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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 27 2016 02:36 GMT
#104041
Women don't deserve equal pay if they don't do equal work...

I don't understand Hillary's point?
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 27 2016 02:36 GMT
#104042
On September 27 2016 11:33 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 11:33 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I can't tell if this whole "my plan is secret" thing is intelligent or just plain stupid

take the oil and cut off the money
that was his plan

When you think about it that's pretty much what you have to do. Cut off their resources and stop them from having the tools they need to fight.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 27 2016 02:36 GMT
#104043
On September 27 2016 11:36 nafta wrote:
AND THE SEXIST CARD IS DROPPED AYY LMAO

deplorables tbh
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
September 27 2016 02:36 GMT
#104044
On September 27 2016 11:36 nafta wrote:
AND THE SEXIST CARD IS DROPPED AYY LMAO

Fortunately, it's indefensible by Trump.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 02:36 GMT
#104045
LMAO Trump stopped saying "I didn't say that" after she started talking about the Miss Piggy thing so I guess he DID say that
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104046
Trump strawmanned his own quote against Hillary to try to make a good point about her stamina (instead of his sexist comment about her looks), and then Hillary wrecked him on the crazy ass shit she's had to put up with stamina-wise, and then on top of that she pointed out his sexism. Double-wrecked.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104047
Lol Trump just stop you are not helping yourself.
Never Knows Best.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:38:38
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104048
I love when we call someone sexist because they say something negative about a woman, especially when that person says negative things about men all the time....it would be more sexist if he only said things about the males and tried to be "clean" when talking about women..

On September 27 2016 11:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Trump strawmanned his own quote against Hillary to try to make a good point about her stamina (instead of his sexist comment about her looks), and then Hillary wrecked him on the crazy ass shit she's had to put up with stamina-wise, and then on top of that she pointed out his sexism. Double-wrecked.


Like how is that sexist at all, he could have been talking about her short stature, but because the person receiving the insult is a woman we jump to the conclusion that it has be for sexist reasons.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104049
On September 27 2016 11:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
LMAO Trump stopped saying "I didn't say that" after she started talking about the Miss Piggy thing so I guess he DID say that


You think he was going "OH RIGHT HER....crap..."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104050
Trump sounds like a baby.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104051
I expected all of this and I still cant believe it.
Skol
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:39:17
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104052
On September 27 2016 11:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Women don't deserve equal pay if they don't do equal work...

I don't understand Hillary's point?


I honestly think she mis-spoke there. I can't see her actually saying that word for word.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104053
On September 27 2016 11:35 CorsairHero wrote:
barely anything on emails
ggtemplar is not pleased

Trump took up all the things time with his rambling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
September 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#104054
Kudos to Hillary for enduring this alternate-reality shit for 2 hours.
Stamina, indeed.
Big water
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:38:54
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104055
On September 27 2016 11:31 Antyee wrote:
For those who cite Politifact as a reliable source:
+ Show Spoiler +
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The first one is 100% accurate. Crime hasn't been rising at all except for this one year.

The point of the second one is that the number cited is misleading. See the paragraphs directly below:
• The number refers to "potential" jobs lost, not actual jobs lost. This is an important point that would not be obvious from the way Trump phrased his statement. By leaving the impression that these were actual jobs lost, Trump’s statistic invites a degree of outrage that isn’t warranted.

...

• The number doesn’t reflect that coal is increasingly being replaced by natural gas. Trump’s decision to use this number tells only part of the story of how the electricity sector has been developing.



The third one is just wrong because Sanders was talking about a small section of African-Americans. It even says so in the title.
"For young people who have graduated high school or dropped out of high school, who are between the ages of 17 and 20, if they happen to be white, the unemployment rate is 33 percent," he said. "If they are Hispanic, the unemployment rate is 36 percent. If they are African-American, the real unemployment rate for young people is 51 percent."

Meanwhile, with Trump, he was counting people not looking for work as unemployed which is misleading.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104056
On September 27 2016 11:36 nafta wrote:
AND THE SEXIST CARD IS DROPPED AYY LMAO


The question was about Trump's sexism, Trump tried to dodge (and failed miserably) and Hillary wrecked him appropriately.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104057
Did Clinton bring up Trump University and his foundation?
Never Knows Best.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104058
Lester Holt is such a wuss. Do your job or find someone who will.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 09:23:39
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104059
On September 27 2016 11:31 Antyee wrote:
For those who cite Politifact as a reliable source:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]


I would judge as they did on the quoted passages. Seems fine to me.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24059 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:39:05
September 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#104060
On September 27 2016 11:37 Chewbacca. wrote:
I love when we call someone sexist because they say something negative about a woman, especially when that person says negative things about men all the time....it would be more sexist if he only said things about the males and tried to be "clean" when talking about women..


Yeah Trump may appeal to sexist rhetoric, but it would be sexist if he didn't insult her, including petty things like her looks.

That said, he's sexist.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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