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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43737 Posts
October 09 2016 19:51 GMT
#108161
On October 10 2016 04:46 Hexe wrote:
Trump has nothing to lose and will appear his most relaxed and will destroy Clinton. She will have multiple marco rubio robot moments and the race will continue

The more aggressive, out of control and generally Trump-like Trump gets the more unpopular he gets. If that's his plan then Hillary basically just needs to show up and make general policy sounding noises to appear presidential while Donald makes a buffoon out of himself.
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 09 2016 19:51 GMT
#108162
On October 10 2016 04:46 Hexe wrote:
Trump has nothing to lose and will appear his most relaxed and will destroy Clinton. She will have multiple marco rubio robot moments and the race will continue


Let trump be trump in it's final form. No media, no establishment, just him and his supporters vs the clinton mob. He might do some damage before going down in flames.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 09 2016 19:55 GMT
#108163
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22148 Posts
October 09 2016 19:56 GMT
#108164
I wonder if Trump will actually try to focus on policy tonight.
Attack Hillary will not work, He is going to have to defend himself a lot and needs something to draw attention away. I expect him to focus a lot on his policies (in sofar as they exist) to draw the fight away from his persona.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 20:00:07
October 09 2016 19:57 GMT
#108165
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Reports are up it was because they feared Trump suing them. The Post broke it instead, because they report the news, not entertainment. Broadcast news is completely toothless at this point.

Edit: I'm really enjoying the delusion Trump being more aggressive will somehow earn him undecided votes. There are not many demographics he can insult at this point. He got all of them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 09 2016 19:58 GMT
#108166
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9188 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 19:59:49
October 09 2016 19:59 GMT
#108167
On October 10 2016 04:51 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:46 Hexe wrote:
Trump has nothing to lose and will appear his most relaxed and will destroy Clinton. She will have multiple marco rubio robot moments and the race will continue


Let trump be trump in it's final form. No media, no establishment, just him and his supporters vs the clinton mob. He might do some damage before going down in flames.

The way for Trump to do some real damage would have been to present his 'out there' ideas in a presidential manner. Going full buffoon does nothing but focus the attention on him and his flaws instead of whichever subjects help his case.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22148 Posts
October 09 2016 19:59 GMT
#108168
On October 10 2016 04:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.

advantage for Trump, longest possible time to make people forget about it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 20:03:01
October 09 2016 20:02 GMT
#108169
On October 10 2016 04:59 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.

advantage for Trump, longest possible time to make people forget about it.


He should honestly just apologize in a sentence or two and just shift into policy. If it is brought up AGAIN then he should just deflect onto juanita.

whats actually going to happen: he's going to get baited left and right and is going to end up looking bad.
Question.?
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
October 09 2016 20:03 GMT
#108170
On October 10 2016 04:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.


Why? She isn't talking on the tape. "Do you condemn these bad things Trump said?" HRC: "yes, they are bad". What a waste of the public's time. Here are some good questions on the subject:

"DJT, how many other tapes are out there of you discussing your moves on women?"

or

"DJT, what will you say when the next tape of you bragging about groping women comes out?"

or

"DJT, what is your plan to grow up in the next three weeks?"

or

"DJT, who have you kissed without waiting for permission?"

or

"DJT, who have you just 'grabbed by the pussy' and gotten away with it?"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 09 2016 20:03 GMT
#108171
On October 10 2016 04:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.

How can it not be the first question? It is the entire news cycle right now.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43737 Posts
October 09 2016 20:04 GMT
#108172
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
October 09 2016 20:05 GMT
#108173
On October 10 2016 04:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The first questions will apparently be about the tape and Clinton will answer first.

If Trump plays it cool he could always apologize and say he has reformed. I can only see him being baited by an assertion from Hillary and rants about how he actually loves women, or calls out Bill's infidelity.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 20:05:53
October 09 2016 20:05 GMT
#108174
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!

I'm not sure but his outrage just seems so fake here it's funny.

Would Cruz have actually won against Hillary though?
There is no one like you in the universe.
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-09 20:10:06
October 09 2016 20:06 GMT
#108175
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!


Do you remember when everyone thought Cruz was some kind of Republican Genius? A master debater even! Cruz is hands down the worst political strategist of our age.

Sucks up to Trump when he could be stopped.
Stands up to Trump AFTER the nomination.
Sucks up to Trump when the polls look okay.
Tries to wriggle out of sucking up two days after the tapes drop.

EDIT: do you remember Cruz's government shutdown? Where Obama said ... no ... and he got nothing? Such genius!
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 09 2016 20:06 GMT
#108176
On October 10 2016 05:05 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!

I'm not sure but his outrage just seems so fake here.

Would Cruz have actually won against Hillary though?


Any of the other candidates would have won.
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 09 2016 20:10 GMT
#108177
On October 10 2016 05:06 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 05:05 Blisse wrote:
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!

I'm not sure but his outrage just seems so fake here.

Would Cruz have actually won against Hillary though?


Any of the other candidates would have won.

That is totally not true. Cruz is as big of a shitlord as Trump and I am sure there is endless dirt on him too. The man is hated even within the GOP. Kasich might have done well, but even he would have a hard time pulling any minority groups or independent women.

The entire GOP line up this year was a dumpster fire.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
October 09 2016 20:11 GMT
#108178
On October 10 2016 05:10 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 05:06 biology]major wrote:
On October 10 2016 05:05 Blisse wrote:
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!

I'm not sure but his outrage just seems so fake here.

Would Cruz have actually won against Hillary though?


Any of the other candidates would have won.

That is totally not true. Cruz is as big of a shitlord as Trump and I am sure there is endless dirt on him too. The man is hated even within the GOP. Kasich might have done well, but even he would have a hard time pulling any minority groups or independent women.

The entire GOP line up this year was a dumpster fire.


This is still gold and holds up well a year later:

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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43737 Posts
October 09 2016 20:14 GMT
#108179
On October 10 2016 05:06 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 05:05 Blisse wrote:
On October 10 2016 05:04 KwarK wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

Cruz: Dude, I finally endorsed him a week ago. Do you have any idea how stupid this makes me look? Why the hell couldn't you release it earlier? I could have been President!

I'm not sure but his outrage just seems so fake here.

Would Cruz have actually won against Hillary though?


Any of the other candidates would have won.

Carson? Come on. Bush maybe, he appeared to be able to play the game well enough to appeal to the middle but there were some crazies in there. Carson and his pyramids weren't getting elected.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 09 2016 20:15 GMT
#108180
The real loser in all of this, is Bernie. He started a movement and sold out and lost to the very thing he was fighting against. Trump doesn't give a shit if he loses, he's still rich and is going to go into retirement, or start a new media empire. Bernie will be forgotten as a sellout, if he didn't endorse HRC though he would have been remembered.
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