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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#104001
On September 27 2016 11:28 acker wrote:
"China should go into North Korea." (Trump) (Obviously)

I can't believe this isn't the most controversial statement from this debate, but it's not even in the top five.

I didn't notice that one; it's hard to keep track of every dumb thing trump says.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104002
On September 27 2016 11:28 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.


Unless everyone is watching the NFL, they should be able to see that he lost this debate handily.


The best part is not only has he lost but there is so much more she can hit him with next time to compound the loss even further. He not only lost but has lost so badly she can spend all next debate hitting him with him stupidity from this one.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104003
On September 27 2016 11:29 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Why on earth do we need more bombers? Bombers are dinosaurs man. God he's clueless on everything

I guess he's recalling back to when he was a child and before ICBMs existed.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104004
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.


Having watched the Republican debates this is a world of difference
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:30:35
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104005
On September 27 2016 11:27 On_Slaught wrote:
There is zero percent chance Trump knows what the moderator means by Obama's first use policy.


He responded well but it just doesn't sound like he knows what the First Use Policy is.
There is no one like you in the universe.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:30:47
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104006
South Korea and Japan would literally riot over China invading NK. Especially South Korea, China's been laying the groundwork to annex parts of NK for years.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23218 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104007
On September 27 2016 11:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:23 Blisse wrote:
Hillary's fact checking website is so shit

Like learn to make a fucking presentable website you dumb shits, it's literally the fate of the next 4 years in the USA and it's an incoherent mess

It's not that bad, but it could easily be much better.


Was this intentional?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104008
I really wish Clinton would mention the whole "Japan only has a self-defense force" it would really validate the learning I did from my anime
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#104009
On September 27 2016 11:27 On_Slaught wrote:
There is zero percent chance Trump knows what the moderator means by Obama's first use policy.

Not a lot of people do.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104010
On September 27 2016 11:29 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:28 acker wrote:
"China should go into North Korea." (Trump) (Obviously)

I can't believe this isn't the most controversial statement from this debate, but it's not even in the top five.

I didn't notice that one; it's hard to keep track of every dumb thing trump says.


I don't think that is a stupid quote. North Korea is pure evil, and China is the only one supporting them. China should absolutely do more to stop the DPRK.

Also worst deal every negotiated? Iran deal or NAFTA?
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15684 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104011
Trump is getting truly mauled. Wow.
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104012
I really dislike Hillary Clinton and think she is full of it, but she is actually coming out better on NATO and our Pacific allies. Trump is coming across as a non-interventionist lunatic who doesn't understand how foreign policy works. Very disappointed in Trump.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104013
For those who cite Politifact as a reliable source:
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"My spoon is too big."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104014
On September 27 2016 11:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 Adreme wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How the fuck did this guy get nominated for candidate republicans pls

he's highly polarizing; people either love him or hate him. It was a field of 17 candidates; so a bland medium candidate that everyone could accept had no chance, since people could only vote for 1 person, they'd vote for the person they liked most.

The real question is how is he close in the polls?


She went down. He didnt really go up. It reminds me of that Obama slide after the 1st debate with Romney. Nobody really decided to vote for Romney it just gave them pause about voting for Obama but they were never going to vote for Romney so he just had to win them back which she is kinda doing right now.

Clinton has the same poll % as she did one year ago. Trump has gone up very slightly. Both of them have gone up and down very rapidly during that time.


2 months ago after the conventions when people watched both of them speak she was up 10 points. Then 2 months of nothing happened and people only watched headlines and they became less sure but that support is still there for her and that will likely be the final numbers for the election.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104015
On September 27 2016 11:30 acker wrote:
South Korea and Japan would literally riot over China invading NK. Especially South Korea, China's been laying the groundwork to annex parts of NK for years.

how so? for the most part china doens't want NK. that place is a mess.
frankly, I think everyone would be happy with china invading NK, cuz it means we don't have to deal with NK.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104016
On September 27 2016 11:29 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:28 acker wrote:
"China should go into North Korea." (Trump) (Obviously)

I can't believe this isn't the most controversial statement from this debate, but it's not even in the top five.

I didn't notice that one; it's hard to keep track of every dumb thing trump says.


I wanted to give him credit and meant "go" as in influence them, pressure them, not invade them.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 02:31 GMT
#104017
Ok so Hillary slaughtered Trump tonight. How long until she pisses it away?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 27 2016 02:32 GMT
#104018
To everyone who commented on my public question, I think you are vastly overestimating people lol. Even if he is more flustered, his rhetoric is still the same so I don't think this will bring him down that much tbh.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:32:46
September 27 2016 02:32 GMT
#104019
On September 27 2016 11:31 Monochromatic wrote:
I don't think that is a stupid quote. North Korea is pure evil, and China is the only one supporting them. China should absolutely do more to stop the DPRK.

Also worst deal every negotiated? Iran deal or NAFTA?

There's a difference between diplomacy and invasion. One leads to Seoul shelled before the Kims go, and the other doesn't.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 02:32 GMT
#104020
On September 27 2016 11:31 Netscape9 wrote:
I really dislike Hillary Clinton and think she is full of it, but she is actually coming out better on NATO and our Pacific allies. Trump is coming across as a non-interventionist lunatic who doesn't understand how foreign policy works. Very disappointed in Trump.

that's because he's a lunatic who does'nt udnerstand foreign policy works; which he's been demonstrating for many many months now.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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