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One day after a scathing editorial that declared Donald Trump unfit to serve as president, the Dallas Morning News has officially endorsed Hillary Clinton — the first time in more than 75 years that the newspaper has backed a Democrat for president.
“There is only one serious candidate on the presidential ballot in November,” the paper said on Wednesday. “We recommend Hillary Clinton.
“We don’t come to this decision easily,” the editorial board continued. “This newspaper has not recommended a Democrat for the nation’s highest office since before World War II — if you’re counting, that’s more than 75 years and nearly 20 elections. The party’s over-reliance on government and regulation to remedy the country’s ills is at odds with our belief in private-sector ingenuity and innovation. Our values are more about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense.”
But unlike Trump, Clinton has “experience in actual governance, a record of service and a willingness to delve into real policy.”
Yahoo
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On September 08 2016 01:06 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +One day after a scathing editorial that declared Donald Trump unfit to serve as president, the Dallas Morning News has officially endorsed Hillary Clinton — the first time in more than 75 years that the newspaper has backed a Democrat for president.
“There is only one serious candidate on the presidential ballot in November,” the paper said on Wednesday. “We recommend Hillary Clinton.
“We don’t come to this decision easily,” the editorial board continued. “This newspaper has not recommended a Democrat for the nation’s highest office since before World War II — if you’re counting, that’s more than 75 years and nearly 20 elections. The party’s over-reliance on government and regulation to remedy the country’s ills is at odds with our belief in private-sector ingenuity and innovation. Our values are more about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense.”
But unlike Trump, Clinton has “experience in actual governance, a record of service and a willingness to delve into real policy.” Yahoo
Any Texans wanna weigh in on if this means anything?
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MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries.
Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit
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On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit
Pretty stupid move by pena nieto. Can't imagine what he ever hoped to get out of the meeting.
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On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit
Looks like he isn't interested in making America (and Mexico) great again.
So are we all in agreement now that Trump's Mexico trip was a huge success?
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On September 08 2016 01:40 Plansix wrote:
Define success.
The guy (and possibly the only guy in Mexico) who allegedly thought it would be a good idea to cosy up to Drumpf was forced to leave his job.
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On September 08 2016 01:39 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit Looks like he isn't interested in making America (and Mexico) great again. So are we all in agreement now that Trump's Mexico trip was a huge success?
Given that my definition of "success" doesn't include torpedoing the political careers of leaders of neighboring countries, nope.
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On September 08 2016 01:43 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2016 01:39 xDaunt wrote:On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit Looks like he isn't interested in making America (and Mexico) great again. So are we all in agreement now that Trump's Mexico trip was a huge success? Given that my definition of "success" doesn't include torpedoing the political careers of leaders of neighboring countries, nope.
I'm severely disappointed in you. I didn't think that you'd sink to a Plansix level.
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On September 08 2016 01:42 Rebs wrote:The guy (and possibly the only guy in Mexico) who allegedly thought it would be a good idea to cosy up to Drumpf was forced to leave his job.
And Trump might have convinced a couple white suburban voters that he isn't racist after all. Unless they watched the follow up speech, that might change their view.
On September 08 2016 01:44 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2016 01:43 farvacola wrote:On September 08 2016 01:39 xDaunt wrote:On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit Looks like he isn't interested in making America (and Mexico) great again. So are we all in agreement now that Trump's Mexico trip was a huge success? Given that my definition of "success" doesn't include torpedoing the political careers of leaders of neighboring countries, nope. I'm severely disappointed in you. I didn't think that you'd sink to a Plansix level.
You left us open to define success, which leads to these types of responses. You got to use those words to say what you mean.
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Tells you what the citizens of that country think of Trump. Leaders who cozy to Trump will be ousted. Interesting.
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On September 08 2016 01:44 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2016 01:43 farvacola wrote:On September 08 2016 01:39 xDaunt wrote:On September 08 2016 01:18 farvacola wrote:MEXICO CITY—Mexican Finance Minister Luis Videgaray, seen as the right-hand man to President Enrique Peña Nieto, has resigned and will be replaced by a former finance chief José Antonio Meade.
Mr. Videgaray’s resignation comes less than a week after a controversial visit to Mexico by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump, which was widely seen as a humiliation for Mexico and its president. Multiple local media reports said the invitation to Mr. Trump was Mr. Videgaray’s idea, a claim disputed by him as well as Mr. Peña Nieto.
Mr. Videgaray, a former investment banker and state finance official, won't take a public post for the time being, Finance Ministry spokeswoman Claudia Algorri said.
The economist with a doctorate from MIT was widely seen as the brains behind the Mexican president and the driving force behind a series of high-profile reforms in the past few years that includes opening Mexico’s closed oil industry to private investment for the first time since 1938.
“He’s leaving with a superb track record on reforms, and will be remembered as one of the main architects of the reform efforts going back to 2013,” said Alonso Cervera, Credit Suisse’s chief Latin America economist.
Mr. Videgaray’s departure will be a blow to Mr. Peña Nieto, who has relied on Mr. Videgaray as his leading adviser since the president rose to national prominence as governor of the State of Mexico, said Jesus Silva Herzog, a prominent Mexican political analyst.
But in the past two years, Mr. Videgaray has come under fire for tepid growth in the Mexican economy, even as the government ran slightly bigger deficits and added to public debt. He also rankled Mexico’s business class by hiking taxes. While he was widely admired outside Mexico, at home he was criticized for being arrogant.
The 47-year-old Mr. Meade has degrees in law and economics, and a doctorate in economics from Yale University and has a long history of working in government.
He was finance minister from 2011 to 2012 under former President Felipe Calderón, and had previously been Mr. Calderon’s energy minister. Under Mr. Peña Nieto he has been foreign minister and minister for social development.
“His previous tenure was solid, without being extraordinary. He’s seen as very orthodox, which is a good thing given rising debt and the need for a budget adjustment,” said Oscar Vera, a leading Mexican economist.
Mr. Meade’s return to a key post in Mexican politics could make him a possible contender for the presidency in 2018 for the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, analysts said.
For Mr. Videgaray, 48, the end came only days after a surprise visit to Mexico by Mr. Trump last week. The visit was widely seen as a disaster for Mr. Peña Nieto, who was criticized for not demanding Mr. Trump apologize for his outspoken remarks over the past 18 months about Mexico and Mexican immigrants to the U.S.
For his part, Mr. Trump has claimed the visit was a great success, and repeated his claim that Mexico will pay for an eventual border wall between both countries. Mexico’s Finance Minister Resigns in Wake of Trump Visit Looks like he isn't interested in making America (and Mexico) great again. So are we all in agreement now that Trump's Mexico trip was a huge success? Given that my definition of "success" doesn't include torpedoing the political careers of leaders of neighboring countries, nope. I'm severely disappointed in you. I didn't think that you'd sink to a Plansix level.
It's neither Plansix's nor my fault that you know nothing about Mexican politics nor foreign policy in general, constant bluster to the contrary notwithstanding. Everyone political who Trump touches begins to suffer. That is not success.
I'll add that if you think Nieto's replacement, should the fallout continue to roll downhill, will be more friendly to American interests, I've got a wonderful bridge to sell you.
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Ok, let's try again:
Everyone agrees that Trump's Mexico trip has been a huge political success for Trump?
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Ok, so once again, you need to define "political success". What was the goal of the trip and did is accomplish said goal? And if it did, at what cost? Success is a vague term in politics, especially when running for office.
If I had to take a holistic view, I would call the term neutral. It didn't do any harm, but I don't really know if it helped at all or changed any minds.
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Eh, it might not be an unmitigated disaster, but I've seen plenty of legitimate criticism of it. In the short term it was a success, sure, but longer term it may play into the narrative that he's reckless
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On September 08 2016 01:50 xDaunt wrote:
Ok, let's try again:
Everyone agrees that Trump's Mexico trip has been a huge political success for Trump?
No, what was successful? That he waited until he was back home before putting his foot back in his mouth?
If it was the cornerstone of a pivot to softer immigration stance then yeah you might have a point but it clearly wasn't.
So I ask you. What do you think was successful about it?
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The image of him standing at a lectern with a foreign leader was good for him. Considering that image in the context of his speech and the reaction of Mexico tempers the success of the image. It takes quite a theory to posit that Trump would achieve policy success with Mexico, given the prevailing opinion of the people of Mexico (a democracy).
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BTW arguing about definitions is pretty much capitulation in an online argument. (According to a source p6 loves, Scott Adams)
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Serves me right for giving any of y'all the benefit of the doubt.
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On September 08 2016 01:50 xDaunt wrote:
Ok, let's try again:
Everyone agrees that Trump's Mexico trip has been a huge political success for Trump?
You bolded the wrong part. But yeah, for Trump it might have been a success. Although I am still not sure what it means in terms of the election, if your "superpower" is to have potential foreign allies get removed from power to be replaced by people less friendly. I would think it might be problematic from a foreign policy point of view. But maybe it will convince the US electorate. It has clearly convinced you...
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