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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 10 2016 13:31 GMT
#109561
That first question where trump is asked if it is not bad that he brags about molesting women and he anwers by talking about the terrible, terrible ISIS made me think of this:

"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18830 Posts
October 10 2016 13:32 GMT
#109562
It's fun seeing people who are otherwise incredibly skeptical of rape claims bend over backwards to make Hillary liable for a rape that legally did not happen. Alas, if only the rape thread were still open...
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 13:32 GMT
#109563
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 10 2016 13:33 GMT
#109564
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO


Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

I don't think any of that is because of the debate. If you look at the timeframe of the polls they're all from before the 2nd debate, also before the audio leak iirc. Trump just kept losing on a daily basis ever since the first debate and that hasn't stopped yet.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9122 Posts
October 10 2016 13:34 GMT
#109565
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO

Rasmussen had Trump +2 four days before this Clinton +7 poll, they didn't change methodology so pretty insane if the tape alone did that
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 13:35:16
October 10 2016 13:34 GMT
#109566
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought (so no, it is not just being brought 30 days before the election).

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 13:34 GMT
#109567
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO


Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44391 Posts
October 10 2016 13:35 GMT
#109568
On October 10 2016 22:34 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO


Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped.


Ah okay.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 10 2016 13:36 GMT
#109569
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Is this satire? I'm speechless.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 13:38:25
October 10 2016 13:36 GMT
#109570
On October 10 2016 22:34 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO

Rasmussen had Trump +2 four days before this Clinton +7 poll, they didn't change methodology so pretty insane if the tape alone did that

oh right, I said let's forget about the Reuters one but if that can be trusted that would be one that at least has the audio leak somewhat in the timeframe. That would be insane, would like to see more on that though, especially considering that they're usually on the right side when it comes to polls.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 13:36 GMT
#109571
On October 10 2016 22:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/

Attorneys deny claims are legit like you and I breathe air. It is the default response, regardless of the merits of the case. But without knowing who the Plaintiff is, it is hard to say anything.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 13:36 GMT
#109572
On October 10 2016 22:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Well, his attorney did deny it. Back in June when the case was first brought.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-donald-trump-was-accused-of-raping-a-13-year-old-but-this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/

Doesn't matter. Until he admits in public himself that he didn't rape her it's not enough for me. Hell, until there is tape of him not being the one to commit it it isn't enough for me
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 13:38:23
October 10 2016 13:37 GMT
#109573
On October 10 2016 22:34 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 10 2016 22:27 Toadesstern wrote:
just took a look at 538 under updates to get some kind of baseline pre-debate since polls about the audio leak and the debate are obviously not out yet but man that's a mess for Trump (let's just all agree to ignore the Reuters one, that's still all over the place):

+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]


how do you end up 10 behind Clinton in a "swingstate", aka PA oO


Looks like I was wrong... I didn't think either candidate would start receiving a post-debate bump in the polls because I thought the debate was a lot closer than the first one, but 538 already has a small increase for Hillary, from 81% pre-debate to 82% post-debate. Let's see if it'll reach 83-85%! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

There haven't been any polls conducted since the grab them by the pussy tape dropped.


The most recent Rasmussen poll was conducted 10/5 to 10/9, so it has two days (Saturday and Sunday) since the tape dropped. That's the one that has Clinton at +7 (from being at Trump +2).

The LAtimes poll also has two days post-tape, but since it's a tracking poll it has five days without the tape so you won't see much change as a result.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 13:39 GMT
#109574
On October 10 2016 22:36 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Is this satire? I'm speechless.

I'm just applying right wing logic. Why won't he deny that he's a pedophile? He's been accused in court. He clearly wants to be President in order to be able to pardon himself after engaging in multiple acts of debauchery in the oval office. He won't be satisfied until there is a constant flow of blood on the president's desk.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
October 10 2016 13:41 GMT
#109575
On October 10 2016 22:39 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:36 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Is this satire? I'm speechless.

I'm just applying right wing logic. Why won't he deny that he's a pedophile? He's been accused in court. He clearly wants to be President in order to be able to pardon himself after engaging in multiple acts of debauchery in the oval office. He won't be satisfied until there is a constant flow of blood on the president's desk.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think the President can actually pardon themselves.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 10 2016 13:42 GMT
#109576
On October 10 2016 22:36 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Is this satire? I'm speechless.

yeah, he is satirizing you lol.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 13:43 GMT
#109577
On October 10 2016 22:41 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 22:39 Nevuk wrote:
On October 10 2016 22:36 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 10 2016 22:32 Nevuk wrote:
Trump rapes 13 year olds and has never denied it. Why are you trying to argue with the facts? The man has a history of misogyny and has admitted to participating in sexual assault. He grabs women by the pussy and forces his vile disgusting tongue down their throats without waiting for consent. Tic tac had to come out and admit they weren't a rape tool thanks to him. Let's just call Trump what he is - a vile, rapist pedophile.


Is this satire? I'm speechless.

I'm just applying right wing logic. Why won't he deny that he's a pedophile? He's been accused in court. He clearly wants to be President in order to be able to pardon himself after engaging in multiple acts of debauchery in the oval office. He won't be satisfied until there is a constant flow of blood on the president's desk.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think the President can actually pardon themselves.

The President can’t be charged with a crime. They need to be removed from office and then charged.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 13:55 GMT
#109578
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37590375

To those who think Clinton was over focusing on Russia, we are not the only ones that are having issues with that nation.

It's not uncommon for cyber-attackers to enter a target's network to look for information.
But what happened to TV5 was not espionage - the aim was destruction. And that is indicative of a new trend: attacks with physical-world consequences.
Arguably, the pioneering state-backed attack of this type was Stuxnet.
This was carried out - it is widely believed - by the US and Israel against Iran's nuclear programme and involved damaging the centrifuge programme at Natanz.
More recently, a power station in Ukraine was switched off by cyber-attackers.
The TV5 attack fits into this pattern of highly-targeted attacks, rather than the kind of general criminal activity typically seen on the web.
The issue as to why Russian hackers targeted the company is one that has occupied intelligence analysts in the UK and US, as well as France.
In London, the conclusion was that it was most likely an attempt to test forms of cyber-weaponry as part of an increasingly aggressive posture.


And reports are now saying that Russia it plans to open a permanent base in Syria and is in talks with Egypt to reopen a base in that country.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1944 Posts
October 10 2016 14:00 GMT
#109579
I don't believe there is any merit for discussion the candidates at this point. Who hasn't changed his mind after all that ime will not change now. Who still sticks with Trump cannot be changed even if he killed someone on tape. Clinton might lose voters to not voting, but only if she actually shot someone on tape. Both won't happen, so just chill until the elction.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 14:01 GMT
#109580
Look, yet another rape victim who had their character attacked viciously by their rapist after they came forward with their news:

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/turns-out-donald-trump-attacked-woman-who-accused-him-of-sexual-assault-this-year/



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