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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
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farvacola
United States18846 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ I don't think any of that is because of the debate. If you look at the timeframe of the polls they're all from before the 2nd debate, also before the audio leak iirc. Trump just kept losing on a daily basis ever since the first debate and that hasn't stopped yet. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9172 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote: just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place): + Show Spoiler [pic] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xiY0TuX.png) how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO Rasmussen had Trump +2 four days before this Clinton +7 poll, they didn't change methodology so pretty insane if the tape alone did that | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote: Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile. Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought (so no, it is not just being brought 30 days before the election). http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/ | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45267 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:34 Nevuk wrote: There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped. Ah okay. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote: Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile. Is this satire? I'm speechless. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:34 Dan HH wrote: Rasmussen had Trump +2 four days before this Clinton +7 poll, they didn't change methodology so pretty insane if the tape alone did that oh right, I said let's forget about the Reuters one but if that can be trusted that would be one that at least has the audio leak somewhat in the timeframe. That would be insane, would like to see more on that though, especially considering that they're usually on the right side when it comes to polls. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:34 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought. http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/ Attorneys deny claims are legit like you and I breathe air. It is the default response, regardless of the merits of the case. But without knowing who the Plaintiff is, it is hard to say anything. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:34 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought. http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/ Doesn't matter. Until he admits in public himself that he didn't rape her it's not enough for me. Hell, until there is tape of him not being the one to commit it it isn't enough for me | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:34 Nevuk wrote: There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped. The most recent Rasmussen poll was conducted 10/5 to 10/9, so it has two days (Saturday and Sunday) since the tape dropped. That's the one that has Clinton at +7 (from being at Trump +2). The LAtimes poll also has two days post-tape, but since it's a tracking poll it has five days without the tape so you won't see much change as a result. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I'm just applying right wing logic. Why won't he deny that he's a pedophile? He's been accused in court. He clearly wants to be President in order to be able to pardon himself after engaging in multiple acts of debauchery in the oval office. He won't be satisfied until there is a constant flow of blood on the president's desk. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:39 Nevuk wrote: I'm just applying right wing logic. Why won't he deny that he's a pedophile? He's been accused in court. He clearly wants to be President in order to be able to pardon himself after engaging in multiple acts of debauchery in the oval office. He won't be satisfied until there is a constant flow of blood on the president's desk. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think the President can actually pardon themselves. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
yeah, he is satirizing you lol. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2016 22:41 Aquanim wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think the President can actually pardon themselves. The President can’t be charged with a crime. They need to be removed from office and then charged. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
To those who think Clinton was over focusing on Russia, we are not the only ones that are having issues with that nation. It's not uncommon for cyber-attackers to enter a target's network to look for information. But what happened to TV5 was not espionage - the aim was destruction. And that is indicative of a new trend: attacks with physical-world consequences. Arguably, the pioneering state-backed attack of this type was Stuxnet. This was carried out - it is widely believed - by the US and Israel against Iran's nuclear programme and involved damaging the centrifuge programme at Natanz. More recently, a power station in Ukraine was switched off by cyber-attackers. The TV5 attack fits into this pattern of highly-targeted attacks, rather than the kind of general criminal activity typically seen on the web. The issue as to why Russian hackers targeted the company is one that has occupied intelligence analysts in the UK and US, as well as France. In London, the conclusion was that it was most likely an attempt to test forms of cyber-weaponry as part of an increasingly aggressive posture. And reports are now saying that Russia it plans to open a permanent base in Syria and is in talks with Egypt to reopen a base in that country. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1950 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/turns-out-donald-trump-attacked-woman-who-accused-him-of-sexual-assault-this-year/ | ||
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