US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5534

On October 13 2016 07:09 jello_biafra wrote:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624521/jill-stein-donald-trump-better-russia

The Green party sides with Trump, Libertarians with Clinton lol...

On October 13 2016 07:06 Plansix wrote:

The only part that will be enjoyable is the day after when the polls come how showing Trump lost again. And then re-reading the posts in this thread from all the people claiming he did great. But after November 8, 2016, I'm really concerned that the GOP will just let Trump try to discredit Clintons win for their own political gain.

On October 13 2016 07:09 jello_biafra wrote:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624521/jill-stein-donald-trump-better-russia

The Green party sides with Trump, Libertarians with Clinton lol...

On October 13 2016 07:15 Logo wrote:


Even if that's the case unless the defeat is so bad to be a salted earth situation Trump's campaign has made it ok to say things that are easily verifable lies and not be held particularly accountable for it. Even if he loses he's poisoned the well pretty badly.

On October 13 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:

Jill fucking Stein. Her greatest political accomplishment is being elected as a Lexington Town meeting representative. But for some reason she is worth the time of C-SPAN so she can spout non-sense about Russia. She would endorse anyone if it got her headlines. The fact that she is head of the Green Party and is backing Trump, a guy who wants to cut environmental regulations, is the icing on the cake.

On October 13 2016 07:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:


Personally, I wish we had politicians pushing for implementation of a body designed to punish candidates for direct lies (e.g. "I won all the post-debate polls" or "I didn't tweet to check out a sex tape" or "crime/murder is at its highest in 45 years" or "Sanders wasn't there to help me with healthcare reform in the 90s").

They should have to at least pay money for lying out their ass, if not be forced to give a retraction. This isn't even fact checker stuff, it's just reality. And no, hyperbole and exaggeration is not an excuse for anyone with an audience of millions.

Pharmaceutical companies may have to pay to create entire new commercials if they get caught in misleading claims. Politicians just go on and have their morning coffee after directly lying to millions of people.

On October 13 2016 07:34 biology]major wrote:
Clinton actually got some tougher questions in the second debate, compared to the first there wasn't a single question that was aimed at her. Chris Wallace is probably the best out of all of these amateurs and will ask tough questions to both of them.

On October 13 2016 07:47 Nevuk wrote:

Radditz and Cooper, true amateurs compared to the paragon of professionalism that is Sean Hannity

Donald J. Trump was emphatic in the second presidential debate: Yes, he had boasted about kissing women without permission and grabbing their genitals. But he had never actually done those things, he said.

“No,” he declared under questioning on Sunday evening, “I have not.”

At that moment, sitting at home in Manhattan, Jessica Leeds, 74, felt he was lying to her face. “I wanted to punch the screen,” she said in an interview in her apartment.

More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling businesswoman at a paper company, Ms. Leeds said, she sat beside Mr. Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before.

About 45 minutes after takeoff, she recalled, Mr. Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her.

According to Ms. Leeds, Mr. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.

“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere.”

She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Ms. Leeds has told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with The New York Times.

Mr. Trump’s claim that his crude words had never turned into actions was similarly infuriating to a woman watching on Sunday night in Ohio: Rachel Crooks.

Ms. Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she encountered Mr. Trump outside an elevator in the building one morning in 2005.

Aware that her company did business with Mr. Trump, she turned and introduced herself. They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Instead, he began kissing her cheeks. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

It didn’t feel like an accident, she said. It felt like a violation.

“It was so inappropriate,” Ms. Crooks recalled in an interview. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”

Shaken, Ms. Crooks returned to her desk and immediately called her sister, Brianne Webb, in the small town in Ohio where they grew up, and told her what had happened.

“She was very worked up about it,” said Ms. Webb, who recalled pressing her sister for details. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naïve, I was like ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’”

In the days since Mr. Trump’s campaign was jolted by a 2005 recording that caught him bragging about pushing himself on women, he has insisted, as have his aides, that it was simply macho bluster. “It’s just words,” he has said repeatedly.

On October 13 2016 08:06 Doodsmack wrote:
Surprised that anyone is still clinging to Donald "The Titanic" Trump. I guess the establishment has claimed all the lifeboats.

On October 13 2016 08:14 farvacola wrote:
I would absolutely vote for Ja Rule.

On October 13 2016 08:27 riotjune wrote:
Holy shit this thread moves fast