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On August 22 2016 11:12 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 10:48 GoTuNk! wrote:So Dr. Drew's claims are totally false and Hillary's Health is perfect? I clicked that against my better judgement, but I'm not hearing where he says 'her health is gravely deteriorating' like you are claiming. He is criticizing her doctors for how they do screening and what treatments they issued her for minor things like deep vein thrombosis that is entirely irrelevant to the job. What exactly is the story here?
What xDaut said, I should prolly have skipped linking articles. Avoiding speeches, always carrying a stool next to her and having a staff of people holding her to stand still are at least somewhat suspicious.
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She hasn't been avoiding speeches. She spoke in Cleveland on Wednesday.
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On August 22 2016 11:20 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 11:12 Dan HH wrote:On August 22 2016 10:48 GoTuNk! wrote:So Dr. Drew's claims are totally false and Hillary's Health is perfect? I clicked that against my better judgement, but I'm not hearing where he says 'her health is gravely deteriorating' like you are claiming. He is criticizing her doctors for how they do screening and what treatments they issued her for minor things like deep vein thrombosis that is entirely irrelevant to the job. What exactly is the story here? What xDaut said, I should prolly have skipped linking articles. Avoiding speeches, always carrying a stool next to her and having a staff of people holding her to stand still are at least somewhat suspicious.
You two are making Alex Jones seem like the sane one by comparison
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She's 68 years old, it'd be stranger for her not to have *some* health issues. The same applies to Trump--it wasn't that long ago when people were armchair-psychoanalyzing him for psychiatric disorders.
I'm failing to see how this is somehow an issue. Unless you're arguing they're both unfit for the job (and I wouldn't disagree with that, but these are the two choices we've got).
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On August 22 2016 11:28 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 11:20 GoTuNk! wrote:On August 22 2016 11:12 Dan HH wrote:On August 22 2016 10:48 GoTuNk! wrote:So Dr. Drew's claims are totally false and Hillary's Health is perfect? I clicked that against my better judgement, but I'm not hearing where he says 'her health is gravely deteriorating' like you are claiming. He is criticizing her doctors for how they do screening and what treatments they issued her for minor things like deep vein thrombosis that is entirely irrelevant to the job. What exactly is the story here? What xDaut said, I should prolly have skipped linking articles. Avoiding speeches, always carrying a stool next to her and having a staff of people holding her to stand still are at least somewhat suspicious. You two are making Alex Jones seem like the sane one by comparison
59% of voters also now believe all major presidential candidates should release at least their most recent medical records to the public. That’s up dramatically from 38% in May 2014 when questions about Clinton’s health were first being raised. Thirty percent (30%) don’t think candidates should have to release their recent medical records, while 11% are undecided.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/11/poll-majority-of-voters-want-to-see-hillary-clintons-health-records/
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Come on, you have to try harder than infowars and Breitbart.
Even Fox News is better than that.
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On August 22 2016 11:05 xDaunt wrote:
It doesn't take a genius to see that Hillary has health problems. She very clearly has suffered from some sort of cognitive disorder, though we can only speculate as to its nature and severity.
I'm sure you knows more than the half million doctors in US who seen her on TV (including my mom), because... magic?
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On August 22 2016 11:47 TheYango wrote:
Come on, you have to try harder than infowars and Breitbart.
Even Fox News is better than that.
Does it matter? It has the link to the damn poll. Or use google yourself:
![[image loading]](http://i2.wp.com/www.dangerandplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Hillary-being-helped-up-stairs-stroke.jpg?resize=430%2C435)
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Also Giuliani was on fox "asking questions" about Hillary's health. That's about the most mainstream example of this I've seen, and his source was basically "I googled about it"
While showing his support for Donald Trump today on Fox News Sunday, Rudy Giuliani made an abrupt turn when he decided to bring up the recent Internet conspiracy theories insisting that Hillary Clinton is dangerously sick.
After singing Trump’s praises, the former New York mayor blasted the media by saying that Clinton’s campaign never has to do any work or answer the peoples’ questions because the biased media scrutinizes Trump for her. As he said this, Giuliani complained that the mainstream media “fails to point out several signs of illness by her. All you’ve got to do is go online.”
For the past few days, Trump and his media defenders have repeatedly flirted with theories from the far-right that suggest Clinton suffers from physical and mental illness. Clinton’s personal physician has shot down these rumors in the past, and today, Shannon Bream asked Giuliani to point to evidence backing his claim.
Giuliani didn’t name any specific media sources, but he seemingly recommended that people go online to peruse the conspiracy theories.
“Go online and put down Hillary Clinton illness and take a look at the videos for yourself,” Giuliani said.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rudy-giuliani-rips-media-for-ignoring-conspiracy-theories-about-hillarys-health/
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On August 22 2016 11:56 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 11:47 TheYango wrote:
Come on, you have to try harder than infowars and Breitbart.
Even Fox News is better than that. Does it matter? It has the link to the damn poll. Or use google yourself:
Considering Breitbart is nothing more than a blog site it does matter yes.
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On August 22 2016 11:58 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 11:56 GoTuNk! wrote:On August 22 2016 11:47 TheYango wrote:
Come on, you have to try harder than infowars and Breitbart.
Even Fox News is better than that. Does it matter? It has the link to the damn poll. Or use google yourself: Considering Breitbart is nothing more than a blog site it does matter yes.
Luckily we also have the leaked emails now:
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/bad34b9ecae030cee150c162139cd5f0.png)
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/94008833b12681c0eb28ccf4054bdbf8.png)
Feel free to keep discreding sources, but the images and emails plus the avoiding press conferences is pretty damn suspicious. At this point the majority of americans finds this fishy enough to want to see her medical records.
Why don't we have the same fuss as when McCain's Health was considered?
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i'm sure if i was in a senior position i'd be frequently exhausted. screw that, i'm just a lowly middle manager and i'm already frequently exhausted. i would further say that most of the managers are always confused, either that, or they're just dumb.
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We have an actual attestation to her health from her actual physician? Why the fuck would we try to discern her health from leaked emails from 2009? This is like the "Is Obama a Muslim?" shit where they make evidence based upon shit like him bowing his head in acknowledgement to the Saudi King and ignoring the fact that he fucking goes to Church, says Jesus is the Messiah and says he's a Christian when asked.
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Majority of Americans find this fishy? /r/The_Donald isn't a majority of Americans.
McCain had a lifetime of various health problems, was older than her, and had someone with severe mental health concerns as his running mate. If he died someone who doesn't live in reality would be president. If Hillary happens to die there's a sane human on deck. There's a massive difference there.
There's plenty of reasons to not like Hillary, she's very very unlikable person. But this health shit is pathetic. The last desperate grasps of a dying campaign.
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On August 22 2016 12:09 KwarK wrote:
We have an actual attestation to her health from her actual physician? Why the fuck would we try to discern her health from leaked emails from 2009? This is like the "Is Obama a Muslim?" shit where they make evidence based upon shit like him bowing his head in acknowledgement to the Saudi King and ignoring the fact that he fucking goes to Church, says Jesus is the Messiah and says he's a Christian when asked.
All the sources I posted are biased, but her physician has no conflict of interest whatsoever.
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Anyway it's not like the preexisting health issues will prevent her serving a full term, not if the second amendment folks have anything to do with it.
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making up a parallel universe where Obama is Kenyan and Hillary is sick and the lizard cabal runs the world is the only way how these people can reconcile their beliefs with what's happening in the world. Actually that's much more of a mental disease than whatever they suspect Hillary has
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On August 22 2016 12:11 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 12:09 KwarK wrote:
We have an actual attestation to her health from her actual physician? Why the fuck would we try to discern her health from leaked emails from 2009? This is like the "Is Obama a Muslim?" shit where they make evidence based upon shit like him bowing his head in acknowledgement to the Saudi King and ignoring the fact that he fucking goes to Church, says Jesus is the Messiah and says he's a Christian when asked. All the sources I posted are biased, but her physician has no conflict of interest whatsoever.
Only his medical license if he is caught fabricing a claim that she is healthy. But that never stopped conspiracy theorist.
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On August 22 2016 12:11 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 12:09 KwarK wrote:
We have an actual attestation to her health from her actual physician? Why the fuck would we try to discern her health from leaked emails from 2009? This is like the "Is Obama a Muslim?" shit where they make evidence based upon shit like him bowing his head in acknowledgement to the Saudi King and ignoring the fact that he fucking goes to Church, says Jesus is the Messiah and says he's a Christian when asked. All the sources I posted are biased, but her physician has no conflict of interest whatsoever.
If he attests to her health and she dies of something a week later he's gonna look pretty fucking dumb. He's probably thought of that.
Her physician is the guy whose job it is to know whether or not she is healthy. That's literally what he is paid to do. It's also his field of expertise, a field that is considered particularly challenging to become an expert in and certainly not something you can emulate by reading 7 year old emails and speculating based upon her lack of press conferences. This isn't one of those things where there are two sides which are equally valid and you can pick your interpretation. This is one of those NASA vs the guy who thinks stars are painted on the underside of the celestial dome debates.
If you can find a doctor willing to diagnose Hillary based on those emails go for it. Until then, there is actually a doctor who has already given his medical opinion on the matter.
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Trying to speculate about what "mental illness" someone has is almost always a stupid game of mudslinging anyways.
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