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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 03:27 GMT
#104221
On September 27 2016 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Wops, not party for Trump. He clearly needs a safe space to recover.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9244 Posts
September 27 2016 03:28 GMT
#104222
On September 27 2016 12:25 Plansix wrote:
Trump just denied he said "that makes me smart" for not paying taxes. Bro, 11 million people just watched you do it.

I've lost count how many times he denied something he said either on tv or on twitter, he's struggling with the concept of recording and storing information
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2016 03:29 GMT
#104223
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
September 27 2016 03:29 GMT
#104224
This election should not be this close. Yet it is.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 03:29 GMT
#104225
On September 27 2016 12:28 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:25 Plansix wrote:
Trump just denied he said "that makes me smart" for not paying taxes. Bro, 11 million people just watched you do it.

I've lost count how many times he denied something he said either on tv or on twitter, he's struggling with the concept of recording and storing information

Like the part where he started to talk about buisness and how much he was leveraged like a 18 year old explaining his top new buisness plan to get rich by 25.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 03:30 GMT
#104226
On September 27 2016 12:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/TerryMoran/status/780608856758116352

FUCK, she does not give a fuck any more. Damn child.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
September 27 2016 03:31 GMT
#104227
On September 27 2016 11:49 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Sad thing is, these debates are not going to even matter at all in terms of swaying voters


I'm sure they will.


There are a lot of people who are on the fence. Might seem hard to believe, but if you're in a swing state, there's a lot of distaste for both candidates.

Good news for Hillary is I think she gave people a lot of reasons to like her in terms of demeanor, poise, and knowledge. She was awkward a couple of times but she nailed it more. And she managed to articulate a lot of nuanced, intelligent positions on the whole range of issues that Lester Holt brought up. Trump had to change the subject several times, Clinton had the know-how to stay on topic.

Trump was kind of coherent on trade, which is definitely a core issue for swing state voters, so that's okay for him. The problem is that he didn't show any concern for unions or other systems that exist to ensure that workers are actually earning a living. No guarantee he wouldn't support so-called "right to work" legislation, which actually makes it possible foreign contractors to come in and underbid for specific contracts.

Which brings up the bigger issue with him: he uses buzzwords to communicate the sentiment, but he has no actually substantive suggestions. As the evening wore on, that became more and more apparent. The questions were specific, and in order to answer them, he had to BS; he took several steps either sideways or backwards to make vaguer, more general statements just to have something to say. Hillary started out doing something similar, but even when the questions got tougher, she could give a specific, detailed answer without flying off course.

I actually think Holt did okay; he couldn't stop either candidate from going on and I'm not sure anyone can keep Trump on topic, but for the most part, he didn't let unanswered questions lie.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 27 2016 03:32 GMT
#104228
On September 27 2016 12:29 acker wrote:
This election should not be this close. Yet it is.

The unpredictable effect of both candidates being butt fucking terrible.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 27 2016 03:32 GMT
#104229
hillary shows up to a debate watching party
high energy?
© Current year.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 27 2016 03:33 GMT
#104230
On September 27 2016 12:23 Doodsmack wrote:


But people discussing Hillary's health are crazy conspiracy theorist
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 27 2016 03:33 GMT
#104231
On September 27 2016 12:32 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:29 acker wrote:
This election should not be this close. Yet it is.

The unpredictable effect of both candidates being butt fucking terrible.


Let's wait and see if there's a bounce. I can't imagine there won't be.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2016 03:34 GMT
#104232
Clinton just repeating Sander talking points for post debate rallies.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 27 2016 03:34 GMT
#104233
On September 27 2016 12:33 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:23 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456


But people discussing Hillary's health are crazy conspiracy theorist


Surely you okay with Trump having to take what he dishes out.

How many drinks of water did he take again?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 27 2016 03:35 GMT
#104234
CNN poll said 62% thought Clinton won, 27% Trump.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 27 2016 03:35 GMT
#104235
On September 27 2016 12:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Clinton just repeating Sander talking points for post debate rallies.

I actually don't see the problem with this
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
September 27 2016 03:36 GMT
#104236
On September 27 2016 12:32 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:29 acker wrote:
This election should not be this close. Yet it is.

The unpredictable effect of both candidates being butt fucking terrible.


This is really bottomless relativism. The candidates and platforms aren't comparable, and it really showed during the debate.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 03:36 GMT
#104237
On September 27 2016 12:33 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:23 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456


But people discussing Hillary's health are crazy conspiracy theorist


If you think most of the people talking about Trump's wacky sniffing aren't doing it to point out how silly and asinine it is to talk about stuff like that, you're nuts.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 27 2016 03:36 GMT
#104238
By comparison, the same poll for the first 2012 debate had Romney at 67%, Obama at 25%.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24334 Posts
September 27 2016 03:37 GMT
#104239
On September 27 2016 12:33 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 12:23 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456


But people discussing Hillary's health are crazy conspiracy theorist


lol. Dean really went there. I mean I thought about it too, dismissed it, then noticed him doing what looked like the gack back a couple times.

Seems out of place for Dean to say, but if he worked for me I'd consider dropping some "random" drug tests after that.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2016 03:38 GMT
#104240
Breaking FARC signs peace deal:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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