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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 11:14:32
October 11 2016 11:14 GMT
#109961
Wikileaks : Clinton told oil majors environmentalism is "Russian Hoax".

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wikileak-Clinton-Told-Oil-Majors-Environmentalism-Is-Russian-Hoax.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
October 11 2016 11:16 GMT
#109962
It'll be fun when Democrats fill the vacuum left by Trump's down ticket dissonance.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 11 2016 11:16 GMT
#109963
On October 11 2016 20:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Wikileaks : Clinton told oil majors environmentalism is "Russian Hoax".

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wikileak-Clinton-Told-Oil-Majors-Environmentalism-Is-Russian-Hoax.html

Do you even read the shit you post?

“We were up against Russia pushing oligarchs and others to buy media. We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I’m a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand against any effort, oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you, and a lot of the money supporting that message was coming from Russia,” Clinton allegedly said.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18214 Posts
October 11 2016 11:18 GMT
#109964
On October 11 2016 20:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Wikileaks : Clinton told oil majors environmentalism is "Russian Hoax".

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wikileak-Clinton-Told-Oil-Majors-Environmentalism-Is-Russian-Hoax.html

I think you need to learn to read. That isn't what she said at all. Not that I like her support of fracking, but you can choose not to support that without having to lie about what she said.

Anyway, I don't know why I am still responding to you. Go enjoy your swimming pool of gold, and leave us alone.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
October 11 2016 11:22 GMT
#109965
On October 11 2016 18:04 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 17:49 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On October 11 2016 17:29 zeo wrote:
On October 11 2016 17:02 Aquanim wrote:
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote:
It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.

What a time to be alive.

I'll humour you and point out that the last few pages have been debating the degree to which Trump is controlled by Russia (and finding I think that the most likely hypothesis is he's being indirectly manipulated), not whether he's done for in the general (which barring a game-changer he probably is).

Right, the boogie man is out to get you came after the debate. He's done for was before.
On October 11 2016 17:09 Kickstart wrote:
On October 11 2016 16:40 zeo wrote:
It must have been a pretty wild ride these past few days for some of you guys. From triumphant proclamations of the demise of Trump, he's finished, done for, people are leaving the building - to hysterical 'b-b-but what about the boogie man?' for the last 4 pages.

What a time to be alive.

So you haven't noticed the issues the down-ballot republicans face due to last weeks events? Trump is not going to win the election and now he has potentially made some of the down-ballot races much harder for the republicans who ditched him or stuck with him.
It really does appear that some of you guys really live in an alternate reality sometimes~

The only ones that are fucked are establishment GOP politicians, they made a hail mary attempt together with the Democrats to throw Trump under the bus and failed. All their names are now on a list (which they made themselves by saying they won't vote Trump) and there will be a purge after the elections regardless of the result. To be honest cutting ties with the corrupt and cancerous establishment should have happened a long time ago but better late than never. The ones that are really fucked are the Democrats that are digging themselves deeper and deeper into the hole.

Corrupt governments and ruling elites usually protect themselves and their cronies from prosecution, up until now the GOP and DNC establishments had each others backs but if Trump comes to power they are all fucked. Who cares who wins the down-ballot races as long as you stop the rot thats been eating the top government levels for 3 decades now.

And you expect a man as morally bankrupt as Trump to "clean up the rot". Man i've seen smart and less smart, but you are unreal.

As for the providential man cleaning up the corrupt elite, that's as old as fascism.

Tell me mate, how has far right nationalist populism worked out in your country?

It was leftist nationalist populism in the 90's. I'm sure you think your personal attacks and buzzwords are convincing all of your American friends that they should continue living in a Plutocracy but reality is a bit different. You can't hide this level of corruption in the modern age, it will all come tumbling down sooner or later.

All you need is someone that can't be bought out and is willing to take out the trash

Yeah, you sound like French ligueurs in the 1930's.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM

I was going to ask you what exactly makes you believe that a man with more scandals than the whole of Washington politicians put together will "take out the trash" but don't bother. You like Trump for the reason every far right leader succeeds: because his machisto crap makes you believe he is the savior, the great providential man that will clean up some vague elites you resent.

Seen that somewhere before.

As for the "this guy is so rich he can't be bought" it's not only unbelievably dumb and naive in itself. It's also disproven in the most spectacular fashion in recent history by Berlisconi, who actually shares quite a few traits with your orange hero.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
October 11 2016 11:25 GMT
#109966
On October 11 2016 20:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Wikileaks : Clinton told oil majors environmentalism is "Russian Hoax".

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wikileak-Clinton-Told-Oil-Majors-Environmentalism-Is-Russian-Hoax.html

For the record, would you consider it to be a disqualifying factor about a candidate for president of the United States that they believe obviously false conspiracy theories about foreign governments perpetrating hoaxes?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
October 11 2016 11:25 GMT
#109967
On October 11 2016 20:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Wikileaks : Clinton told oil majors environmentalism is "Russian Hoax".

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wikileak-Clinton-Told-Oil-Majors-Environmentalism-Is-Russian-Hoax.html

Are you serious?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
October 11 2016 11:30 GMT
#109968
Geez where are the articulate conservatives in this thread?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
October 11 2016 11:40 GMT
#109969
Mostly still asleep or on their way to work, it's only 7:40 AM on the East Coast
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4383 Posts
October 11 2016 11:49 GMT
#109970
Clinton admits in private emails that Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments help fund ISIL.
Why does your foundation keep accepting their money then Hill?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774
On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence >> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and >> other radical Sunni groups in the region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
October 11 2016 12:00 GMT
#109971
On October 11 2016 20:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Clinton admits in private emails that Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments help fund ISIL.
Why does your foundation keep accepting their money then Hill?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774
On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
Show nested quote +
While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence >> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and >> other radical Sunni groups in the region.

I'm a little unclear on why it would be immoral to accept money which is to be directly put to charitable purposes, even if the source is distasteful.

(If the money were directly stolen that would be different.)

You also still haven't answered this:
For the record, would you consider it to be a disqualifying factor about a candidate for president of the United States that they believe obviously false conspiracy theories about foreign governments perpetrating hoaxes?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18214 Posts
October 11 2016 12:04 GMT
#109972
On October 11 2016 21:00 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 20:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Clinton admits in private emails that Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments help fund ISIL.
Why does your foundation keep accepting their money then Hill?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774
On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence >> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and >> other radical Sunni groups in the region.

I'm a little unclear on why it would be immoral to accept money which is to be directly put to charitable purposes, even if the source is distasteful.

(If the money were directly stolen that would be different.)

You also still haven't answered this:
Show nested quote +
For the record, would you consider it to be a disqualifying factor about a candidate for president of the United States that they believe obviously false conspiracy theories about foreign governments perpetrating hoaxes?

Why would that be a downside for nettles? He himself believes obviously false conspiracy theories about all manner of things. Presumably he'd cheer any president with a similarly tenuous grasp on the truth. All hail his most illustrious Trumpiness!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
October 11 2016 12:21 GMT
#109973
Glenn Beck basically endorsed Hillary lol, hell hath frozen over.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 11 2016 12:25 GMT
#109974
Maybe he's trying reverse psychology.
Yargh
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18214 Posts
October 11 2016 12:32 GMT
#109975
On October 11 2016 21:21 farvacola wrote:
Glenn Beck basically endorsed Hillary lol, hell hath frozen over.

No. He just very emphatically did NOT endorse Trump (and considered voting for Clinton, but decided not to). He endorsed some random 3rd party candidate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/glenn-beck-hillary-clinton_us_57fc695be4b0e655eab74351
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 12:33:35
October 11 2016 12:33 GMT
#109976
For a conservative radio personality like Beck, that's a virtual endorsement if not an explicit one.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
October 11 2016 12:36 GMT
#109977
On October 11 2016 20:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Clinton admits in private emails that Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments help fund ISIL.
Why does your foundation keep accepting their money then Hill?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774
On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
Show nested quote +
While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence >> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and >> other radical Sunni groups in the region.

Hi,

Do you know that Trump has not put a penny in his foundation since 2009 and that his foundation has spent millions of dollars given by oeople who thought they were doing charitable stuff in justice fee for trials of his that had nothing to do with said foundation?

I would like to know what you think about it.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18214 Posts
October 11 2016 12:39 GMT
#109978
Also, finally found some time to watch a highlight reel of the debate. It was a mess, but what struck me is that Clinton's looks are a lot more charming than they were in the first debate. Maybe it's the dark blue and grey jacket as opposed to the red, or it's something to do with her makeup, but she just comes across as a friendlier person than in the first debate.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 11 2016 12:45 GMT
#109979
I doubt the debate changed anything really, the notion that someone "won" seems pretty weird too.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4383 Posts
October 11 2016 13:04 GMT
#109980
On October 11 2016 21:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 20:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Clinton admits in private emails that Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments help fund ISIL.
Why does your foundation keep accepting their money then Hill?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774
On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence >> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and >> other radical Sunni groups in the region.

Hi,

Do you know that Trump has not put a penny in his foundation since 2009 and that his foundation has spent millions of dollars given by oeople who thought they were doing charitable stuff in justice fee for trials of his that had nothing to do with said foundation?

I would like to know what you think about it.

Unrelated.
We're talking about Clinton herself stating Saudi and Qatar are funding ISIL yet the US continue to send weapons to Saudi, continue to count Saudi as an ally and Clinton allows Saudi to donate to her charity.

Anyway wikileaks just released another 1,100 emails a few minutes ago.
This is turning into a real nightmare for Clinton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
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