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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23300 Posts
July 25 2016 21:22 GMT
#88981
On July 26 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


wow gold star for you! i hope you enjoy your participation award


lol. Alright. Ted Cruz getting booed was some big deal, but this is just smooth sailing.

The spin is dizzying.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:23:44
July 25 2016 21:22 GMT
#88982
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Trump this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 25 2016 21:23 GMT
#88983
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.


You arent going to here anything that will change your mind if you lean towards Republicans if thats what you are thinking.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:26:09
July 25 2016 21:25 GMT
#88984
On July 26 2016 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


wow gold star for you! i hope you enjoy your participation award


lol. Alright. Ted Cruz getting booed was some big deal, but this is just smooth sailing.

The spin is dizzying.


It really is, I can't wait to see how the media spins this

"United DNC marches forth to stop the maniac Trump under Clinton the Great!"

"Republican party fractured under Trump the great divider!"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 25 2016 21:25 GMT
#88985
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Trump this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.

Other than Obama, which Democratic candidates have you actually supported?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:26:32
July 25 2016 21:26 GMT
#88986
On July 26 2016 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


wow gold star for you! i hope you enjoy your participation award


lol. Alright. Ted Cruz getting booed was some big deal, but this is just smooth sailing.

The spin is dizzying.


liberals have always been bigger whiners than republicans. especially the kiddies.

though there are some exceptions here and there.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:27:58
July 25 2016 21:26 GMT
#88987
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


Oh I am not surprised.
Was somewhat anticipating/hoping for a complete meltdown tonight but I guess that would be one step to far.
Maybe the best outcome for the democrats is a truce this convention. A convincing embracing of Hillary by all the sanders supporters is a bit to soon probably.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10764 Posts
July 25 2016 21:26 GMT
#88988
Is it hard to become speechwriter in the us?
Its like only one tiny part of my job but seriously... give me 1 hour and i smoke these guys... in a, to me, foreign language.



Or.. These non bernie guys really still don't see the point the bernie crowd is actually making.


The latter is way more likely
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:28:16
July 25 2016 21:26 GMT
#88989
On July 26 2016 06:11 xDaunt wrote:
LOL, just reducing super delegates by 2/3s? This is a farce. Are these idiots not paying attention?


I think the fact that Trump almost certainly wouldn't be the nominee (at least on the first ballot) if there were Republican superdelegates is the main reason they're retaining any.

Then again he likely wouldn't be the nominee at all if Republicans had proportional delegate allocation so it's not really a great reason to keep superdelegates around.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15714 Posts
July 25 2016 21:27 GMT
#88990
On July 26 2016 06:25 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Trump this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.

Other than Obama, which Democratic candidates have you actually supported?


The average age around here makes this a kinda difficult question.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 25 2016 21:28 GMT
#88991
On July 26 2016 06:27 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:25 farvacola wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Trump this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.

Other than Obama, which Democratic candidates have you actually supported?


The average age around here makes this a kinda difficult question.

Regardless, the point still remains: liking Obama in '08 and '12 doesn't make mean one generally supports Democrats
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10764 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:29:10
July 25 2016 21:28 GMT
#88992
i was pro kerry and pro manbearpig
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
July 25 2016 21:29 GMT
#88993
On July 26 2016 06:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That verbal vote was not one-sided at all

I honestly don't see what the point of a verbal vote is because it seems clear that in both the Republican and Democrat conventions that whatever it is that they are putting to a vote is intended to pass no matter what.

Reminds me of this video.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2016 21:30 GMT
#88994
On July 26 2016 06:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


wow gold star for you! i hope you enjoy your participation award


lol. Alright. Ted Cruz getting booed was some big deal, but this is just smooth sailing.

The spin is dizzying.


It really is, I can't wait to see how the media spins this

"United DNC marches forth to stop the maniac Trump under Clinton the Great!"

"Republican party fractured under Trump the great divider!"

One of the main differences is that they seem to be booing everyone all the time. I am sure the media will cover it. But it no where near as dramatic as the Cruz speech.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 25 2016 21:30 GMT
#88995
On July 26 2016 06:29 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That verbal vote was not one-sided at all

I honestly don't see what the point of a verbal vote is because it seems clear that in both the Republican and Democrat conventions that whatever it is that they are putting to a vote is intended to pass no matter what.

Reminds me of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BwqzzqcDs


That was the impression I got.

She did it out of 'going through the motions' and even though it was anything but clear which side won, just announced it passed and everyone moved on 0 fucks given.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 25 2016 21:31 GMT
#88996
On July 26 2016 06:25 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Trump this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.

Other than Obama, which Democratic candidates have you actually supported?


I'm relatively young, so not in the present, but when I looked through the history and policy proposals and such, I thought Bill Clinton and Al Gore were the better choices, and Kerry as well, though maybe that's easy to say in hindsight. They've just been moving too far to the left initially... If Hillary wasn't so despicable and immoral, and wasn't drifting to the left because of the LGBT cultural shift and to gain support from Bernie bros, I think she'd be a fine candidate.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:33:26
July 25 2016 21:32 GMT
#88997
On July 26 2016 06:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Still waiting on your secret plan, gh. It's tonight, right?


lol.. I don't know what you're imagining. But this is already far more disruption than any of you all predicted when you laughed at the idea that the Convention wouldn't be as united as they were trying to pretend.


wow gold star for you! i hope you enjoy your participation award


lol. Alright. Ted Cruz getting booed was some big deal, but this is just smooth sailing.

The spin is dizzying.


It really is, I can't wait to see how the media spins this

"United DNC marches forth to stop the maniac Trump under Clinton the Great!"

"Republican party fractured under Trump the great divider!"

One of the main differences is that they seem to be booing everyone all the time. I am sure the media will cover it. But it no where near as dramatic as the Cruz speech.


Not everyone all the time, just anyone who supports Clinton and is calling for faux unity. It's a very direct message that the "unity" theme is bullshit.


No TPP! No TPP!
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 25 2016 21:32 GMT
#88998
On July 26 2016 06:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 06:25 farvacola wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:19 xDaunt wrote:
On July 26 2016 06:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This is a very painful speech to watch.

After being somewhat changed from the RNC convention... I hope this convention doesn't turn me away from Democrat candidates for longer than just this election.

It's precisely the kind of hyper-sanitized, canned speech that you'd expect at a Democrat convention. What makes it particularly hilarious, though, is how it so badly whitewashes the larger context given its intended subject matter.


I've never watched one before, so I'm looking forward to making up my mind. And yeah, that is the exact kind of stuff that I dislike about the current left, but there were some very bad speakers at RNC too, so I'll forstall my judgement for a while.

@Rebs I support Drumpf this election, but historically, I've preferred Democratic candidates.

Other than Obama, which Democratic candidates have you actually supported?


I'm relatively young, so not in the present, but when I looked through the history and policy proposals and such, I thought Bill Clinton and Al Gore were the better choices, and Kerry as well, though maybe that's easy to say in hindsight. They've just been moving too far to the left initially... If Hillary wasn't so despicable and immoral, and wasn't drifting to the left because of the LGBT cultural shift and to gain support from Bernie bros, I think she'd be a fine candidate.


Do you think Bill Clinton was a better president than Trump would be ?

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9676 Posts
July 25 2016 21:33 GMT
#88999
Some classic oneupmanship coming from the Democrats here. Just when you think it wasn't possible to screw a campaign as hard as nominating Trump the Democrats just take it up another few levels.
RIP Meatloaf <3
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 21:34:31
July 25 2016 21:33 GMT
#89000
Lol that banner with "stop tpp"
people are going to be so disappointed once again 4 years from now.
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