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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23628 Posts
July 25 2016 23:19 GMT
#89161
On July 26 2016 08:18 zlefin wrote:
True that; plenty of time, and plenty of material to work with. And probably best not to use the A material yet anyways; save that for when people are paying attention.
Though I wish we could just ban all political ads; they're soooo boring and annoying.


Impossible, but after seeing Hillary's commercial for the 100th time in a day I'm on board to try to figure out a way.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 25 2016 23:21 GMT
#89162
On July 26 2016 08:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 08:18 zlefin wrote:
True that; plenty of time, and plenty of material to work with. And probably best not to use the A material yet anyways; save that for when people are paying attention.
Though I wish we could just ban all political ads; they're soooo boring and annoying.


Impossible, but after seeing Hillary's commercial for the 100th time in a day I'm on board to try to figure out a way.


Just think a "this add is sponsored by J.P. Morgan" everytime you see it.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 23:26:06
July 25 2016 23:25 GMT
#89163
Did he just say she opposes the TPP?

what
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
July 25 2016 23:26 GMT
#89164
On July 26 2016 08:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Did he just say she opposes the TPP?

what


Yes, she and Tim Kaine have recently reformed their pro-TPP stance.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 25 2016 23:26 GMT
#89165
On July 26 2016 08:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Did he just say she opposes the TPP?

what


Hasn't she changed her stance on it?
Question.?
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 25 2016 23:28 GMT
#89166
On July 26 2016 08:26 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 08:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Did he just say she opposes the TPP?

what


Hasn't she changed her stance on it?

shes erased all traces of it from her memoir
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
July 25 2016 23:29 GMT
#89167
On July 26 2016 08:26 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 08:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Did he just say she opposes the TPP?

what


Hasn't she changed her stance on it?


Yes she has.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 23:32 GMT
#89168
On July 26 2016 08:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 08:18 zlefin wrote:
True that; plenty of time, and plenty of material to work with. And probably best not to use the A material yet anyways; save that for when people are paying attention.
Though I wish we could just ban all political ads; they're soooo boring and annoying.


Impossible, but after seeing Hillary's commercial for the 100th time in a day I'm on board to try to figure out a way.

yeah; impossible. Only way would be to amend the constitution to make it an exception to the first amendment. That'd be too unpopular to do, even considering how much everyone hates political ads.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 25 2016 23:35 GMT
#89169
Not bad so far, but I'd like to see more of what the Dems plan to do and less about how bad Trump is.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 25 2016 23:36 GMT
#89170
On July 26 2016 08:35 LegalLord wrote:
Not bad so far, but I'd like to see more of what the Dems plan to do and less about how bad Trump is.

Did they really chant "lock her up"
© Current year.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 25 2016 23:36 GMT
#89171
On July 26 2016 08:35 LegalLord wrote:
Not bad so far, but I'd like to see more of what the Dems plan to do and less about how bad Trump is.


I think when the week is over we might actually get to see her give a speech
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
July 25 2016 23:37 GMT
#89172
Unsurprisingly, Hillary is getting support and speeches from both major education unions- the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers. Considering the great educational reforms she wants, and considering Trump's apathy, it makes sense.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 25 2016 23:38 GMT
#89173
Naturally unions will want the left.

It has been 90% anti-Trump thus far, too bad.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 23:38 GMT
#89174
On July 26 2016 08:35 LegalLord wrote:
Not bad so far, but I'd like to see more of what the Dems plan to do and less about how bad Trump is.

yeah; not sure why I'm bothering to watch the convention; as nothing of import is decided there.
Then again, if I were running the convention I'd probably make it truly boring. At least this stuff is entertaining for parts of the base.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23628 Posts
July 25 2016 23:39 GMT
#89175
No one believes she went from thinking the TPP was the gold standard to being against it. 100% TPP passes under Clinton. Might tag on some BS environmental/worker protections but it will still be crap for US workers and average folks.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
July 25 2016 23:41 GMT
#89176
I'm excited for Michelle Obama's speech; she'll be the first woman to ever have speeches at both the RNC and DNC
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 25 2016 23:42 GMT
#89177
I believe TPP will be good for the US. though some tweaks may be in order.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 25 2016 23:44 GMT
#89178
Trade agreements have had plenty of issues and have fallen severely out of favor for good reason. If TPP is a good thing I'll believe it when I see it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23628 Posts
July 25 2016 23:45 GMT
#89179
On July 26 2016 08:44 LegalLord wrote:
Trade agreements have had plenty of issues and have fallen severely out of favor for good reason. If TPP is a good thing I'll believe it when I see it.


Which is why you haven't seen it, and why fast tracking it was pushed by some Democrats.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 23:48:57
July 25 2016 23:47 GMT
#89180
Demi Lovato what

edit - Does anyone have a schedule of the speakers?
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