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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5068 Posts
July 19 2016 03:46 GMT
#86401
From last year:

CHICAGO (WLS) -- The ABC7 I-Team looked into ISIS terrorists in the United States- not just a smattering of potentially violent radicals, but terrorists present in Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan and all 50 states.

In less than two years, ISIS has gone from a terror start-up overseas to what FBI Director James Comey calls a "chaotic spider web" in the US, with young Muslim men being radicalized in Illinois and the 49 other states. Comey suggests ISIS uses social media like a job fair. That's how he says terrorists snagged three New York men facing ISIS charges.

"Those people exist in every state. I have homegrown violent extremist investigations in every single state. Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states. Alaska had none which I couldn't quite figure out. But Alaska has now joined the group so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states," Comey said.


http://abc7chicago.com/news/isis-present-in-all-50-states-fbi-director-says/534732/
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 03:47 GMT
#86402
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 03:48 GMT
#86403
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 19 2016 03:51 GMT
#86404
...well, nobody died. The convention has already exceeded my expectations in that regard.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 03:57 GMT
#86405
On July 19 2016 12:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/emorwee/status/755238819620937728

Stuff like this always feels meaningless because it serves the person well to just lie about it. We have no evidence, she benefits from the story, and we just kinds talk about it anyway.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:04:13
July 19 2016 04:02 GMT
#86406
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
July 19 2016 04:07 GMT
#86407
On July 19 2016 13:02 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jarretthill/status/755242423991709697


Just saw this, lol wtf. Is this actually real life or what?
LiquidDota Staff
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:14:01
July 19 2016 04:11 GMT
#86408
On July 19 2016 13:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:02 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jarretthill/status/755242423991709697


Just saw this, lol wtf. Is this actually real life or what?

It's s clown show run by people pending to the worst parts of the nation. They are so devoid of ideas and any concept of earnest hope, they can't even find the words. So they steal them from their opponents, whom they claim have nothing to offer.

And they are dumb enough to to think we won't notice. Or they just don't care.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:16:34
July 19 2016 04:14 GMT
#86409
On July 19 2016 12:46 Introvert wrote:
From last year:

Show nested quote +
CHICAGO (WLS) -- The ABC7 I-Team looked into ISIS terrorists in the United States- not just a smattering of potentially violent radicals, but terrorists present in Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan and all 50 states.

In less than two years, ISIS has gone from a terror start-up overseas to what FBI Director James Comey calls a "chaotic spider web" in the US, with young Muslim men being radicalized in Illinois and the 49 other states. Comey suggests ISIS uses social media like a job fair. That's how he says terrorists snagged three New York men facing ISIS charges.

"Those people exist in every state. I have homegrown violent extremist investigations in every single state. Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states. Alaska had none which I couldn't quite figure out. But Alaska has now joined the group so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states," Comey said.


http://abc7chicago.com/news/isis-present-in-all-50-states-fbi-director-says/534732/

From this year:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/joni-ernst-isis-terrorists-225792



Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst dramatized the threat posed by ISIS during the Republican National Convention Monday, but she also appeared to exaggerate the spread of followers of the Islamic State group on U.S. soil.

"According to the FBI, ISIS is present in all 50 states. Think about that for a moment. Terrorists from ISIS are in every one of our 50 states," Ernst said.

Ernst's comments appeared to be based on statements FBI Director James Comey made in February 2015, when he announced that the FBI was then pursuing radicalization investigations in all 50 states, with Alaska just added to the list.

However, the FBI chief did not state that people in all 50 states had been confirmed to be ISIS followers, rather that probes had been opened into that possibility.

In addition, while Ernst referred to those under investigation as "from" ISIS, the FBI has yet to assert that any attack or planned attack in the U.S. was directed by the terror group holding territory in Syria and Iraq.

"Those people exist in every state," Comey told the National Association of Attorney General. "Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states. Alaska had none which I couldn't quite figure out. But Alaska has now joined the group so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states."



...and Trump's wife plagiarized Michelle Obama. Not above it all after all.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 04:16 GMT
#86410
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 04:17 GMT
#86411
On July 19 2016 13:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/755254070164664321

Someone is getting extremely fired. Making a fool of Trump's wife is probably a "so long and good riddance".
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:19:58
July 19 2016 04:19 GMT
#86412
On July 19 2016 13:17 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/755254070164664321

Someone is getting extremely fired. Making a fool of Trump's wife is probably a "so long and good riddance".

Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 19 2016 04:20 GMT
#86413
In NA we like Clown Fiestas in our esports so why not our politics?
Never Knows Best.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 19 2016 04:23 GMT
#86414
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 04:23 GMT
#86415
On July 19 2016 13:19 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:17 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/755254070164664321

Someone is getting extremely fired. Making a fool of Trump's wife is probably a "so long and good riddance".

https://twitter.com/NellSco/status/755254306396180481

I mean, of course she says that. Is she not supposed to? A speech writer's job is to write a speech for someone perfectly so that there is no reason to second guess anything. The speechwriter failed.

Whether she said she wrote it or not, the person who actually wrote it is getting fired.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:24:36
July 19 2016 04:23 GMT
#86416
On July 19 2016 13:20 Slaughter wrote:
In NA we like Clown Fiestas in our esports so why not our politics?


I always keep coming back to Trump being a Clinton plant. It has to be right? This kind of stuff doesn't repeatedly happen unless its all some prank gone too far, right? It just gets too impossible to believe at some point.

On July 19 2016 13:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:19 acker wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:17 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 19 2016 13:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/755254070164664321

Someone is getting extremely fired. Making a fool of Trump's wife is probably a "so long and good riddance".

https://twitter.com/NellSco/status/755254306396180481

I mean, of course she says that. Is she not supposed to? A speech writer's job is to write a speech for someone perfectly so that there is no reason to second guess anything. The speechwriter failed.

Whether she said she wrote it or not, the person who actually wrote it is getting fired.


ORRRR is this the excuse Donald finally needs to divorce her after 18 years?! Huh? Yeah
LiquidDota Staff
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 04:25:50
July 19 2016 04:25 GMT
#86417
22 words out of 26 words in the first part of Mrs. Trump's matched Michelle Obama's...


The highlight of tonight has turned into a shitstorm.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
July 19 2016 04:25 GMT
#86418
On July 19 2016 13:07 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 13:02 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jarretthill/status/755242423991709697


Just saw this, lol wtf. Is this actually real life or what?


Pretty sure if you can find this same idea in a good proportion of the presidential candidate and first lady speech in any country it is just some realy bland an easy thing you have to said. There are professional paid to right those speech and they wrote a bunch of them of course they all kind of sound the same, they know what catchphrase work the best.

It would be way harder to actually take Michelle Obama speech and try to copy it by changing some word then to just write that kind of bland statement. Seem likes just a coincidence to me.

Anyway it's not like it was of any importance.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5068 Posts
July 19 2016 04:25 GMT
#86419
On July 19 2016 13:14 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 12:46 Introvert wrote:
From last year:

CHICAGO (WLS) -- The ABC7 I-Team looked into ISIS terrorists in the United States- not just a smattering of potentially violent radicals, but terrorists present in Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan and all 50 states.

In less than two years, ISIS has gone from a terror start-up overseas to what FBI Director James Comey calls a "chaotic spider web" in the US, with young Muslim men being radicalized in Illinois and the 49 other states. Comey suggests ISIS uses social media like a job fair. That's how he says terrorists snagged three New York men facing ISIS charges.

"Those people exist in every state. I have homegrown violent extremist investigations in every single state. Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states. Alaska had none which I couldn't quite figure out. But Alaska has now joined the group so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states," Comey said.


http://abc7chicago.com/news/isis-present-in-all-50-states-fbi-director-says/534732/

From this year:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/joni-ernst-isis-terrorists-225792

Show nested quote +


Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst dramatized the threat posed by ISIS during the Republican National Convention Monday, but she also appeared to exaggerate the spread of followers of the Islamic State group on U.S. soil.

"According to the FBI, ISIS is present in all 50 states. Think about that for a moment. Terrorists from ISIS are in every one of our 50 states," Ernst said.

Ernst's comments appeared to be based on statements FBI Director James Comey made in February 2015, when he announced that the FBI was then pursuing radicalization investigations in all 50 states, with Alaska just added to the list.

However, the FBI chief did not state that people in all 50 states had been confirmed to be ISIS followers, rather that probes had been opened into that possibility.

In addition, while Ernst referred to those under investigation as "from" ISIS, the FBI has yet to assert that any attack or planned attack in the U.S. was directed by the terror group holding territory in Syria and Iraq.

"Those people exist in every state," Comey told the National Association of Attorney General. "Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states. Alaska had none which I couldn't quite figure out. But Alaska has now joined the group so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states."



...and Trump's wife plagiarized Michelle Obama. Not above it all after all.


Yes, I'm sure the people in this thread were just being nitpicky.

There is a serious problem,which is the point.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 04:27 GMT
#86420
I mean this has to be sabotage there's no fucking way this was an accident...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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