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On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).
Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him. It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~
The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.
Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
No, Trump is still done. The RNC is going to hang him out to dry, his debate performance didn't do anything, he's still getting slaughtered for the pussy grabbing and there's more videos to come in the next 30 days. Everyone else is playing chess and he's playing some sort of even dumber version of checkers. He chases votes that don't matter, has no policy outlined, he couldn't remember any policy if he did actually have it outlined, he keeps bringing up Bill which loses him votes and makes Hillary sympathetic. He's the George Costanza of politics, everything he does is the wrong thing and he's not smart enough to realize it. He's finished.
The fact that mainstream media and the RNC establishment is against Trump helps Trump. Do you really think the Bush family coming out in support of Clinton helps Clinton? Especially with Dem voters?
Bringing Bill into this doesn't hurt Trump.What a ridiculous statement. Bills legacy isn't what it was 10 years ago now that the truth about what he really did with repealing Glass-Steagall, the damage NAFTA did to US manufacturing, DMCA, the rapid increase in black incarceration under his leadership due to policies implemented by him.... List is endless.... The guy was a terrible president.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
No, Trump is still done. The RNC is going to hang him out to dry, his debate performance didn't do anything, he's still getting slaughtered for the pussy grabbing and there's more videos to come in the next 30 days. Everyone else is playing chess and he's playing some sort of even dumber version of checkers. He chases votes that don't matter, has no policy outlined, he couldn't remember any policy if he did actually have it outlined, he keeps bringing up Bill which loses him votes and makes Hillary sympathetic. He's the George Costanza of politics, everything he does is the wrong thing and he's not smart enough to realize it. He's finished.
The fact that mainstream media and the RNC establishment is against Trump helps Trump. Do you really think the Bush family coming out in support of Clinton helps Clinton? Especially with Dem voters?
Bringing Bill into this doesn't hurt Trump.What a ridiculous statement. Bills legacy isn't what it was 10 years ago now that the truth about what he really did with repealing Glass-Steagall, the damage NAFTA did to US manufacturing, DMCA, the rapid increase in black incarceration under his leadership due to policies implemented by him.... List is endless.... The guy was a terrible president.
Except it doesn't help Trump at all. His lunatic base can't vote more than once. The RNC turning their back on him gives every independent in the country all the more reason to not vote for him. His own god damn party won't stand up for him anymore!
Bringing up Bill DESTROYS Trump. Trump raped a 13 year old for starters so pointing to that is going to bite him in the ass. Pointing out cheating when he's a serial cheater doesn't help either. Hillary was the victim of adultery. Pointing out her husband cheated on her when you're a cheater makes every person with a brain laugh at him and sympathetic to her.
Trumples only get 1 vote, your vote means nothing. He needs independents and he's done less than nothing to get them. He can't win an election by circle jerking the same 35% voter base over and over and over again while turning off the rest of the country. I'm sorry this is the real world where math exists and it aint on Trump's side. He's got nowhere near enough to win, in fact if the election was today Hillary wins in a landslide by every metric.
Continue living in your zerohedge alternate reality and be befuddled when he loses catastrophically. He's lost and every Republican knows it. That's why the RNC isn't helping him anymore because right now they've lost the White House already and they're looking at losing everything if they keep themselves tied to the albatross that is Trump.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).
Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him. It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~
The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.
Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.
And you expect a man as morally bankrupt as Trump to "clean up the rot". Man i've seen smart and less smart, but you are unreal.
As for the providential man cleaning up the corrupt elite, that's as old as fascism.
Tell me mate, how has far right nationalist populism worked out in your country?
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).
Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him. It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~
The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.
Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.
On October 11 2016 14:09 plasmidghost wrote: Anyone familiar with the site ZeroHedge? I've heard mixed reviews of the place, with some saying it's Infowars for wannabe economists, and was wondering if it's a legitimate site for information
One of the best news sites on the web. Call it like it is, especially with regard to the Middle East situation.
Awwww, you two are the cutest. Never change, please!
But yeah, conspiracy theories and their tinfoil hat websites aside, Trump seems done for. I'm sure the "list" that zeo would like to "purge" (kristallnacht anyone?) is alive and kicking in the r/the_donald, but thank god that is a tiny percentage of the population and we can happily ignore it.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).
Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 17:09 Kickstart wrote:
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him. It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~
The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.
Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.
And you expect a man as morally bankrupt as Trump to "clean up the rot". Man i've seen smart and less smart, but you are unreal.
As for the providential man cleaning up the corrupt elite, that's as old as fascism.
Tell me mate, how has far right nationalist populism worked out in your country?
It was leftist nationalist populism in the 90's. I'm sure you think your personal attacks and buzzwords are convincing all of your American friends that they should continue living in a Plutocracy but reality is a bit different. You can't hide this level of corruption in the modern age, it will all come tumbling down sooner or later.
All you need is someone that can't be bought out and is willing to take out the trash
On October 11 2016 10:16 JumboJohnson wrote: If you were aborted you wouldn't know it, so why would you care if your mother picked that option?
This is not a good argument
It is. It's a self selecting group. It's like those idiots who go "isn't it remarkable that of all the planets life could have evolved on we evolved on one that could support life".
Nobody is ever angry that they have been aborted so why should anyone ever be thankful that they were not. No potential child has more value than any other, a choice to have any single one is a rejection of a billion other possibilities. It's simply the nature of the thing. The born have won the lottery.
What about children whose parents hesitated to abort and then didn't?
I'd probably not enjoy healthy relations with my parents if they had hesitated to abort me.
So Clinton had a recorded breaking rally in ohio. I wonder if she can start getting the momentum going to start really affecting down the ballot races. I think most of can agree that she has been a "meh" candidate to a lot of people. If she can start firing up the base dems have a real shot at sweeping. The fact that she can get such a big rally in ohio where she has struggled is telling.
Edit Also worse nightmare for the GOP, trump supporters are starting to turn from them.
/In fact, it's so bad that Trump voters are apparently bombarding Trump spokesman Katrina Pierson with messages saying they are planning on ignoring the down-ticket races in solidarity with their cult leader. Which she brags about on Twitter, because screw you GOP or something.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).
Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 17:09 Kickstart wrote:
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him. It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~
The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.
Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.
On October 11 2016 14:09 plasmidghost wrote: Anyone familiar with the site ZeroHedge? I've heard mixed reviews of the place, with some saying it's Infowars for wannabe economists, and was wondering if it's a legitimate site for information
One of the best news sites on the web. Call it like it is, especially with regard to the Middle East situation.
Awwww, you two are the cutest. Never change, please!
But yeah, conspiracy theories and their tinfoil hat websites aside, Trump seems done for. I'm sure the "list" that zeo would like to "purge" (kristallnacht anyone?) is alive and kicking in the r/the_donald, but thank god that is a tiny percentage of the population and we can happily ignore it.
People don't trust the media to deliver unbiased decent information.Less than 1/3 of Indys.CNN talking about Ken Bones sweater like it's a big story.Whatever.Mainstream media being against Trump helps Trump just like BBC being pro remain helped Brexit.It's an anti establishment movement and Clinton is history.
On October 11 2016 19:31 Plansix wrote: I don't have to show ID. Never have. Maybe stick to commenting on shit you understand Zeo.
The NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections is on video saying that the Democrats bus people around to vote at multiple polling stations because no one asks for ID and this is the best you can come up with?
On October 11 2016 19:31 Plansix wrote: I don't have to show ID. Never have. Maybe stick to commenting on shit you understand Zeo.
The NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections is on video saying that the Democrats bus people around to vote at multiple polling stations because no one asks for ID and this is the best you can come up with?
We investigate if voter fraud takes place. It doesn't. Voter impersonation is a non-issue, no matter what some NY Democratic Party member thinks.
The fact that you don't have to show ID to vote is so fucking retarded that you deserve whatever fraud they pull off on you.
I especially like that they are called "Project Veritas". More like truthyness. That girl found some crackpot who is disillusioned by the electoral system, asked him leading questions at a party, and got him to spout drivel. Then you bring it like this is the truth, rather than just some old guy blathering nonsense.
But don't worry about me, the reptilians are mindcontrolling me.
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote: It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.
What a time to be alive.
No, Trump is still done. The RNC is going to hang him out to dry, his debate performance didn't do anything, he's still getting slaughtered for the pussy grabbing and there's more videos to come in the next 30 days. Everyone else is playing chess and he's playing some sort of even dumber version of checkers. He chases votes that don't matter, has no policy outlined, he couldn't remember any policy if he did actually have it outlined, he keeps bringing up Bill which loses him votes and makes Hillary sympathetic. He's the George Costanza of politics, everything he does is the wrong thing and he's not smart enough to realize it. He's finished.
The fact that mainstream media and the RNC establishment is against Trump helps Trump. Do you really think the Bush family coming out in support of Clinton helps Clinton? Especially with Dem voters?
Bringing Bill into this doesn't hurt Trump.What a ridiculous statement. Bills legacy isn't what it was 10 years ago now that the truth about what he really did with repealing Glass-Steagall, the damage NAFTA did to US manufacturing, DMCA, the rapid increase in black incarceration under his leadership due to policies implemented by him.... List is endless.... The guy was a terrible president.
This misses the point so badly.
Bringing up bill hurts trump not because of Bill's presidential legacy. It's because Hillary Clinton was the victim of Bill's various affairs! And despite having good reason to dump the guy she kept quiet and stuck by him. Maybe yes she tried to defend him. But who wouldn't defend a spouse (esp when at the time the evidence was incomplete).
By bashing Hillary for Bill's problems, trump is just shifting blame on the victim.
Women hate this kind of shit. Which woman woukd want to be held responsible for an unfaithful husband! The more trump brings up Bill the easier it is for Hillary to appear sympathetic to women voters.
On October 11 2016 19:31 Plansix wrote: I don't have to show ID. Never have. Maybe stick to commenting on shit you understand Zeo.
The NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections is on video saying that the Democrats bus people around to vote at multiple polling stations because no one asks for ID and this is the best you can come up with?
We investigate if voter fraud takes place. It doesn't. Voter impersonation is a non-issue, no matter what some NY Democratic Party member thinks.
The FBI investigates voter fraud. Then again they were too scared to go after Clinton.
The fact that you don't have to show ID to vote is so fucking retarded that you deserve whatever fraud they pull off on you.
I especially like that they are called "Project Veritas". More like truthyness. That girl found some crackpot who is disillusioned by the electoral system, asked him leading questions at a party, and got him to spout drivel. Then you bring it like this is the truth, rather than just some old guy blathering nonsense.
But don't worry about me, the reptilians are mindcontrolling me.
Maybe you should start putting the tin foil on you head instead of eating it. The amount of mental gymnastics and logical fallacies you have to go through to protect criminals is staggering.
On October 11 2016 19:31 Plansix wrote: I don't have to show ID. Never have. Maybe stick to commenting on shit you understand Zeo.
The NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections is on video saying that the Democrats bus people around to vote at multiple polling stations because no one asks for ID and this is the best you can come up with?
We investigate if voter fraud takes place. It doesn't. Voter impersonation is a non-issue, no matter what some NY Democratic Party member thinks.
The FBI investigates voter fraud. Then again they were too scared to go after Clinton.
Are the Republicans in congress scared that Clinton will sue them (or whatever)? Because as has been said time and time again, they have the power to appoint someone to prosecute Clinton. Regardless of what the FBI is 'to scared to do'.
So why haven't they?
Or right... They know they have nothing. So maybe the FBI isn't scared but simply correct.
On October 11 2016 19:31 Plansix wrote: I don't have to show ID. Never have. Maybe stick to commenting on shit you understand Zeo.
The NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections is on video saying that the Democrats bus people around to vote at multiple polling stations because no one asks for ID and this is the best you can come up with?
We investigate if voter fraud takes place. It doesn't. Voter impersonation is a non-issue, no matter what some NY Democratic Party member thinks.
The FBI investigates voter fraud. Then again they were too scared to go after Clinton.
Are the Republicans in congress scared that Clinton will sue them (or whatever)? Because as has been said time and time again, they have the power to appoint someone to prosecute Clinton. Regardless of what the FBI is 'to scared to do'.
So why haven't they?
Or right... They know they have nothing. So maybe the FBI isn't scared but simply correct.
It stands to reason if we apply the "Zeo is always wrong" rule of this thread.