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Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103981
We shouldn't ask our allies to pay for our mutual defense agreements. America should be a guardian of democracy and freedom in the world and work to improve our relationships with our allies. Trump is really losing my sympathy for him here.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:28:12
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103982
On September 27 2016 11:24 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:23 Plansix wrote:
I need another glass of JD.


Dude I wish I still drank right about now. Holy shit.

He is going into the payment thing. Paying for defense. Does he not understand how alliances works?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103983
On September 27 2016 11:26 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How the fuck did this guy get nominated for candidate republicans pls

he's highly polarizing; people either love him or hate him. It was a field of 17 candidates; so a bland medium candidate that everyone could accept had no chance, since people could only vote for 1 person, they'd vote for the person they liked most.

The real question is how is he close in the polls?


Before the debate, I'd give him a small advantage. Now, he's dead.

He was even doing OK for the first ~5 minutes. Then he collapsed. Oh, and he's interrupting the moderator insanely often.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103984
If anyone wants to call Sean Hannity..

[image loading]
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103985
On September 27 2016 11:26 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How the fuck did this guy get nominated for candidate republicans pls

he's highly polarizing; people either love him or hate him. It was a field of 17 candidates; so a bland medium candidate that everyone could accept had no chance, since people could only vote for 1 person, they'd vote for the person they liked most.

The real question is how is he close in the polls?


She went down. He didnt really go up. It reminds me of that Obama slide after the 1st debate with Romney. Nobody really decided to vote for Romney it just gave them pause about voting for Obama but they were never going to vote for Romney so he just had to win them back which she is kinda doing right now.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:28:02
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103986
On September 27 2016 11:26 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How the fuck did this guy get nominated for candidate republicans pls

he's highly polarizing; people either love him or hate him. It was a field of 17 candidates; so a bland medium candidate that everyone could accept had no chance, since people could only vote for 1 person, they'd vote for the person they liked most.

The real question is how is he close in the polls?

some people consider hillary to be incredibly and profoundly corrupt, and responsible for a whole lot of bad stuff.
also, partisanship and stupid.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#103987
There is zero percent chance Trump knows what the moderator means by Obama's first use policy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103988
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103989
On September 27 2016 11:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Better make Japan pay us to protect them when we made them sign a treaty making it literally impossible for them to have an army

That's good business.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103990
On September 27 2016 11:27 Rebs wrote:
If anyone wants to call Sean Hannity..

[image loading]


ROFL well played
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Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103991
On September 27 2016 11:27 On_Slaught wrote:
There is zero percent chance Trump knows what the moderator means by Obama's first use policy.


I think Trump actually responded to the first use policy well. Keep all of our options on the table.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:29:14
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103992
"China should go into North Korea." (Trump) (Obviously)

I can't believe this isn't the most controversial statement from this debate, but it's not even in the top five.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103993
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.


Unless everyone is watching the NFL, they should be able to see that he lost this debate handily.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:30:37
September 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#103994
I think this might be the first time I see a dumpster fire go nuclear, how the fuck does that even happen
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#103995
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.


This is the first time a lot of them REALLY start paying attention to what they say outside of headlines. Before that it was just whoever had the worst headline of the day. Now that he is truly being shown for what he is I cant imagine anyone saying "I support that"
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#103996
On September 27 2016 11:27 Netscape9 wrote:
We shouldn't ask our allies to pay for our mutual defense agreements. America should be a guardian of democracy and freedom in the world and work to improve our relationships with our allies. Trump is really losing my sympathy for him here.

It's also a blatant falsehood.

IIRC US bases in Germany and Japan, for instance, are in part subsidized by the host countries at near half-cost of the deployment (vs domestic deployment).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#103997
Why on earth do we need more bombers? Bombers are dinosaurs man. God he's clueless on everything
LiquidDota Staff
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#103998
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.


This isn't normal. He is a lot more flustered than usual.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#103999
On September 27 2016 11:28 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:27 KwarK wrote:
She is smashing him so hard. He lost control completely.

question is, will the public see that? He's talking the same way he's always been doing so far.

I can't see any undecided seeing this and being excited about Trump.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:30:12
September 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#104000
On September 27 2016 11:27 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
On September 27 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
How the fuck did this guy get nominated for candidate republicans pls

he's highly polarizing; people either love him or hate him. It was a field of 17 candidates; so a bland medium candidate that everyone could accept had no chance, since people could only vote for 1 person, they'd vote for the person they liked most.

The real question is how is he close in the polls?


She went down. He didnt really go up. It reminds me of that Obama slide after the 1st debate with Romney. Nobody really decided to vote for Romney it just gave them pause about voting for Obama but they were never going to vote for Romney so he just had to win them back which she is kinda doing right now.

Clinton has the same poll % as she did one year ago. Trump has gone up very slightly. Both of them have gone up and down very rapidly during that time.
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