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On July 20 2016 01:41 xDaunt wrote:
The response to Melania's speech is highly amusing. Y'all and the media are unhinged.

On July 20 2016 01:49 TheTenthDoc wrote:


You can't say with a straight face that Chelsea giving a speech at the Democratic convention that contained passages identical to Palin's from 2008 wouldn't be received with equal "unhingedness" by the media.

On July 20 2016 01:51 xDaunt wrote:

Sure I can. Politicians rip off speeches all of the time. That, and the mainstream media is in the tank for Hillary anyway, so you can't count on them to take her to task for anything that isn't as obvious as the FBI Director discussing "extreme carelessness."

On July 20 2016 01:45 KwarK wrote:

Do you not believe she did it or not believe she did anything wrong?

Does anybody else have the sense that Donald Trump is slipping off the rails? His speeches have always had a rambling, free association quality, but a couple of the recent ones have, as the Republican political consultant Mike Murphy put it, passed from the category of rant to the category of full on “drunk wedding toast.”

Trump’s verbal style has always been distinct. He doesn’t really speak in sentences or paragraphs. His speeches are punctuated by five- or six-word jabs that are sort of strung together by connections that can only be understood through chaos theory: “They want the wall … I dominated with the evangelicals … I won in a landslide … We can’t be the stupid people anymore.”

Occasionally Trump will attempt a sentence longer than eight words, but no matter what subject he starts the sentence with, by the end he has been pulled over to the subject of himself. Here’s an example from the Mike Pence announcement speech: “So one of the primary reasons I chose Mike was I looked at Indiana, and I won Indiana big.” There’s sort of a gravitational narcissistic pull that takes command whenever he attempts to utter a compound thought.

Trump has also always been a little engine fueled by wounded pride. For example, writing in BuzzFeed, McKay Coppins recalls the fusillade of abuse he received from Trump after writing an unflattering profile (he called Mar-a-Lago a “nice, if slightly dated, hotel”).

Trump was so inflamed he tweeted retaliation at Coppins several times a day and at odd hours, calling him a “dishonest slob” and “true garbage with no credibility.” The attacks went on impressively for over two years, which must rank Coppins in the top 100,000 on the list of people Donald Trump resents.

Over the past few weeks these longstanding Trump patterns have gone into hyperdrive. This is a unique moment in American political history in which the mental stability of one of the major party nominees is the dominating subject of conversation.

Everybody is telling Trump to ratchet it down and be more sober, but at a rally near Cincinnati this month and in his Pence announcement speech on Saturday, Trump launched his verbal rocket ship straight through the stratosphere, and it landed somewhere on the dark side of Planet Debbie.

On July 20 2016 01:53 Doodsmack wrote:


I'm not sure it's very honest to deny the idiocy of plagiarism by implying it happens all the time.

On July 20 2016 01:48 xDaunt wrote:

In all likelihood, someone did it. I'm just amused by the reaction. I'd say that it has an air of desperation to it, but none of you think that Trump can win, anyway.

On July 20 2016 01:59 TheYango wrote:

The funny part is that, as others have pointed out, the media focusing on Melania's speech has diverted attention from how much of a shitshow the rest of the event was, so everyone going all-in on this actually is a net positive for Trump.

On July 20 2016 02:05 xDaunt wrote:

If there's one thing that I've learned over the past year watching the Trump campaign, it's that none of this is going to matter anyway.

On July 20 2016 02:09 Gorsameth wrote:
He is right tho, those who already love Trump do so in the face of a LOT of this sort of stuff, one more piece of evidence in a long line is not going to change their mind.
Getting people who support Trump to change there mind will take something truly big or very personal.
Not evidence of incompetents piece #27543

On July 20 2016 01:49 TheTenthDoc wrote:


You can't say with a straight face that Chelsea giving a speech at the Democratic convention that contained passages identical to Palin's from 2008 wouldn't be received with equal "unhingedness" by the media.

On July 20 2016 02:11 TheYango wrote:

The decider isn't getting Trump supporters to not vote for Trump. It's getting people who don't like either candidate to decide that Trump is shitty enough to be worth voting against, rather than just not voting for either candidate because they both suck.