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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 04:57:30
September 27 2016 04:56 GMT
#104301
On September 27 2016 13:52 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 13:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On September 27 2016 13:43 Chris1 wrote:
http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump faced off at their first presidential debate Monday. Who do you think won?
Hillary Clinton 40 %
Donald Trump 60 %
706k people reported voting


I am so shocked, either Donald Trump must have a botting server doing this for him, or I am closer to Satan, than the average person that supports Donald Trump.

i'm not although i dont doubt team hillary is doing the same
https://en.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/54oimr/time_wants_to_know_who_won_the_debates/


Yep, I agree with that guy... There was at many times that I saw missed opportunities. If you put my brain in Trump's body, but I was still in my room peacefully watching, I think I could have attacked and done a lot more damage than that.

The rambling without getting to any punchlines was so frustrating to watch.

From the second he said "Secretary Hillary Clinton, it's okay if I call you that? I want us all to be happy"... Just the way he said... It was all downhill from there imo. The Hillary fans have plenty of reason to celebrate today.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 05:15:29
September 27 2016 05:06 GMT
#104302
This debate just distilled and exposed Donald Trump for what he is - a candidate who is not serious. Hillary's "I planned" line says it all. Ultimately, Trump's TV shtick could not withstand a real debate requiring him to speak on substance and rebut arguments for 90 minutes. His pettiness, his bait grabbing, just prove that he's not serious. Hillary said one thing about his wealth and debt, and he went out of his way to talk about it. Hillary baited Trump into rambling down in the weeds about non-issues. Her strategy was to turn and stare at him while he failed at talking at length on precise topics, thereby exposing himself as empty.

It was said that she prepared for two Donald Trumps - one who was freewheeling and rally-esque, and one who was presidential and disciplined. They got the former, and she brought out the response and one-liners needed.

She overcame her lack of charisma by letting Trump talk aimlessly and take up time. Then she got in effective hits like "well to talk about some important issues he briefly touched on..." followed by some bare minimum of sustained intelligent commentary.

Trump was baited and then Hillary had prepared responses to his response to the bait. Hillary does have a brilliant team IMO.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 05:21:25
September 27 2016 05:17 GMT
#104303
The world of irony: imagine Hillary's email and foundation scandals against a candidate without decade long dirty business practice and proper economic knowledge and 9 times out of 10 she won't stand a chance.

People who sincerely root for Hillary make me wonder whether they understand how grateful they should really be to Donald Trump or not.




I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
September 27 2016 05:17 GMT
#104304
time polls have been known to get trolled
posting on liquid sites in current year
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 27 2016 05:18 GMT
#104305
Here's the media's top first reaction headlines,

Trump boasts at debate that he did ‘good job’ on birther issue

Trump avoids Bill Clinton’s scandals ‘out of respect for Chelsea’

Trump claims his ‘strongest asset’ is ‘my temperament’

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42631 Posts
September 27 2016 05:19 GMT
#104306
On September 27 2016 14:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
The world of irony: imagine Hillary's email and foundation scandals against a candidate without decade long dirty business practice and proper economic knowledge and 9 times out of 10 she won't stand a chance.







I think Jeb could have taken it, for all the hate his own base seem to have for him. They'd still support him over Hillary. More debates before this is over though. Still two more fucking months of elections.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
September 27 2016 05:23 GMT
#104307
On September 27 2016 14:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Here's the media's top first reaction headlines,

Trump boasts at debate that he did ‘good job’ on birther issue

Trump avoids Bill Clinton’s scandals ‘out of respect for Chelsea’

Trump claims his ‘strongest asset’ is ‘my temperament’



Why on earth would he say that his strongest asset is his temperament.

The polls are like 65-35 for Hillary on temperament for President. If that's his strongest asset, then what is even his weakest... So many of his responses were so... Bad.

From where I'm standing, this should be in the bag, even though ideologically, I agree with a lot on Trump. Not sure what the 2nd and 3rd debate can do, since I think with proper preparation and good points, he could easily run circles around Hillary, after seeing what she brought, but that's just me.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
September 27 2016 05:24 GMT
#104308
On September 27 2016 14:19 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 14:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
The world of irony: imagine Hillary's email and foundation scandals against a candidate without decade long dirty business practice and proper economic knowledge and 9 times out of 10 she won't stand a chance.







I think Jeb could have taken it, for all the hate his own base seem to have for him. They'd still support him over Hillary. More debates before this is over though. Still two more fucking months of elections.


Less than a month and a half, it's coming to a close soon (finally I'll have some more time)
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 27 2016 05:28 GMT
#104309
Saw this and thought it's worth sharing: http://imgur.com/gallery/k0KlE
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2016 05:29 GMT
#104310
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 05:36:58
September 27 2016 05:33 GMT
#104311
Senate votes on Wednesday on overriding Obamas veto on the 9/11 victims bill after it easily passed both houses a few weeks ago.Could be a big deal especially with Saudi threatening to sell treasury bonds if it is passed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44260 Posts
September 27 2016 05:39 GMT
#104312
On September 27 2016 14:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
The world of irony: imagine Hillary's email and foundation scandals against a candidate without decade long dirty business practice and proper economic knowledge and 9 times out of 10 she won't stand a chance.

People who sincerely root for Hillary make me wonder whether they understand how grateful they should really be to Donald Trump or not.


Trump's scandals are quantifiably much, much, much worse than Hillary's.

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 27 2016 05:40 GMT
#104313
On September 27 2016 14:28 BigFan wrote:
Saw this and thought it's worth sharing: http://imgur.com/gallery/k0KlE


legendary
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2016 05:40 GMT
#104314
Republican nominee Donald J. Trump complained in the spin room that his debate mic wasn't working right, according to a video posted by a CBS journalist.

"They gave me a defective mic!" he told reporters. "[I] wonder, was that on purpose?"

It wasn't the first time Trump suggested he was given a faulty microphone. At a January rally in Pensacola, Florida, he abruptly stopped mid-speech and said, "And by the way, I don't like this mic." He went on to call whoever installed it a "son of a b-----", and said, "George, don't pay him! I believe in paying, but when someone does a bad job, like this stupid mic, you shouldn't pay the bill."

In the debate, Clinton accused Trump of not paying several workers for their services. Trump did not dispute that, saying, "Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was unsatisfied with his work."

Trump has also said if he loses the election it's because the system is "rigged" against him.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44260 Posts
September 27 2016 05:43 GMT
#104315
On September 27 2016 14:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Republican nominee Donald J. Trump complained in the spin room that his debate mic wasn't working right, according to a video posted by a CBS journalist.

"They gave me a defective mic!" he told reporters. "[I] wonder, was that on purpose?"

It wasn't the first time Trump suggested he was given a faulty microphone. At a January rally in Pensacola, Florida, he abruptly stopped mid-speech and said, "And by the way, I don't like this mic." He went on to call whoever installed it a "son of a b-----", and said, "George, don't pay him! I believe in paying, but when someone does a bad job, like this stupid mic, you shouldn't pay the bill."

In the debate, Clinton accused Trump of not paying several workers for their services. Trump did not dispute that, saying, "Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was unsatisfied with his work."

Trump has also said if he loses the election it's because the system is "rigged" against him.


Source


So I guess for the 10 seconds that he wasn't interrupting Hillary, it wasn't out of respect for her- it was because his mic went off? lmao...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
September 27 2016 05:52 GMT
#104316
On September 27 2016 14:28 BigFan wrote:
Saw this and thought it's worth sharing: http://imgur.com/gallery/k0KlE

Ahah :-)
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3188 Posts
September 27 2016 05:57 GMT
#104317
On September 27 2016 14:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Republican nominee Donald J. Trump complained in the spin room that his debate mic wasn't working right, according to a video posted by a CBS journalist.

"They gave me a defective mic!" he told reporters. "[I] wonder, was that on purpose?"

It wasn't the first time Trump suggested he was given a faulty microphone. At a January rally in Pensacola, Florida, he abruptly stopped mid-speech and said, "And by the way, I don't like this mic." He went on to call whoever installed it a "son of a b-----", and said, "George, don't pay him! I believe in paying, but when someone does a bad job, like this stupid mic, you shouldn't pay the bill."

In the debate, Clinton accused Trump of not paying several workers for their services. Trump did not dispute that, saying, "Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was unsatisfied with his work."

Trump has also said if he loses the election it's because the system is "rigged" against him.


Source

Something something poor craftsmen, something something tools
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Chris1
Profile Joined July 2016
44 Posts
September 27 2016 05:58 GMT
#104318
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/financial-markets-say-clinton-beat-trump-in-the-debate-2016-09-26

http://ca.investing.com/commodities/gold

Gold is the investors safe haven so it should rise for a Trump potus and fall for a Hilary, atleast according to some experts.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 27 2016 06:07 GMT
#104319
On September 27 2016 14:23 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 14:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Here's the media's top first reaction headlines,

Trump boasts at debate that he did ‘good job’ on birther issue

Trump avoids Bill Clinton’s scandals ‘out of respect for Chelsea’

Trump claims his ‘strongest asset’ is ‘my temperament’



Why on earth would he say that his strongest asset is his temperament.

The polls are like 65-35 for Hillary on temperament for President. If that's his strongest asset, then what is even his weakest... So many of his responses were so... Bad.

This is the man that will hound after anyone saying he has small hands.

The man can't stand anyone claiming he's inadequate at anything.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 06:15:42
September 27 2016 06:11 GMT
#104320
From an outside view looking in, I would call the debate anything from "A slight Clinton win" to "Trump's campaign Armageddon"

Considering this presidential campaign though. I wouldn't be surprised if the headlines were "Trump secures Presidency". Everything is bass ackwards
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