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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:09 GMT
#86501
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 19 2016 15:10 GMT
#86502
On July 20 2016 00:08 Gorsameth wrote:
It takes a special kind of person to get caught red handed and still claim to be innocent. Most people would try a different approach to make themselves look innocent or the event harmless.

But nope. just keep yelling 'its not true' in the face of clear evidence...

It's that or draw attention to the rest of the speakers which were much worse than plagiarism.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 15:11 GMT
#86503
On July 20 2016 00:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/QueenWillRock/status/755406469269450752

The GOP, using music from bands that would never allow them to use their music. Election after Election.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
July 19 2016 15:11 GMT
#86504
On July 19 2016 23:43 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 11:57 Plansix wrote:
On July 19 2016 11:49 acker wrote:
"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to."

LOL

They don't have freedom in the EU, the birthplace of democracy. They lost it.

We replaced it with Shania Law. You stand before Shania Twain and try and impress her with your eloquent defence of your actions. If that don't impress her much, bullet to the back of the head. It's tough but we find it fair.

We have Shakira Law in the EU, if you commit an infraction you have the right to a trial by belly dance-off
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46402 Posts
July 19 2016 15:22 GMT
#86505
On July 20 2016 00:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Everyone is having a field day with the plagiarism

[image loading]

And the democrats, being very smart for once, are saying nothing. That is the best part about this GOP, they will hang themselves.

They could make this a 5 minute issue. Just say "Yep, on speech writer totally lifted that paragraph. We fired him/her. Its shameful and we are sorry." And follow up with, "Michelle gave a great speech in 2008 and we think a lot of the themes still apply today."

BUT THEY WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE "OBAMA BAD!!!"

Edit: Seriously, I am enjoying the fact that Trump can't go 24 hours without fucking up and then doubling down on fucking up.


I agree. Trump and his campaign just seem to have no idea how to not make a tiny problem into a big problem.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:22 GMT
#86506
Does anybody else have the sense that Donald Trump is slipping off the rails? His speeches have always had a rambling, free association quality, but a couple of the recent ones have, as the Republican political consultant Mike Murphy put it, passed from the category of rant to the category of full on “drunk wedding toast.”

Trump’s verbal style has always been distinct. He doesn’t really speak in sentences or paragraphs. His speeches are punctuated by five- or six-word jabs that are sort of strung together by connections that can only be understood through chaos theory: “They want the wall … I dominated with the evangelicals … I won in a landslide … We can’t be the stupid people anymore.”

Occasionally Trump will attempt a sentence longer than eight words, but no matter what subject he starts the sentence with, by the end he has been pulled over to the subject of himself. Here’s an example from the Mike Pence announcement speech: “So one of the primary reasons I chose Mike was I looked at Indiana, and I won Indiana big.” There’s sort of a gravitational narcissistic pull that takes command whenever he attempts to utter a compound thought.

Trump has also always been a little engine fueled by wounded pride. For example, writing in BuzzFeed, McKay Coppins recalls the fusillade of abuse he received from Trump after writing an unflattering profile (he called Mar-a-Lago a “nice, if slightly dated, hotel”).

Trump was so inflamed he tweeted retaliation at Coppins several times a day and at odd hours, calling him a “dishonest slob” and “true garbage with no credibility.” The attacks went on impressively for over two years, which must rank Coppins in the top 100,000 on the list of people Donald Trump resents.

Over the past few weeks these longstanding Trump patterns have gone into hyperdrive. This is a unique moment in American political history in which the mental stability of one of the major party nominees is the dominating subject of conversation.

Everybody is telling Trump to ratchet it down and be more sober, but at a rally near Cincinnati this month and in his Pence announcement speech on Saturday, Trump launched his verbal rocket ship straight through the stratosphere, and it landed somewhere on the dark side of Planet Debbie.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 15:23 GMT
#86507
On July 20 2016 00:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 00:03 Plansix wrote:
On July 19 2016 23:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Everyone is having a field day with the plagiarism

[image loading]

And the democrats, being very smart for once, are saying nothing. That is the best part about this GOP, they will hang themselves.

They could make this a 5 minute issue. Just say "Yep, on speech writer totally lifted that paragraph. We fired him/her. Its shameful and we are sorry." And follow up with, "Michelle gave a great speech in 2008 and we think a lot of the themes still apply today."

BUT THEY WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE "OBAMA BAD!!!"

Edit: Seriously, I am enjoying the fact that Trump can't go 24 hours without fucking up and then doubling down on fucking up.


I agree. Trump and his campaign just seem to have no idea how to not make a tiny problem into a big problem.

It shows a blatant inability to admit they were wrong, even on the tiniest non-issue. The concept of this level of stubbornness in the white house, dealing with other nations, in control of the FBI and CIA, it deeply troubling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46402 Posts
July 19 2016 15:25 GMT
#86508
On July 20 2016 00:11 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:43 KwarK wrote:
On July 19 2016 11:57 Plansix wrote:
On July 19 2016 11:49 acker wrote:
"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to."

LOL

They don't have freedom in the EU, the birthplace of democracy. They lost it.

We replaced it with Shania Law. You stand before Shania Twain and try and impress her with your eloquent defence of your actions. If that don't impress her much, bullet to the back of the head. It's tough but we find it fair.

We have Shakira Law in the EU, if you commit an infraction you have the right to a trial by belly dance-off


Why not combine Shakira and Shania Law:

"On the count of the indictment that the defendant's hips don't lie, we find..."
"That don't impress me much."
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:32 GMT
#86509
Former President George W. Bush in April privately revealed his concerns that Donald Trump could permanently bring down the Republican Party, according to a new report.

“I’m worried that I will be the last Republican president,” Bush said at a reunion for his administration in Dallas, Politico Magazine reported Tuesday morning.

Most members of the Bush family have been outspoken critics of Trump.

Bush and his father, former President George H.W. Bush, both skipped the Republican convention this year, and former Florida governor Jeb Bush said he would not vote for Trump in the general election.

Jeb Bush was favored last year to win the Republican presidential nomination. Trump seemed to especially delight in tearing into Bush as he ascended past him in the polls en route to winning the nomination. He also blamed George W. Bush's administration for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Bob Dole is the only living former GOP presidential nominee to attend this week's convention. In addition to the Bushes, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Mitt Romney are both staying home.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 15:44:33
July 19 2016 15:42 GMT
#86510
Scott Baio ladies and gentleman believes that William Bradford broke the US out of a Socialist system called the Commonwealth and started Capitalism.

Fuck me...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 19 2016 15:46 GMT
#86511
On July 20 2016 00:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Scott Baio ladies and gentleman believes that William Bradford broke the US out of a Socialist system called the Commonwealth and started Capitalism.

Fuck me...


Entertainers, perhaps the least technically or otherwise educated people in our country, being given a podium.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
July 19 2016 15:47 GMT
#86512
Looks like it's not the first time his staff did this

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 15:56 GMT
#86513
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 19 2016 16:08 GMT
#86514
On July 20 2016 00:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 00:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/QueenWillRock/status/755406469269450752

The GOP, using music from bands that would never allow them to use their music. Election after Election.


something about the fact that the type of property right that they seem to respect least is intellectual property

heh heh heh
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 16:09:41
July 19 2016 16:09 GMT
#86515
Idk why republicans don't just blame a speech writer for a fuckup, defend his wife and just get on with it. Poor strategy here. Doubling down is not always the best way to go about things, especially if it is so blatantly obvious and not really that big of a deal.
Question.?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 19 2016 16:12 GMT
#86516
On July 20 2016 01:09 biology]major wrote:
Idk why republicans don't just blame a speech writer for a fuckup, defend his wife and just get on with it. Poor strategy here. Doubling down is not always the best way to go about things, especially if it is so blatantly obvious and not really that big of a deal.


Because she has told the press she wrote it, nobody else.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46402 Posts
July 19 2016 16:15 GMT
#86517
[image loading]

But to be fair, those are such common names for rich, white people...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46402 Posts
July 19 2016 16:19 GMT
#86518
On July 20 2016 01:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:09 biology]major wrote:
Idk why republicans don't just blame a speech writer for a fuckup, defend his wife and just get on with it. Poor strategy here. Doubling down is not always the best way to go about things, especially if it is so blatantly obvious and not really that big of a deal.


Because she has told the press she wrote it, nobody else.


Yeah :/
Melania Trump: "I wrote it"
I wonder if they can even blame the writer who *actually* wrote (and by wrote, I mean partially plagiarized) her speech. Sigh.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 19 2016 16:19 GMT
#86519
On July 20 2016 01:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

But to be fair, those are such common names for rich, white people...

for the record this horse is dead already; lets wait for more livestock to come out
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 16:21:28
July 19 2016 16:21 GMT
#86520
On July 20 2016 00:47 Dan HH wrote:
Looks like it's not the first time his staff did this

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I dunno, that looks like a clear case of serendipity to me... /s
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