EPTOn July 26 2016 05:45 farvacola wrote:
"Trump didn't actually mean it, he's just pandering."
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On July 26 2016 05:38 WhiteDog wrote:
I agree with you entirely but it's all a conjecture, the same argument can be said about Clinton or any other candidate. I think it's better to actually discuss what is being proposed, even if we all know that in the end, the president (whoever it is) will not entirely respect its promises (which is actually a good thing, giving all the power to one person is quite frightening).
Also, I was not at all saying that Trump is right in any way, as an anti free trade myself I am not entirely nuts and still want to envision a positive way out of the current economic globalization rather than the destruction of global trading through a unilateral withdrawal of the one major player. I think Trump is weak enough to be criticized on what he propose rather than arguing that he might not respect his own policies.
On July 26 2016 05:33 farvacola wrote:
But see, this is where the language begins to break down; as has been described in this thread already, one should assume that there is an oftentimes significant gap between what Trump says he'll do and the eventual reality of his candidacy. While he has recently seized upon some pretty anti-trade agreement rhetoric, pretty much his entire professional life suggests a positive attitude towards international trade cooperation. This is why so many people are using the dice roll analogy, as poor as it may be.
On July 26 2016 05:30 WhiteDog wrote:
Ending all trade agreement and talking about leaving the WTO is not being for the statu quo really ...
On July 26 2016 05:27 Doodsmack wrote:
One could argue Trump is a lifelong status quo lover, considering the amount of money he has donated to crooked career politicians in order to prop up the status quo for his benefit.
On July 26 2016 05:25 WhiteDog wrote:
Brilliantly said actually, it's exactly that. The people that actually want the statu quo nowadays are a very thin minority.
On July 26 2016 05:23 Doodsmack wrote:
Hillary supporters aren't status quo lovers, they are danger avoiders.
Hillary supporters aren't status quo lovers, they are danger avoiders.
Brilliantly said actually, it's exactly that. The people that actually want the statu quo nowadays are a very thin minority.
One could argue Trump is a lifelong status quo lover, considering the amount of money he has donated to crooked career politicians in order to prop up the status quo for his benefit.
Ending all trade agreement and talking about leaving the WTO is not being for the statu quo really ...
But see, this is where the language begins to break down; as has been described in this thread already, one should assume that there is an oftentimes significant gap between what Trump says he'll do and the eventual reality of his candidacy. While he has recently seized upon some pretty anti-trade agreement rhetoric, pretty much his entire professional life suggests a positive attitude towards international trade cooperation. This is why so many people are using the dice roll analogy, as poor as it may be.
I agree with you entirely but it's all a conjecture, the same argument can be said about Clinton or any other candidate. I think it's better to actually discuss what is being proposed, even if we all know that in the end, the president (whoever it is) will not entirely respect its promises (which is actually a good thing, giving all the power to one person is quite frightening).
Also, I was not at all saying that Trump is right in any way, as an anti free trade myself I am not entirely nuts and still want to envision a positive way out of the current economic globalization rather than the destruction of global trading through a unilateral withdrawal of the one major player. I think Trump is weak enough to be criticized on what he propose rather than arguing that he might not respect his own policies.
"Trump didn't actually mean it, he's just pandering."
Yes either that or, "Trump is just taking this seemingly extreme position as a negotiating ploy because he will later change it to make a deal". This is an actual argument by Trump supporters.
