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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 19 2016 04:49 GMT
#86441
Technology is an incredible thing, 30 years ago it would be pretty hard to imagine a speech like this getting fact checked so rapidly.
Of course, it's also almost certainly due to technology that it's so easy to plagiarize like this, but eh.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 04:49 GMT
#86442
The biggest deal here is that Melania lost her key opportunity to appear dignified and serious. It also steals every headline from day 1. Media-wise, plagiarism will be what people talk about tomorrow. That's a big blow and a huge deal. That's the worst possible start for what is supposed to be a serious convention.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 04:52 GMT
#86443
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
July 19 2016 04:53 GMT
#86444
On July 19 2016 13:40 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:39 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:33 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:25 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:


Seem likes just a coincidence to me.




Wow


Maybe I am just naive but speech writers that did the same study and wrote hundred of politicals speech writing the same phrase seems more belivable to me then working to copy another speech, and it's not like it was in a particulary good speech.


It seems widely regarded as the best speech of the day, certainly one of the best.


Realy? Maybe because the rest were speech done by reality tv show, it was underwhelming to me.

Anyway, at worst some guy took a 20sec part of another speech, should not have done that, but it is not the end of the world it is not like those kind of speech are suppose to be honest.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 04:56 GMT
#86445
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 04:57 GMT
#86446
On July 19 2016 13:53 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:40 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:39 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:33 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:25 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:

https://twitter.com/jarretthill/status/755242423991709697

Seem likes just a coincidence to me.




Wow


Maybe I am just naive but speech writers that did the same study and wrote hundred of politicals speech writing the same phrase seems more belivable to me then working to copy another speech, and it's not like it was in a particulary good speech.


It seems widely regarded as the best speech of the day, certainly one of the best.


Realy? Maybe because the rest were speech done by reality tv show, it was underwhelming to me.

Anyway, at worst some guy took a 20sec part of another speech, should not have done that, but it is not the end of the world it is not like those kind of speech are suppose to be honest.

Literally stole the ideas and words associated with them from the party they oppose. They took the words directly from the democrats, who they vilified all day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 04:58 GMT
#86447
On July 19 2016 13:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/755261426026082304

Classic. In before he calls them disloyal and threatens to throw them out of the convention.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 05:02 GMT
#86448
Its now all over social media and news outlet on Twitter, Facebook, Huffington Post, and The Guardian, TPM. Also every major news outlet is talking about this. When is it time for the RNC to make a move to put this fire out if the campaign won't do anything?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 05:04 GMT
#86449
On July 19 2016 14:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Its now all over social media and news outlet on Twitter, Facebook, Huffington Post, and The Guardian, TPM. Also every major news outlet is talking about this. When is it time for the RNC to make a move to put this fire out if the campaign won't do anything?

What can they even really do? Best option may be to ignore it?
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
July 19 2016 05:05 GMT
#86450
On July 19 2016 13:53 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:40 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:39 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:33 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:25 Nakajin wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:

https://twitter.com/jarretthill/status/755242423991709697

Seem likes just a coincidence to me.




Wow


Maybe I am just naive but speech writers that did the same study and wrote hundred of politicals speech writing the same phrase seems more belivable to me then working to copy another speech, and it's not like it was in a particulary good speech.


It seems widely regarded as the best speech of the day, certainly one of the best.


Realy? Maybe because the rest were speech done by reality tv show, it was underwhelming to me.

Anyway, at worst some guy took a 20sec part of another speech, should not have done that, but it is not the end of the world it is not like those kind of speech are suppose to be honest.


I didn't pick the other speakers! You can only compare it to the other speeches of the day. "I have a dream" certainly none of them were. It happened to be the best in a mountain of garbage, still the best though.

I mean nothing sticks to him, his supporters don't care so this won't change much there. Maybe it sways some independents, a few perhaps but it's not watergate or anything. But there's a less than 0% chance it was a coincidence and its pretty sad. I know the Obama's are likable eloquent people but come on, don't jack part of the speech of someone you supposedly despise. Just write your own cliche milquetoast crap at least.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
July 19 2016 05:08 GMT
#86451
On July 19 2016 14:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 14:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Its now all over social media and news outlet on Twitter, Facebook, Huffington Post, and The Guardian, TPM. Also every major news outlet is talking about this. When is it time for the RNC to make a move to put this fire out if the campaign won't do anything?

What can they even really do? Best option may be to ignore it?


This does turn attention away from mostly terrible speakers and puts it back on Trump by proxy of his wife. His entire political career thus far has been cause controversy, get the media spotlight blasted at you. Before this everyone was going to give attention to how stupid the convention was today, but now instead its on this. The media isn't fixated on awful speaker #23951 its fixated on Melania Trump! That's good for visibility!
LiquidDota Staff
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 19 2016 05:09 GMT
#86452
Now I'm wondering if the rickroll in the middle of her speech was intentional or not.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 05:11:32
July 19 2016 05:09 GMT
#86453
Looks like the Trump campaign is setting up Manifort for the fall even though it's being hinted she wrote the speech. He had to approve it.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 19 2016 05:13 GMT
#86454
It's okay, tune in on day 3 for "I have a dream" by Donald Trump
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46651 Posts
July 19 2016 05:19 GMT
#86455
On July 19 2016 14:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's okay, tune in on day 3 for "I have a dream" by Donald Trump


I believe he'll also reference a time when he was just starting out as a young entrepreneur... four score and seven years ago...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 05:20 GMT
#86456
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 19 2016 05:24 GMT
#86457
i guess they didnt use turnitin smh
© Current year.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
July 19 2016 05:31 GMT
#86458
Is a pretty generic sentiment being conveyed, and certain similarities are expected when speaking about parallel topics, but I admit somebody should have caught just how similar it was to Michelle's beforehand. The stink and idiots screaming "Ooo, gotcha!" is going to depress me more actually.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
July 19 2016 05:33 GMT
#86459
On July 19 2016 10:06 Nyxisto wrote:
Why do Republicans channel jesus as if he was some kind of law & order judge dredd figure who kicked everybody's ass ?

Reminds me of a Five Iron Frenzy song:
"Shut the doors and save the kids,
lock and load- just like Jesus did."

"When you play this song, Al Qaeda wins,
and Jesus was American."
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 19 2016 05:35 GMT
#86460
If plagiarism rather then the general shitshow of a day that this was is the main story, then that's a net positive for Trump. Day 1 salvaged.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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