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This response to Trump's tweet about animals:
EDIT: Also Trump could have easily donated enough to cover repairs. Easy political capital. At the rate he's going though, he'll probably end up in a fight with the NC GOP by the end of the week.
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The best part about that tweet is that he didn’t even wait for law enforcement to tell him anything. He just provided the hottest take he could, forget accuracy or that he might be wrong, he goes with his feelings. That is leadership right there, really leading by example.
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For you legal people out there, a bunch of originalist lawyers and law-professors just put out a statement opposing Trump.
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On October 17 2016 20:00 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 19:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Oliver isn't a patch on Colbert. Oliver goes much deeper into the issues he talks about that Colbert. Also, i personally find Colbert's eternally self satisfied attitude a bit annoying. He has balls of steel and is a good comedian but i much prefer Oliver self depreciating style (maybe 6 years in London helped to appreciate English humour).
I loved the old colbert report the most. Since colbert is now on the late show its not quite the same anymore. He became much more tame in my opinion.
I really like John Oliver though because his topics are something different. Most of the time he speaks about things that no one else ever mentions or talks about. I respect that.
But I'd say he is definitely not unbiased. There is very obvious bias in his show but I dont mind. Bias is not a bad thing as long as you know its there and you dont believe everything unconditionally.
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So Trump racked up a 9th accuser yesterday. "He can’t claim we’re all liars", she said. She decided to come forward after hearing Trump deny it.
Keep em comin
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As Democrats aim to capitalize on this year’s Republican turmoil and start building back their own decimated bench, former Attorney General Eric Holder will chair a new umbrella group focused on redistricting reform—with the aim of taking on the gerrymandering that’s left the party behind in statehouses and made winning a House majority far more difficult.
The new group, called the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, was developed in close consultation with the White House. President Barack Obama himself has now identified the group—which will coordinate campaign strategy, direct fundraising, organize ballot initiatives and put together legal challenges to state redistricting maps—as the main focus of his political activity once he leaves office.
Politico
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The American electorate has turned deeply skeptical about the integrity of the nation's election apparatus, with 41 percent of voters saying November's election could be "stolen" from Donald Trump due to widespread voter fraud.
The new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll -- conducted among 1,999 registered voters Oct. 13 through Oct. 15 -- shows that Trump’s repeated warnings about a “rigged” election are having effect: 73 percent of Republicans think the election could be swiped from him. Just 17 percent of Democrats agree with the prospect of massive fraud at the ballot box.
The public sentiment is beginning to reflect Trump's campaign message. Over the last week, the GOP nominee has intensified his criticism of the U.S. electoral system, much to the chagrin of elected Republicans, who think it threatens the peaceful transfer of power. Trump calls the process rigged, and has said the media is colluding with Hillary Clinton to throw the presidential race in her favor.
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“The results show that voters are increasingly losing confidence that votes around the country will be counted accurately on Election Day," said Kyle Dropp, cofounder and chief research officer at Morning Consult. "The sentiment especially rings true among Trump's supporters, with half expressing concern about a 'rigged election.'"
But the balloting is already well underway in many of the nearly three dozen states that allow early voting. Forty-three percent of voters say they will vote early, either by absentee or in person.
With 22 days until Election Day, nearly every credible national survey shows Clinton leading Trump by a margin ranging from five to 11 points. Overall, just 33 percent of the public believes the polls are biased in favor of Clinton. But a stunning 60 percent of Republicans say they are biased against Trump.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-41-percent-of-voters-say-the-election-could-be-stolen-from-trump-229871
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On October 17 2016 23:16 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +The new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll -- conducted among 1,999 registered voters Oct. 13 through Oct. 15 -- shows that Trump’s repeated warnings about a “rigged” election are having effect: 73 percent of Republicans think the election could be swiped from him. Just 17 percent of Democrats agree with the prospect of massive fraud at the ballot box.
The public sentiment is beginning to reflect Trump's campaign message. Over the last week, the GOP nominee has intensified his criticism of the U.S. electoral system, much to the chagrin of elected Republicans, who think it threatens the peaceful transfer of power. Trump calls the process rigged, and has said the media is colluding with Hillary Clinton to throw the presidential race in her favor.
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“The results show that voters are increasingly losing confidence that votes around the country will be counted accurately on Election Day," said Kyle Dropp, cofounder and chief research officer at Morning Consult. "The sentiment especially rings true among Trump's supporters, with half expressing concern about a 'rigged election.'"
But the balloting is already well underway in many of the nearly three dozen states that allow early voting. Forty-three percent of voters say they will vote early, either by absentee or in person.
With 22 days until Election Day, nearly every credible national survey shows Clinton leading Trump by a margin ranging from five to 11 points. Overall, just 33 percent of the public believes the polls are biased in favor of Clinton. But a stunning 60 percent of Republicans say they are biased against Trump. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-41-percent-of-voters-say-the-election-could-be-stolen-from-trump-229871
Not a single one of those whiners had an issue with the polls that showed Trump winning all throughout the primary.
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On October 17 2016 23:12 Doodsmack wrote:
So Drumpf racked up a 9th accuser yesterday. "He can’t claim we’re all liars", she said. She decided to come forward after hearing Drumpf deny it.
Keep em comin
I mean, its kinda nasty to hope that there are more people hes abused. Im sure the number is higher than the people who have come out, but still hoping theres more is in poor taste imo.
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On October 17 2016 23:19 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 23:12 Doodsmack wrote:
So Drumpf racked up a 9th accuser yesterday. "He can’t claim we’re all liars", she said. She decided to come forward after hearing Drumpf deny it.
Keep em comin I mean, its kinda nasty to hope that there are more people hes abused. Im sure the number is higher than the people who have come out, but still hoping theres more is in poor taste imo.
I see what you did there  .
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On October 17 2016 23:12 Doodsmack wrote:
So Trump racked up a 9th accuser yesterday. "He can’t claim we’re all liars", she said. She decided to come forward after hearing Trump deny it.
Keep em comin
Will the number hit ten before the final debate?
EDIT: re: the rigged thing - that's some weird reporting there, looks like a piece of the 41% referenced are no respond/ no opinion? And what's up with that scale, the white bar looks way too big.
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Reminder that this tactic is old and well documented to be effective. It preys on basic psychology that if we hear something untrue often enough, we become used to it being said and more receptive it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
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On October 17 2016 22:37 ChristianS wrote:For you legal people out there, a bunch of originalist lawyers and law-professors just put out a statement opposing Trump.
I'm not familiar with that community, how much cred do those people have in that community? how influential will their statement be?
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On October 17 2016 23:35 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 22:37 ChristianS wrote:For you legal people out there, a bunch of originalist lawyers and law-professors just put out a statement opposing Trump. I'm not familiar with that community, how much cred do those people have in that community? how influential will their statement be?
The latter question is literally impossible to answer given our current state of Trump mania; however, that's a laundry list of prominent conservative legal thinkers. Adler, Epstein, Baude, and Post caught my eye specifically.
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On October 17 2016 23:29 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 23:12 Doodsmack wrote:
So Trump racked up a 9th accuser yesterday. "He can’t claim we’re all liars", she said. She decided to come forward after hearing Trump deny it.
Keep em comin Will the number hit ten before the final debate? EDIT: re: the rigged thing - that's some weird reporting there, looks like a piece of the 41% referenced are no respond/ no opinion? And what's up with that scale, the white bar looks way too big.
One for every year of his adult life is not an unreasonable estimate when you include stuff like pinching a butt.
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Few programs for the poor are so widely reviled as public housing. For opponents on the right, housing projects are costly monuments to the folly of misguided idealism, stifling residents' ambition by surrounding them with crime, decay and bureaucracy. For critics on the left, the projects — which were often segregated — became ugly icons of the racism of the white elite, an elite that was unwilling to implement more effective solutions to social problems.
If a child grows up “in one of those housing projects of which everyone in New York is so proud, he has at the front door, if not closer, the pimps, the whores, the junkies — in a word, the danger of life in the ghetto,” said James Baldwin in 1963. “And the child knows this, though he doesn’t know why.”
Comprehensive new data published this week challenges the cultural consensus on public housing. For all their flaws, housing projects can have remarkable positive effects on the children who grow up in them, researchers conclude in a paper published by the nonpartisan National Bureau of Economic Research.
Children who spend more time in public housing will earn hundreds of dollars more each year than they would have if their parents had not received housing assistance from the government during those years. Children who benefit from public housing are also less likely to be imprisoned, according to the data.
Not having to worry about paying private-sector rents, parents might have more time to spend on their children — helping them with their homework, keeping them out of trouble and guiding them to a more successful adulthood, the researchers theorize.
For decades, both Republican and Democratic policymakers have sought to move families out of public housing by offering them vouchers through Section 8. Households can use these vouchers to help pay rent in private buildings. Today, there are about 2.2 million people living in public housing, and another 5 million using vouchers to pay rent in private buildings.
John C. Haltiwanger, an economist with the University of Maryland, and his colleagues also studied the effects of Section 8 and did not find evidence that vouchers were any better for children than traditional public housing.
“There’s been a big shift away from public housing toward Section 8,” Haltiwanger said. “It’s no panacea.”
The remarkable thing that happens to poor kids when you help their parents with rent
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On October 17 2016 19:58 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2016 15:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:On October 17 2016 15:07 KwarK wrote:On October 17 2016 15:03 oBlade wrote:
this means a Republican who isn't a total clown like Ted Cruz or Mike Pence I think it's not too early to start placing bets on the 2020 election. Don't forget the 2020 election will have Lindsay Lohan and Kanye West running for the head of state! Maybe sooner because I can't picture a world where either Trump or Clinton manage to go the full term without getting impeached,arrested or overthrown. In Clintons case I cannot see her lasting a four year term health wise. No stamina and some serious question marks over the seizures, collapses, eye twitching etc Trump may have an issue there too with all the junk food he eats.
Are we doing this again?
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I think Trump's sniffing is a sign that he has lupus
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On October 17 2016 23:53 Nevuk wrote:
I think Trump's sniffing is a sign that he has lupus
I miss that show...
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