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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 21 2016 23:42 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: thats not disconcerting? oh well idk GE's overrated anyway not disconcerting to me. it's not surprising that most people don't make up their mind in time for early polling; they make up their mind by the time it actually matters. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23797 Posts
CHICAGO — Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson is moving to fire seven officers accused of lying about the shooting of Laquan McDonald and its aftermath. "The officers have been relieved of their police powers prior to the determination of the Police Board," Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. As part of process, Johnson will submit his recommendations to the Chicago Police Board, which will ultimately decide whether to fire the officers. Officers in the Police Department were notified via email that Johnson will recommend the firing of seven members of the force involved in the October 2014 shooting, a source said. Thursday's email to officers came after Joe Ferguson, the city's inspector general, sent a report to Johnson recommending the firing of 10 police officers involved with the case. "The department and its outside counsel have carefully reviewed the reports and supporting documents, videos, and other evidence and will accept" the recommendations to fire seven of the officers, Guglielmi said. The firings would be based on Rule 14, a section of the Police Department's disciplinary code that concerns an officer "making a false statement, written or oral." Shortly after the Police Department received Ferguson's report, Deputy Chief David McNaughton, who signed off on a police report justifying McDonald's shooting by officer Jason Van Dyke in October 2014, announced his retirement. A lieutenant involved in the case, Anthony Wojcik, retired in May. The Police Department disagreed that a 10th officer should be fired and "feels that there is insufficient evidence to prove those respective allegations," Guglielmi said. Earlier this week, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said any changes within the Police Department were in Johnson's hands. "I appreciate Supt. Johnson's thoughtful review of the Inspector General's report, and I fully support his decisions," Emanuel said in a statement Thursday." As the city takes these important steps to hold individuals accountable, we must also recommit ourselves to partnering together to rebuild trust between our police department and our residents." www.dnainfo.com Here we are almost 2 years after he was killed by lying/criminal police officers, and the best we have is a reduced number of recommendations for firing and a retirement. Our justice system is all system and no justice. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On August 21 2016 21:19 zeo wrote: LA Times http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/ edit: It's followed the general trend throughout the election cycle so expect more. Interesting to note the boost he got in black votes (and latino) By the way guys its been 260 days since Clintons last press conference. so when you say 'polls' you mean 'poll'. The USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times "Daybreak" is a single poll. if you want a look at weighted polling aggregates: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8022 Posts
On August 21 2016 21:19 zeo wrote: LA Times http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/ edit: It's followed the general trend throughout the election cycle so expect more. Interesting to note the boost he got in black votes (and latino) By the way guys its been 260 days since Clintons last press conference. Please be even a bit more obnoxious and post every day how many days it has been. We all care. Clinton doesn't want the press conference format during her campaign. Can regret it, can think it's bad, but we got it. So give a break, thanks. And 531 gives Trump 15% chances to win, based on a gazillion polls, so don't give yourself false hopes. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23797 Posts
Clinton doesn't want the press conference format during her campaign That's probably in my top 25 most ridiculous spins for Hillary. I don't think there's anything wrong with a weekly reminder that Hillary gives the press less access than Trump despite all the fear mongering over Trump's relationship with the press. Meanwhile the Podesta group is following Hillary's lead of "I was too stupid to know I was doing something wrong" since they got caught up in the same crap as Manafort. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On August 22 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote: Please be even a bit more obnoxious and post every day how many days it has been. We all care. Clinton doesn't want the press conference format during her campaign. Can regret it, can think it's bad, but we got it. So give a break, thanks. And 531 gives Trump 15% chances to win, based on a gazillion polls, so don't give yourself false hopes. Why are you getting so defensive? | ||
KwarK
United States43803 Posts
It's Zeo, putting him down isn't really a case of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks", it's more a case of "nobody is really in the mood to hear what paid Kremlin shills are saying today, fuck off". Zeo always picks the dumbest lines of attack, bases his claims on assumptions that nobody else accepts as real and cherry picks evidence, in this case one poll, to the exclusion of all contrary evidence. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
edit: Oh I read your post without the comma that's why my post makes no sense | ||
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oBlade
United States6004 Posts
On August 21 2016 18:30 puerk wrote: just to clarify about the reuninfication: gorbachov is not a country. Gorbachev is not a country. What a revelation. Only our parents' generation vividly remembers the day Ze Great Kimunikvator stood up to the president of the traditionally hard-line US and said "Komrade Reagans, teer down zis voll." Reunification didn't just happen by accident, it took diplomacy on the part of the US to make it happen both with the USSR, Poland that didn't want to get "breathing room"ed again, and those in NATO that were actually apprehensive about supporting a sovereign Germany. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On August 22 2016 03:40 oBlade wrote: Gorbachev is not a country. What a revelation. Only our parents' generation vividly remembers the day Ze Great Kimunikvator stood up to the president of the traditionally hard-line US and said "Komrade Reagans, teer down zis voll." Reunification didn't just happen by accident, it took diplomacy on the part of the US to make it happen both with the USSR, Poland that didn't want to get "breathing room"ed again, and those in NATO that were actually apprehensive about supporting a sovereign Germany. You mean, for once the US did not completely fuck up diplomacy, when other nations did something useful? Congrats, huge achievement. But please, it was not the US who made the reunification happen. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On August 22 2016 02:53 KwarK wrote: It's Zeo, putting him down isn't really a case of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks", it's more a case of "nobody is really in the mood to hear what paid Kremlin shills are saying today, fuck off". Zeo always picks the dumbest lines of attack, bases his claims on assumptions that nobody else accepts as real and cherry picks evidence, in this case one poll, to the exclusion of all contrary evidence. Last time I mentioned 'wheres hillary?' It was 235 days or something, I went on holiday and came back to no press conference, monthly reminders never hurt anybody. Your ad hominems and character assasination attempts are getting sloppy and predictable btw. Can't correct the record guys come up with anything better? Maybe you should use your mod status to add a press conference ticker as a mod note instead of personally attacking forum users. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Well, the real question here is, whether Secretary Clinton has been taking questions from reporters, which she absolutely has. We went and counted and she has been in more than 300 interviews with reporters this year alone, she’s been on your show, and we’re going to continue to do that. There are lot of different formats which she can engage in reporters, whether it’s one on one interviews, whether it’s talking with her traveling press reporters, or a press conference. We’re going to look at all of those as we move forward. But I don’t think it’s fair to say that someone is shying away from tough questions when they have taken over 300 interviews from reporters, we tried to have the interns look how many questions she took, which is much bigger number, and we haven’t even finished tallying that. http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-campaign-manager-brags-she-has-done-more-than-300-interviews-in-2016/ | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9189 Posts
On August 21 2016 21:19 zeo wrote: LA Times http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/ edit: It's followed the general trend throughout the election cycle so expect more. Interesting to note the boost he got in black votes (and latino) By the way guys its been 260 days since Clintons last press conference. So poll singular, not polls. They've been a consistent outlier since the conventions. Ctrl+F 'USC' there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Since_convention_nominations | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On August 22 2016 04:06 Nevuk wrote: Mook's (HRC campaign manager) response to the press conference issue was pretty lame, but it gives an idea of the Clinton campaign's thought process http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-campaign-manager-brags-she-has-done-more-than-300-interviews-in-2016/ Doesn't matter. The Media (H)achine works for Shillary, and it would only take a proper press conference where true reporters from Breitbart and the Alex Jones Show can grill her to expose her. | ||
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KwarK
United States43803 Posts
On August 22 2016 04:26 JinDesu wrote: Doesn't matter. The Media (H)achine works for Shillary, and it would only take a proper press conference where true reporters from Breitbart and the Alex Jones Show can grill her to expose her. Deliberately leaving our Infowars I see. How long have you been in the pocket of Big Fluoride? | ||
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oBlade
United States6004 Posts
On August 22 2016 04:49 KwarK wrote: Deliberately leaving our Infowars I see. How long have you been in the pocket of Big Fluoride? Fluoride was a false flag to get people to be dismissive of the real treachery, estrogen in the water. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On August 22 2016 04:52 oBlade wrote: Fluoride was a false flag to get people to be dismissive of the real treachery, estrogen in the water. Which leads to the pussification of America and the PC movement. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
All Breitbart and its ilk are looking for is the new hot quote to put on their next click bait garbage. They are Gawker for hard conservatives. | ||
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puerk
Germany855 Posts
On August 22 2016 03:40 oBlade wrote: Gorbachev is not a country. What a revelation. Only our parents' generation vividly remembers the day Ze Great Kimunikvator stood up to the president of the traditionally hard-line US and said "Komrade Reagans, teer down zis voll." Reunification didn't just happen by accident, it took diplomacy on the part of the US to make it happen both with the USSR, Poland that didn't want to get "breathing room"ed again, and those in NATO that were actually apprehensive about supporting a sovereign Germany. Your understanding of the forces leading to reunification are so obnoxiously bad it hurts. I am from Leipzig. I was born in the GDR, my parents protested in 1989 and were part of church organized groups, and understandably afraid, that there would be repeats of 1953, 68 or Tian'anmen. The reunification happened because of the bravery of demonstrating people in the streets, the sowjet decision not to send tanks again as they did before, and the decision of the outnumbered police and secret police to not slaughter the 70000 people protesting peacefully on the 9.10.1989. Reagan had no influence on those people. None at all. The people in power and responsible that it didn't turn into a bloodbath, looked to the east for guidance, not across the ocean. The Kremlin not sending troops, and not ordering a violent crackdown on protests, was vital, but it was inaction that allowed local action to succeed not action inspired by reagan or what ever you imagine in your purposefully ridiculous version of history you wrote. Maybe this helps you understand: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/lets-please-stop-crediting-ronald-reagan-for-the-fall-of-the-berlin-wall/262647/ but i doubt it judging your post history. | ||
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