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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 13:57:10
July 19 2016 13:55 GMT
#86481
On July 19 2016 19:07 Shingi11 wrote:
As much as i despise trump i am going to laugh if his next speech plagiarizes quotes "i have a dream" just to double down on his buffoonery.

https://.twitter.com/jonfavs/status/755270989898878976

the ironey



He should just do it.
Just because one man had a dream 50 years ago,noone else can dream anymore?

All this crap about the speech,it will backfire on the democrats for sure. Attacking Melanie is bad idea.
It was a good speech,nothing wrong with it.
Democrats are starting to look more and more like a bunch of cry babys that seek out every opportunity to show their hate for trump.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 13:58 GMT
#86482
On July 19 2016 22:55 pmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 19:07 Shingi11 wrote:
As much as i despise trump i am going to laugh if his next speech plagiarizes quotes "i have a dream" just to double down on his buffoonery.

https://.twitter.com/jonfavs/status/755270989898878976

the ironey



He should just do it.
Just because one man had a dream 50 years ago,noone else can dream anymore?

All this crap about the speech,it will backfire on the democrats for sure. Attacking Melanie is bad idea.
It was a good speech,nothing wrong with it.
Democrats are starting to look more and more like a bunch of cry babys that seek out every opportunity to show their hate for trump.

The Democrats are not doing anything. The press is reporting on it. The Dems are laughing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 19 2016 14:05 GMT
#86483
when your opponent is shooting himself in the foot, you dont stop him.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 14:16 GMT
#86484
Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus doesn't fault Melania Trump for delivering a convention speech that appears to be blatantly plagiarized, but he said Tuesday he would consider firing her speechwriter.

"I don't blame her," Priebus said at a Bloomberg Politics breakfast. "Some of these things are pretty common themes."

The chair said if it was his call, he would "probably" axe the staffer responsible for the speech.

Priebus also predicted "the distraction" over the plagiarism would peter out as the convention picks back up Tuesday afternoon and praised Trump's speech as "very inspirational" and a "great immigrant story."

The speech was a rare move from the presumptive nominee's wife, who has shied away from the spotlight and rarely appeared on the campaign trail.

While the speech was initially praised by conservatives, confirmation quickly surfaced that parts of Trump's text was word-for-word the same as First Lady Michelle Obama's convention address in 2008. The Trump camp has denied any "cribbing" of Obama's speech.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 19 2016 14:20 GMT
#86485
"To think that she would do something like that knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night is just really absurd," Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

I think the argument that Trump can assemble a great team around him to make up for his lack of knowledge is shot.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 19 2016 14:31 GMT
#86486
On July 19 2016 23:20 Doodsmack wrote:
"To think that she would do something like that knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night is just really absurd," Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

I think the argument that Trump can assemble a great team around him to make up for his lack of knowledge is shot.


It's awesome how their argument is "surely no one is that incompetent! especially not us!"
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 19 2016 14:31 GMT
#86487
This whole thing was a mess. There is definitely people on the inside that are laughing their asses off outside of work. Just hearing the rick roll, and how the speech was plagiarized is more than enough.
Life?
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 14:35:10
July 19 2016 14:32 GMT
#86488
On July 19 2016 23:20 Doodsmack wrote:
"To think that she would do something like that knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night is just really absurd," Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

I think the argument that Trump can assemble a great team around him to make up for his lack of knowledge is shot.


That argument got shot for everyone but people that will support him no matter what a long, long time ago I think. So it really doesn't much matter.

On July 19 2016 23:31 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:20 Doodsmack wrote:
"To think that she would do something like that knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night is just really absurd," Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

I think the argument that Trump can assemble a great team around him to make up for his lack of knowledge is shot.


It's awesome how their argument is "surely no one is that incompetent! especially not us!"


It's especially funny because the defense of their tweet stolen from a racist/anti-Semitic twitter account was one part "a star is just a star" and one part "it was incompetence." Also does the campaign chair think she wrote her own speech? Now THERE'S incompetence. (Of course the speechwriter could also be female but it's pretty funny if he thought she wrote it)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 14:40 GMT
#86489


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
July 19 2016 14:40 GMT
#86490
Considering how badly Clinton was biting Sanders (especially on twitter) I think some people should be a bit more careful about laughing too hard.

As for how this Melania thing will play out, I think some people don't realize that between Trump, The Press, and Hillary, Trump is the most trusted. Not going to be as easy to push the version they want as some people think.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43262 Posts
July 19 2016 14:43 GMT
#86491
On July 19 2016 11:57 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 11:49 acker wrote:
"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to."

LOL

They don't have freedom in the EU, the birthplace of democracy. They lost it.

We replaced it with Shania Law. You stand before Shania Twain and try and impress her with your eloquent defence of your actions. If that don't impress her much, bullet to the back of the head. It's tough but we find it fair.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43262 Posts
July 19 2016 14:44 GMT
#86492
On July 19 2016 12:05 acker wrote:
I don't know if there were even any Jewish Founding Fathers.

Jesus, duh.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 19 2016 14:48 GMT
#86493
On July 19 2016 23:44 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 12:05 acker wrote:
I don't know if there were even any Jewish Founding Fathers.

Jesus, duh.


But Jesus was brown.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45078 Posts
July 19 2016 14:49 GMT
#86494
Everyone is having a field day with the plagiarism

[image loading]
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43262 Posts
July 19 2016 14:57 GMT
#86495
On July 19 2016 22:55 pmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 19:07 Shingi11 wrote:
As much as i despise trump i am going to laugh if his next speech plagiarizes quotes "i have a dream" just to double down on his buffoonery.

https://.twitter.com/jonfavs/status/755270989898878976

the ironey



He should just do it.
Just because one man had a dream 50 years ago,noone else can dream anymore?

All this crap about the speech,it will backfire on the democrats for sure. Attacking Melanie is bad idea.
It was a good speech,nothing wrong with it.
Democrats are starting to look more and more like a bunch of cry babys that seek out every opportunity to show their hate for trump.

It was a great speech. Democrats loved it. In 2008.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:01 GMT
#86496
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 15:05:09
July 19 2016 15:03 GMT
#86497
On July 19 2016 23:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Everyone is having a field day with the plagiarism

[image loading]

And the democrats, being very smart for once, are saying nothing. That is the best part about this GOP, they will hang themselves.

They could make this a 5 minute issue. Just say "Yep, on speech writer totally lifted that paragraph. We fired him/her. Its shameful and we are sorry." And follow up with, "Michelle gave a great speech in 2008 and we think a lot of the themes still apply today."

BUT THEY WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE "OBAMA BAD!!!"

Edit: Seriously, I am enjoying the fact that Trump can't go 24 hours without fucking up and then doubling down on fucking up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 15:05:14
July 19 2016 15:04 GMT
#86498
On July 19 2016 23:48 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:44 KwarK wrote:
On July 19 2016 12:05 acker wrote:
I don't know if there were even any Jewish Founding Fathers.

Jesus, duh.


But Jesus was brown.

Jesus was Jewish also.

Not many people know this, but Christians at one point only allowed Jews to convert to Christianity. It was only until centuries later that they allowed 'heathens' to become Christians.

edit: oops didn't read the nested quotes. Looks like someone else already knows a bit of history
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:06 GMT
#86499
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
July 19 2016 15:08 GMT
#86500
It takes a special kind of person to get caught red handed and still claim to be innocent. Most people would try a different approach to make themselves look innocent or the event harmless.

But nope. just keep yelling 'its not true' in the face of clear evidence...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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