Vicente Fox blasted Trump today and then Trump said on Twitter that Fox invited him to visit last year. Smart money is on that being a lie from Trump...
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Doodsmack
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Vicente Fox blasted Trump today and then Trump said on Twitter that Fox invited him to visit last year. Smart money is on that being a lie from Trump... | ||
Doodsmack
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On August 31 2016 23:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Waiting for this to show up on the front page of Yahoo and CNN... | ||
Doodsmack
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[I]n the two weeks since Bannon took the helm, Trump’s campaign has been rocked by a string of allegations against the media firebrand, including a decades-old domestic-abuse charge. And the bad press isn’t stopping. The latest of Bannon’s past transgressions to come to light is a comment he made in a five-year-old interview, in which he calls progressive women “dykes.” In a 2011 radio interview with Political Vindication Radio, Bannon said that conservative women—such as Ann Coulter, Michele Bachmann, and Sarah Palin—are an “existential threat to the progressive narrative” and as a result “there are some unintended consequences of the women’s liberation movement. That, in fact, the women that would lead this country would be pro-family, they would have husbands, they would love their children,” he said, as BuzzFeed News first reported. “They wouldn’t be a bunch of dykes that came from the Seven Sisters schools up in New England. That drives the left insane and that’s why they hate these women,” Bannon continued. [...] As Bannon’s past has come back to haunt him, the Trump campaign has begun to distance itself from the chief executive. When asked about Bannon and his connections to the controversial “alt-right” movement in an interview on Fox News Sunday this past weekend, Conway remarked that Trump “chose me to manage his campaign, and I report directly to him.” Chairman of the Republican National Committee Reince Priebus evinced a similar ambivalence toward Bannon in an interview with NBC’s Meet the Press. “I think Kellyanne is doing a phenomenal job. I don’t know Steve Bannon, to tell you the truth, very well." Vanity Fair | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
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He ignored them and is on his way. | ||
Plansix
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Biff The Understudy
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On August 31 2016 23:04 Morfildur wrote: I hate the left and right classification with a passion. You can easily be pro-LGBT, anti-abortion, pro-guns, pro-marijuana and anti-immigration at the same time. On the left-right spectrum you'd be both left and right simultaneously. Political opinion is a 20-dimensional field and people are far too quick to flatten it to a single dimension, because it makes it much easier to hate on people with different opinions. "If you aren't on the same side as me, you're a bad person. You have a wrong opinion, so you are on the wrong side." Left-right classification needs to be banned from all political discussions. Hmm, I think they really do match a certain set of philosophical axioms about how you see the world and politics. The detail of one's opinion is not entirely dictated by those but it doesn't mean they don't exist or are not relevant. French philosopher Jaques Rancière for example talks about how a society is always in a state of tension between the will to keep intact or strengthen vertical power structures and the will to subvert them. That's a very, very good definition of right and left in my opinion and it transcends cultures and time. | ||
zlefin
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Doodsmack
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I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that. - B. Carson, 9/20/15 [Carson rises in the polls and a Fox News poll on 10/13/15 shows him virtually tied with Trump] He’s been getting a lot of ink on the Muslims and other things...And I guess people look at that and they probably like it. Some people thought they wouldn’t like it, but they probably do. - D. Trump, 10/14/15 [San Bernardino shooting happens, 12/3/15] [We need] a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. - D. Trump, 12/7/15 So how often is Trump making policy proposals based on what he believes will get him press coverage? Consider that his position on the Muslim ban is hard to actually determine. What does he believe, and what would he do as president? | ||
Sermokala
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On September 01 2016 03:04 Doodsmack wrote: - B. Carson, 9/20/15 [Carson rises in the polls and a Fox News poll on 10/13/15 shows him virtually tied with Trump] - D. Trump, 10/14/15 [San Bernardino shooting happens, 12/3/15] - D. Trump, 12/7/15 So how often is Trump making policy proposals based on what he believes will get him press coverage? Consider that his position on the Muslim ban is hard to actually determine. What does he believe, and what would he do as president? See this is the problem I have with you. Its hard to tell when you're just being snarky or when you really don't think through anything at all that you post. this post is you showing how the trump campaign comment of "banning Muslims entering the united states" until we have a policy of how to fix the problem of them coming in came from. You did the research and matched up the times of the comments that led up to it. All you had to do next was to say "Trump obviously doesn't mean half the shit that he says because everything he says is just bullshit to get free ad space on television. Hes a legitimate danger to the country because hes never said anything of substance that he will do nor anything that hes for or against other then low level rabble rousing." and you'd have a post where people would look at it and think "hey thats a good point heres what I think about it" or "I don't think that hes made as much points as Obama did during his hope and change campaign". Your questions are msnbc level commentary. I don't think there is a worse insult. | ||
Doodsmack
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"So how often is Trump making policy proposals based on what he believes will get him press coverage? Consider that his position on the Muslim ban is hard to actually determine. What does he believe, and what would he do as president?" I don't understand why you see those two quotes as profoundly different. Your quote that you suggest is actually pretty hyperbolic and opinionated. Mine asks questions. But you say yours is the better route to generating discussion and getting people to open their minds? Even if my questions were loaded and rhetorical, they would be expressing an opinion and therefore equal to your suggested statement of opinion. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
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Danglars
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On September 01 2016 04:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/benfergusonshow/status/771059657582514177 For the first time in forever. Of course if Hillary ever said she'd be issuing a statement followed by questions, the press might faint from shock. | ||
Sermokala
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On September 01 2016 03:54 Doodsmack wrote: "Trump obviously doesn't mean half the shit that he says because everything he says is just bullshit to get free ad space on television. Hes a legitimate danger to the country because hes never said anything of substance that he will do nor anything that hes for or against other then low level rabble rousing." "So how often is Trump making policy proposals based on what he believes will get him press coverage? Consider that his position on the Muslim ban is hard to actually determine. What does he believe, and what would he do as president?" I don't understand why you see those two quotes as profoundly different. Your quote that you suggest is actually pretty hyperbolic and opinionated. Mine asks questions. But you say yours is the better route to generating discussion and getting people to open their minds? Even if my questions were loaded and rhetorical, they would be expressing an opinion and therefore equal to your suggested statement of opinion. OFC you wouldn't understand the difference thats the whole point of someone pointing out the problem they have with your posting. The first sentence isn't a question its a statement that you added a question mark at the end to cache it in debate like you want to plant the obvious answer in peoples minds as they read it. The second is an ambiguous statement that actually has credibility with the research you did and posted but you throw that away and hide it for no determinable reason. You should be making that sentence the focus of the end of your post and either the result of the questions you ask or the beginning of your summary argument based on the other stuff you posted and put effort into. And then your last sentence is so basic it blows my mind. Its literally the question the whole campaign is suppose to answer from the primary to the general. You literally just made a post making a point well grounded in statements and logic answered that question in regard to Muslims. When you give evidence and then ask questions with an obvious answered in light of the evidence your not discussing anything your just giving commentary. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
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Gorsameth
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On September 01 2016 04:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: The press Corp that usually follows Trump in a charter flight was "mistakenly" routed to Phoenix. Haha I would love it if that was done on purpose. Such a Trump thing to do. | ||
Plansix
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On September 01 2016 04:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: The press Corp that usually follows Trump in a charter flight was "mistakenly" routed to Phoenix. Of course it was. And the press won’t at all report on how strange that is. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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On September 01 2016 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/sierraclub/status/771068572885975044 now the question becomes is there enough time to make it clear what is and isn't allowed so people actually can vote? cause usually even if the laws get declared unconstitutional it still effects turnout | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
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After leaving an obscene voicemail for a state legislator, Maine Gov. Paul LePage has apologized to that lawmaker, waffled on whether he would consider resigning, and stood by his widely criticized comments characterizing drug dealers as overwhelmingly black and Hispanic. LePage also has told reporters he will never again speak to the press. You might remember that the Republican governor left a remarkably vulgar message for Democratic Maine Rep. Drew Gattine last week. LePage has repeatedly characterized Maine's drug problem as being caused by people of color coming into the state to sell drugs — invoking offensive stereotypes and non sequitur references to "white girls" as he does so. Gattine had described these remarks as racially charged and unhelpful. In response, LePage repeatedly deployed a vulgarity referencing fellatio, called the lawmaker a "little son-of-a-bitch socialist" and said, "I am after you." He instructed Gattine to record the voicemail and make it public. LePage also told reporters he wished it were 1825 so he could shoot Gattine in a duel... LePage called Gattine and left his obscene voicemail after a TV reporter had asked the governor how he would respond to people who criticized his remarks... Asked on Wednesday whether he would change any of his behavior moving forward, the governor said, "I will no longer speak to the press ever again after today. And I'm serious. Everything will be put in writing. "I am tired of being caught — the gotcha moments," he said. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/31/492096543/maine-governor-apologizes-to-lawmaker-vows-never-to-speak-to-press-again | ||
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