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Chris1
Profile Joined July 2016
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 10:27:47
October 10 2016 10:27 GMT
#109521
Hopefully were are not headed to World War 3, looking at Ms. Clinton's psychological profile.

http://personality-politics.org/hillary-clinton
The psychological profile of Hillary Clinton says:
"Clinton’s profile most closely approximates the “high-dominance introvert” category. According to Etheredge, high-dominance introverts (e.g., presidents such as Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover) are quite willing to use military force, tending to divide the world, in their thought, between the moral values they think it ought to exhibit and the forces opposed to this vision.

http://uspp.csbsju.edu/clinton-hr/character.html
"She often seemed not to recognize when she was hurting people.”
"Empathy was not characteristic of Hillary.”
"The primary psychological precursor of an aggressive, controlling personality orientation is parental hostility." Childhood nicknames sometimes provide a useful index of an individual’s ingrained, central personality traits. Among their mock predictions for seniors, Hillary Rodham’s high school newspaper proclaimed that Hillary’s destiny was to become a nun named “Sister Frigidaire.”
"For both Clinton's, the end result is a sense of entitlement—“a tendency to not want to be bound by limits (and laws) that apply to others.”
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 10 2016 10:44 GMT
#109522
The way Trump answered to the “grab them by the p…” stuff is absolutely hilarious. 4 sentences of vague excuses into some completely off topic ISIS rant.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 10 2016 10:47 GMT
#109523
On October 10 2016 18:56 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 18:54 TheDwf wrote:
62 pages instead of 52 (?) the first time. Any transcript of the debate released yet?

http://time.com/4523325/read-the-transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate/


Just read the first question and the answers to that. Neither candidate actually answered the question and both just responded with their campaign slogans.

"Do you think you are a good example for young people?"
Clinton: "I'm all about being STRONGER TOGETHER"
Trump: "I'm all about making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

However, as much as I think that President Trump would be the worst thing to happen to America since Columbus discovered it, Cooper didn't actually ask Clinton to answer the question after she didn't actually answer it, but insisted that Trump provide an actual answer and requested that he'd state that he never groped women, so he did give Trump an excuse to cry foul after the debate.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
October 10 2016 10:56 GMT
#109524
On October 10 2016 19:47 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 18:56 Kickstart wrote:
On October 10 2016 18:54 TheDwf wrote:
62 pages instead of 52 (?) the first time. Any transcript of the debate released yet?

http://time.com/4523325/read-the-transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate/


Just read the first question and the answers to that. Neither candidate actually answered the question and both just responded with their campaign slogans.

"Do you think you are a good example for young people?"
Clinton: "I'm all about being STRONGER TOGETHER"
Trump: "I'm all about making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

However, as much as I think that President Trump would be the worst thing to happen to America since Columbus discovered it, Cooper didn't actually ask Clinton to answer the question after she didn't actually answer it, but insisted that Trump provide an actual answer and requested that he'd state that he never groped women, so he did give Trump an excuse to cry foul after the debate.

I'd say Clinton has less to answer about than Trump on that specific topic, but you do have a point.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 10 2016 10:57 GMT
#109525
On October 10 2016 19:47 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 18:56 Kickstart wrote:
On October 10 2016 18:54 TheDwf wrote:
62 pages instead of 52 (?) the first time. Any transcript of the debate released yet?

http://time.com/4523325/read-the-transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate/


Just read the first question and the answers to that. Neither candidate actually answered the question and both just responded with their campaign slogans.

"Do you think you are a good example for young people?"
Clinton: "I'm all about being STRONGER TOGETHER"
Trump: "I'm all about making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

Yeah, the product placement is so obvious.

Also, how do you guys...

So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 11:28 GMT
#109526
The #MuslimsReportStuff hash tag is pretty good. Quality response to a shitty answer.







I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 11:36:10
October 10 2016 11:35 GMT
#109527
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
Show nested quote +
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
October 10 2016 11:52 GMT
#109528
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28892 Posts
October 10 2016 12:02 GMT
#109529
why the hell are you making the claim that it's a clinton troll again? If you wanna be agnostic in terms of who did it that's totally fine, reasonable even, but this is just nonsense. There's nothing to back up your claim, no history of this happening, no documented example of it being the case anywhere, lots of examples of trump supporters rigging online polls. This is just you being a complete conspiracy lunatic.
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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
October 10 2016 12:06 GMT
#109530
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.
sorry for dem one liners
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
October 10 2016 12:08 GMT
#109531
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.

It most likely isn't, to zeo everything is some false flag conspiracy
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 10 2016 12:10 GMT
#109532
Now trump has learned through experience what works and what doesn't, playing defense is pointless. Expect the third debate to go even worse for hrc.
Question.?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28892 Posts
October 10 2016 12:23 GMT
#109533
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.


there are literally 0 things indicating that this is done by a Clinton fan. There are some things indicating that it is prolly a Trump fan (online polls everywhere being rigged by Trump fans).
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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
October 10 2016 12:28 GMT
#109534
On October 10 2016 21:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.


there are literally 0 things indicating that this is done by a Clinton fan. There are some things indicating that it is prolly a Trump fan (online polls everywhere being rigged by Trump fans).

Oh nvm, I tought zeo knew what he was talking about.
sorry for dem one liners
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 12:35:06
October 10 2016 12:31 GMT
#109535
Do you guys remember "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"?

When John Kerry ran for President, a big part of the Republican campaign centered around allegations that John Kerry didn't deserve his Congressional Medal of Honor.

The accusers turned out to be liars, telling stories they couldn't possibly have witnessed. But it didn't matter. The accusation itself was a media sensation.

Ask the question, "Is it true Hillary Clinton is a child molester?" on national TV, and it becomes a "mystery". That dirty Hillary is obviously covering-up her secret child-molestations.

Republicans discovered a while ago that accusations and allegations are as good as actual facts in modern America.


What they did to John Kerry isn't really much worse than what they're doing to Hillary. The GOP turned politics into reality-TV dumpster-fire long before Trump arrived. Trump isn't the disease, he's just a raging symptom.
Big water
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 12:45:33
October 10 2016 12:44 GMT
#109536
On October 10 2016 21:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.


there are literally 0 things indicating that this is done by a Clinton fan. There are some things indicating that it is prolly a Trump fan (online polls everywhere being rigged by Trump fans).

We talked about this in website feedback. You know the most likely culprit last time was a troll, and that they took too long to come up with the idea and start botting. We talked about this for 2 pages and you are feigning ignorence now.

Oh please, its not 9/11. Just a sad sad individual.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8184 Posts
October 10 2016 12:45 GMT
#109537
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.

And this is how really dumb right wing conspiracy theories start. You guys are pure gold.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7194 Posts
October 10 2016 12:49 GMT
#109538
On October 10 2016 21:28 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 21:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On October 10 2016 21:06 NukeD wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:52 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2016 20:35 zf wrote:
On October 10 2016 19:57 TheDwf wrote:
Also, how do you guys...
So this is who Donald Trump is. And the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. That’s why — to go back to your question — I want to send a message — we all should — to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that America already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity.

... can bear such moral platitudes? When reading those things, it always seems like the candidates are talking to 8 years old children. It's almost insulting.

Two-thirds of Americans voters do not hold a bachelor's degree, and many voters cast their ballots based on likability. The bolded sentence also isn't as bad as it might seem.

Edit: I didn't know that there were 112 Trump supporters on Team Liquid.

There aren't, some Clinton troll is botting the polls to 'prove a point'. Sad really, should have stopped after the last fiasco.

What point is he trying to prove? I didn't realise this was done by a Clinton fan.


there are literally 0 things indicating that this is done by a Clinton fan. There are some things indicating that it is prolly a Trump fan (online polls everywhere being rigged by Trump fans).

Oh nvm, I tought zeo knew what he was talking about.

It's Zeo :D
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8184 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 12:55:25
October 10 2016 12:52 GMT
#109539
On October 10 2016 21:10 biology]major wrote:
Now trump has learned through experience what works and what doesn't, playing defense is pointless. Expect the third debate to go even worse for hrc.

Fun fact, The Guardian, the Washington Post and 538 consider the debate to have been better for Clinton. 538 considers he got out in an even worse position than he entered. The NYT considers it's a draw that won't help Trump.

Survey showed the public considers Clinton won (by a narrow margin though).

What most people agree on is that Trump's performance was good to solidify the support of the people voting for him (lock her up) and awful for indecisive voters (he came out as an obnoxious disgusting bully). And everybody agrees that he desperately need to gain new voters because the people who like his crap are not numerous enough to win him that thing. In that regard, even if it made people like you cheer, his performance was supremely counter productive.

It was not the train wreck of last time but you should stop mixing up your wishes and reality.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-second-debate-probably-didnt-help-trump-and-he-needed-help/
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 10 2016 12:52 GMT
#109540
What continues to shock me, is even after the tape, his record with women, and his own fucking daughters cringing away from him, this is still not brought up. Anyone have any idea why? This, to me, seems more important than most of the bullshit that goes on between them. Also, Trump's foray into ISIS territory when asked about the tape was deliciously awkward and terrible.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

Like, how are people still talking about emails when this kind of stuff is going down?
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