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good god man, it's like you don't know how to internet or something.
I mean she's not as petty with her lies as Trump usually, but it's starting to look crazy to pretend that she's a shining example of truth and honesty.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but does the Clinton foundation list Bill and Chelsea as "independent" board members?
good god man, it's like you don't know how to internet or something.
I mean she's not as petty with her lies as Trump usually, but it's starting to look crazy to pretend that she's a shining example of truth and honesty.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but does the Clinton foundation list Bill and Chelsea as "independent" board members?
good god man, it's like you don't know how to internet or something.
I mean she's not as petty with her lies as Trump usually, but it's starting to look crazy to pretend that she's a shining example of truth and honesty.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but does the Clinton foundation list Bill and Chelsea as "independent" board members?
i recommend you look up what independent in this context means.
hint: it says at the bottom of the page
Oh I'm aware what it means. I was just making sure that's what they were saying.
Honest question, do you think they follow the letter or the spirit of those rules?
Which rules (or which spirit) do you think they do not follow, and what would be the importance of that?
I am far from an expert in such things but it doesn't seem to me like it would be particularly unusual for members of a board to have some relationship outside their professional one, which seems to be all you've accused them of so far.
good god man, it's like you don't know how to internet or something.
I mean she's not as petty with her lies as Trump usually, but it's starting to look crazy to pretend that she's a shining example of truth and honesty.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but does the Clinton foundation list Bill and Chelsea as "independent" board members?
On September 07 2016 06:04 xDaunt wrote: That's actually a good, detailed plan for how to make Mexico pay for the wall.
In the year 2016, xDaunt calls controlling Western Union wire transfers via the PATRIOT act in order to make the Mexican government pay for a border wall a good plan. Shark has been jumped.
I'm not sure if the plan consists of using the patriot act (my own ignorance is to blame here), but it is amusing to me that having future governments abuse it in ways that it was not intended was one of the objections at the time of its introduction, and the principle argument against it was that "it would never happen" lel
of course i can already hear the counter argument "it was intended for exactly this!"
On September 07 2016 05:14 KwarK wrote: Trump has a stance on the environment, he thinks it was something made up by the Chinese to make American manufacturing less competitive. Never mind that you can't fucking breathe the air in some Chinese cities.
And you can't drink the water in vast swathes of the USA that have been fracked. Ever watched the doco gasland? The tapwater in many of those homes is flammable! All under the Obama administration.
On September 07 2016 05:14 KwarK wrote: Trump has a stance on the environment, he thinks it was something made up by the Chinese to make American manufacturing less competitive. Never mind that you can't fucking breathe the air in some Chinese cities.
And you can't drink the water in vast swathes of the USA that have been fracked. Ever watched the doco gasland? The tapwater in many of those homes is flammable! All under the Obama administration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBjSXWQRV8
Not to say this is in any way a good thing (I am against fracking for environmental reasons, although I think the safety could be resolved with good regulations), but in what world would a GOP candidate have advocated regulating the fracking industry?
In fact, Trump's stance on fracking is that we need to get rid of any incentives for solar or wind power, and that would lead to fracking being even more economically viable.
Am I the only one who sees that he is only showing pages with like 30 charities, half of them with no response, two of them with "yes", notice that he chooses a date range to exclude these, and puts "lately" in his sentence...implying that at the start of the list (which he doesn't show pictures of) there were cobfirmations of donations...
All these things together and it makes me wonder if he is making a true statement, but is hiding data/presenting it in a way that makes Trump look bad, when if you had the whole set it wouldn't look nearly as bad.
Am I the only one who sees that he is only showing pages with like 30 charities, half of them with no response, two of them with "yes", notice that he chooses a date range to exclude these, and puts "lately" in his sentence...implying that at the start of the list (which he doesn't show pictures of) there were cobfirmations of donations...
All these things together and it makes me wonder if he is making a true statement, but is hiding data/presenting it in a way that makes Trump look bad, when if you had the whole set it wouldn't look nearly as bad.
Nope your not the only one. Stuff like this is mostly pointless without showing the whole set and even then it doesnt have to mean much since I believe charities are not required to list their donors?
Would be much easier if we simply had Trumps tax returns but he will likely never show those.
Unfortunately cherrypicking is the new way to communicate negative information. It's pretty sad people would bother doing it when you really don't have to cherrypick/take Trump out of context to make him look truly ridiculous and/or asinine.
good god man, it's like you don't know how to internet or something.
I mean she's not as petty with her lies as Trump usually, but it's starting to look crazy to pretend that she's a shining example of truth and honesty.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but does the Clinton foundation list Bill and Chelsea as "independent" board members?
i recommend you look up what independent in this context means.
hint: it says at the bottom of the page
Oh I'm aware what it means. I was just making sure that's what they were saying.
Honest question, do you think they follow the letter or the spirit of those rules?
the rules are pretty clear cut. let me ask you this: have you ever filed taxes or any other IRS/government-type form? there are very clear instructions on what to do and how each box is calculated from other boxes.
you're about half a step from arguing if 1+1 = 2, and you probably would be if that came out of clinton's mouth at this point.
It's starting to look like obstruction of justice.
"Cable signed Clinton", what does that even mean? Are they saying Clinton signed an email as "C", meaning she has designated classified documents as classified?
The SOS, SoD and other public figures sign thousands of documents during their terms. Finding a bunch that are marked classified is not a huge shocker.
On September 07 2016 22:13 TheTenthDoc wrote: Unfortunately cherrypicking is the new way to communicate negative information. It's pretty sad people would bother doing it when you really don't have to cherrypick/take Trump out of context to make him look truly ridiculous and/or asinine.
This has been going on for ages. Information communicated with an agenda in mind will quite often be obfuscated (am I using that word right?) with the intent of warping the mind of the person receiving the information. This happens everywhere all the time, but it is especially prevalent from people who have been trained to convince/argue/debate such as lawyers and people involved in marketing. Two professions that I thoroughly dislike for this very reason.
Just list the facts as completely as possible and allow people to draw their own conclusions. Sigh.
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