and all the other trappings of a news program, an alternate reality was being established.

Proclaiming itself an antidote to the “mainstream media” which Trump has said is guilty of tipping the scales of this election against Trump and the American people and in favor of a Clintonocracy, the nearly three hours of programming on Facebook cycled through Trump surrogates, family members and former Apprentice members, all of whom praised Trump endlessly.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 20 2016 04:47 GMT
#114131
On October 20 2016 13:38 a_flayer wrote:
They really need to fix those loopholes that allow people who can afford to pay taxes to avoid paying them... Why would it be so difficult to do that?

Edit: Nevermind, see the post two below me.

politicians have rich friends who dont want that to happen?
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4376 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 04:53:13
October 20 2016 04:49 GMT
#114132
On October 20 2016 13:13 mahrgell wrote:

c) it is almost impossible for him to win this election at this point

Gallup had Carter up 8 points on Reagan just over one week before the vote.Low turnout killed Carter, I'm seeing the same lack of enthusiasm from dems regarding Clinton now.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/10/will-this-election-day-be-repeat-of-1980/

Good to see the wikileaks stuff get an airing on the MSM.Hillary Clinton calling for open borders getting out to tens of millions of viewers is big.

Trump is going to romp it in, gotta laugh at the cockiness from the Clinton cohort around here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43448 Posts
October 20 2016 04:59 GMT
#114133
On October 20 2016 12:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Really spurring my curiosity: How will this election affect Trump's business. Anyway.

Yeah, looks like we Trump guys wont win, but at least getting 45% will hopefully send a strong message that there's plenty of people unhappy with the current direction... Especially when that 45% people will have voted for almost suicide for their country to show their unhappiness.

That should be a strong message that things are not okay.

Trump has always claimed that a large part of the 10b he claims he's worth is the value of his Trump brand, rather than any tangible asset. So I'd guess it's cost him a lot.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2016 04:59 GMT
#114134
On October 20 2016 13:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
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On October 20 2016 13:13 mahrgell wrote:

c) it is almost impossible for him to win this election at this point

Gallup had Carter up 8 points on Reagan just over one week before the vote.Low turnout killed Carter, I'm seeing the same lack of enthusiasm from dems regarding Clinton now.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/10/will-this-election-day-be-repeat-of-1980/

Good to see the wikileaks stuff get an airing on the MSM.Hillary Clinton calling for open borders getting out to tens of millions of viewers is big.

Trump is going to romp it in, gotta laugh at the cockiness from the Clinton cohort around here.

I saw recently that Trump's enthusiasm numbers in polls are now lower than Clinton's
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 20 2016 05:00 GMT
#114135
On October 20 2016 13:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 13:13 mahrgell wrote:

c) it is almost impossible for him to win this election at this point

Gallup had Carter up 8 points on Reagan just over one week before the vote.Low turnout killed Carter, I'm seeing the same lack of enthusiasm from dems regarding Clinton now.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/10/will-this-election-day-be-repeat-of-1980/

Good to see the wikileaks stuff get an airing on the MSM.Hillary Clinton calling for open borders getting out to tens of millions of viewers is big.

Trump is going to romp it in, gotta laugh at the cockiness from the Clinton cohort around here.

top thread from the_donald is how great of a moderator chris wallace is
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43448 Posts
October 20 2016 05:02 GMT
#114136
On October 20 2016 12:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:50 Probe1 wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:27 Dan HH wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Really spurring my curiosity: How will this election affect Trump's business. Anyway.

Yeah, looks like we Trump guys wont win, but at least getting 45% will hopefully send a strong message that there's plenty of people unhappy with the current direction... Especially when that 45% people will have voted for almost suicide for their country to show their unhappiness.

That should be a strong message that things are not okay.

Literally anyone would get 40% or more running for either party


Sounds like a pretty shitty democracy, no?

Interesting that's not being addressed, so either way, the losers imo will still be able to come out as the victims in all of this, and benefit from it.

That is why this election is astonishing. Trump is having difficulty holding on to votes he could, and should, have gotten just by showing up.


Please take it easy.

He's behind by 6.5%~, Reagan won by 18%. Gap is smaller now than in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, and 2008 (I started from 1980).


This is bad logic and you should feel bad.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-there-any-precedent-for-a-trump-comeback/

They actually examined the exact claim you're trying to make. Their conclusion, no.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43448 Posts
October 20 2016 05:06 GMT
#114137
On October 20 2016 13:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Trump is going to romp it in, gotta laugh at the cockiness from the Clinton cohort around here.

At what point are you going to stop this narrative? Are you waiting for a fourth debate? I'm serious.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 20 2016 05:08 GMT
#114138


I thought it was a parody account but i's real
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
October 20 2016 05:08 GMT
#114139
Just think if Trump had toned it down just a little after the primaries...
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43448 Posts
October 20 2016 05:10 GMT
#114140
On October 20 2016 14:08 a_flayer wrote:
Just think if Trump had toned it down just a little after the primaries...

I hear xDaunt is still waiting for the pivot.
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