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Broetchenholer
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Biff The Understudy
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On October 10 2016 21:52 Ayaz2810 wrote: What continues to shock me, is even after the tape, his record with women, and his own fucking daughters cringing away from him, this is still not brought up. Anyone have any idea why? This, to me, seems more important than most of the bullshit that goes on between them. Also, Trump's foray into ISIS territory when asked about the tape was deliciously awkward and terrible. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html Like, how are people still talking about emails when this kind of stuff is going down? I think we all came to the conclusion that there is not much to do for people who consider Trump a morally better and more suited person to be potus than Clinton. You could show zeo or NukeD a video of Trump gang raping a 6 years old with kkk members singing death to n..., they would keep screaming "Benghazi!!" Someone not convinced by everything we have seen (and the list is really fucking long) that this guy is a narcissistic clown won't be convinced by any new material. | ||
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zeo
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On October 10 2016 21:28 NukeD wrote: Oh nvm, I tought zeo knew what he was talking about. Trump can't possibly win any poll anywhere. Look, 3 days after the debates his numbers go up by 100s, see! Seee! They are rigging polls, told you so! If you are an intellectual like me you will see it, see! Does it really matter they stopped caring about polls 2 days ago? Does it really matter if its all over the media the last 48h that Trump has been rigging polls? Does it really matter that nobody cares about a political poll on a hippie Starcraft forum outside of that forum? You're not implying.... gasp! Someone might be using underhanded tactics to reaffirm confirmation bias in a community that reveals in victim complexes and has a long history of making shit up to lift their ego's? Damn, Putin must be going on that hippie/communist Brood War forum to shill for Trump, because anyone with even minuscule knowledge of forum culture here would know the outcome of poll rigging here. | ||
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farvacola
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TheTenthDoc
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On October 10 2016 22:01 zeo wrote: Trump can't possibly win any poll anywhere. Look, 3 days after the debates his numbers go up by 100s, see! Seee! They are rigging polls, told you so! If you are an intellectual like me you will see it, see! Does it really matter they stopped caring about polls 2 days ago? Does it really matter if its all over the media the last 48h that Trump has been rigging polls? Does it really matter that nobody cares about a political poll on a hippie Starcraft forum outside of that forum? You're not implying.... gasp! Someone might be using underhanded tactics to reaffirm confirmation bias in a community that reveals in victim complexes and has a long history of making shit up to lift their ego's? Damn, Putin must be going on that hippie/communist Brood War forum to shill for Trump, because anyone with even minuscule knowledge of forum culture here would know the outcome of poll rigging here. I think it's pretty hilarious that this convoluted non-argument that contradicts what happened after the last debate constitutes evidence of meddling to you, yet I'm betting you still don't think there's evidence Russia was behind the DNC hacks. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
On October 10 2016 21:52 Ayaz2810 wrote: What continues to shock me, is even after the tape, his record with women, and his own fucking daughters cringing away from him, this is still not brought up. Anyone have any idea why? This, to me, seems more important than most of the bullshit that goes on between them. Also, Trump's foray into ISIS territory when asked about the tape was deliciously awkward and terrible. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html Like, how are people still talking about emails when this kind of stuff is going down? Trump has so many scandals out in the open there's no point in bringing up stuff that isn't confirmed. This case imo is more akin to the anti-hillary scandals in terms of trustworthiness, and I generally reject those. | ||
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Plansix
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DarkPlasmaBall
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On October 10 2016 21:52 Ayaz2810 wrote: What continues to shock me, is even after the tape, his record with women, and his own fucking daughters cringing away from him, this is still not brought up. Anyone have any idea why? This, to me, seems more important than most of the bullshit that goes on between them. Also, Trump's foray into ISIS territory when asked about the tape was deliciously awkward and terrible. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html Like, how are people still talking about emails when this kind of stuff is going down? You do realize there were 4 woman ON THE PUBLIC who claim Bill Clinton raped them and Hillary threathen them to keep silence and Trump is the bad guy because of some locker room talk? It what kind alternative reality do you guys live? | ||
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Plansix
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On October 10 2016 22:14 GoTuNk! wrote: You do realize there were 4 woman ON THE PUBLIC who claim Bill Clinton raped them and Hillary threathen them to keep silence and Trump is the bad guy because of some locker room talk? It what kind alternative reality do you guys live? Bill Clinton isn’t running for president, FYI. I know you might have missed that. And even if what you said was relevant, that only means that we shouldn’t ignore the claims against Donald Trump. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:03 farvacola wrote: Apparently professional athletes are up in arms over Trump's disparagement of the locker room lol All this can make me think of is the Key and Peele skit. Come on everybody does it! No, you're literally the only one who does it! On October 10 2016 22:14 GoTuNk! wrote: You do realize there were 4 woman ON THE PUBLIC who claim Bill Clinton raped them and Hillary threathen them to keep silence and Trump is the bad guy because of some locker room talk? It what kind alternative reality do you guys live? You do realize that Juanita Broddrick testified under oath not once but twice that Bill Clinton did not rape her? And that her various statements were contradictory? Bill Clinton had several known (and probably several undisclosed) extramarital affairs. His position as an elected official impacts the power dynamic between him and his counterpart in a weird and bad way. However, since I believe in the rule of law unlike some of the purported lawyers in this thread, in my eyes he's innocent of sexual assault. He's not just innocent until proven guilty, he's already been proved innocent by our judicial system. | ||
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JinDesu
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:14 GoTuNk! wrote: You do realize there were 4 woman ON THE PUBLIC who claim Bill Clinton raped them and Hillary threathen them to keep silence and Trump is the bad guy because of some locker room talk? It what kind alternative reality do you guys live? do you read what you respond to? Ayaz is not talking about locker room talk, he is talking about Trump allegedly raping a 13 year old back in the 90s. There's just as much legs to this story (Trump raping a 13 year old) as there is to the idea that Hillary threatened the women Bill raped to silence them. | ||
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Toadesstern
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+ Show Spoiler [pic] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xiY0TuX.png) how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO | ||
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farvacola
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TheTenthDoc
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Get your shit together, man. Obamacare: Repeal it. Replace it. Speaking at the Iowa Freedom Summit in January, Trump said Obamacare is a catastrophe that must be repealed and replaced. In 2011, Trump suggested that the health insurance industry have more ability to cross state lines. In “The America We Deserve” Trump wrote that he supported universal healthcare and a system that would mirror Canada’s government-run healthcare service. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/what-does-donald-trump-believe-where-the-candidate-stands-on-10-issues | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:19 Plansix wrote: Bill Clinton isn’t running for president, FYI. I know you might have missed that. And even if what you said was relevant, that only means that we shouldn’t ignore the claims against Donald Trump. It seems you missed the part where Hillary threathen thems, I'll rewrite it for you so your selective memory cannot avoid it this time: and Hillary threathen them to keep silence Broaddrick stated that Clinton raped her and that Hillary Clinton knew about it, and tried to threaten Broaddrick into remaining silent. She claimed that she started giving some interviews in 2015 because Hillary Clinton's statement that victims of sexual assault should be believed angered her.[7] Random rape accusation 30 days before elections is an obvious hoax. Unlike Bill who was actually prosecuted and settled. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45267 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote: just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place): + Show Spoiler [pic] + how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:30 GoTuNk! wrote: It seems you missed the part where Hillary threathen thems, I'll rewrite it for you so your selective memory cannot avoid it this time: and Hillary threathen them to keep silence Broaddrick stated that Clinton raped her and that Hillary Clinton knew about it, and tried to threaten Broaddrick into remaining silent. She claimed that she started giving some interviews in 2015 because Hillary Clinton's statement that victims of sexual assault should be believed angered her.[7] Random rape accusation 30 days before elections is an obvious hoax. Unlike Bill who was actually prosecuted and settled. The rape accusation against Trump has been going forward for at least 2 months now I think (a quick google makes it sound like it was brought in June initially since Trump denied it back then), it wasn't brought 30 days before the election. They've tried to bring it two other times. | ||
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