EPTffs -.-
It's really frustrating
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The_Red_Viper
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ffs -.- It's really frustrating | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
man, the plot just keeps thickening. dude in the picture was apparently on the street when the shooting started. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24466 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:03 CorsairHero wrote: how the fuck does this guy walk down the street and people act like its normal after orlando It's Texas and there's nothing they could do about it. Seems odd to walk around with all the devices,then try to get away, surely he knew someone would take a picture of the black guy with an AR-15 at the BLM rally. Just hope he turns himself in if he's not the shooter. Police picked out a black guy in a tac vest and that guy, two people who weren't the shooters. The first one managed not to get shot, we'll see if this guy makes it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:05 Doraemon wrote: because plansix was talking about being pulled over without reason you're scenario is perfectly legit... Okay, I repeat it for you: Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives? I have been pulled over in Germany a fair number of times, sometimes I had an idea why, sometimes I don't. So what? Show your papers and whatever they want to see, be nice, and try to get it done as fast as possible. If I would every time question them about their motives and decide to be a dick, cuz I don't agree with them... I guess I could easily multiply my time spent with them. But seriously, they have probably better things to do after realizing that there is nothing wrong with me, and I also have better things to do, so let's just hurry up. Oh and I probably also make life a bit better for the next guy meeting those cops. But nah, the grown ass man has to show his hostility right away, and then be surprised that they don't play nice either suddenly. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24466 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:14 ticklishmusic wrote: think the suspicion was warranted though - good to hear the police were professional with the first guy, hope its the same with the latter. https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/751268108417970176 This guy with the gun already handed over his rifle to a cop at the protest after shots were fired to avoid confusion (the opposite of what the NRA tells us), so I wouldn't celebrate too much professionalism. Just more extremely passive, cooperative as f**k black people | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46640 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:06 ticklishmusic wrote: thats open carry for you maybe we can get some sort of gun control now? I'm sure the canned response is either: 1. But more guns would have prevented this, or 2. Guns don't kill people,  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:16 mahrgell wrote: Okay, I repeat it for you: Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives? I have been pulled over in Germany a fair number of times, sometimes I had an idea why, sometimes I don't. So what? Show your papers and whatever they want to see, be nice, and try to get it done as fast as possible. If I would every time question them about their motives and decide to be a dick, cuz I don't agree with them... I guess I could easily multiply my time spent with them. But seriously, they have probably better things to do after realizing that there is nothing wrong with me, and I also have better things to do, so let's just hurry up. Oh and I probably also make life a bit better for the next guy meeting those cops. But nah, the grown ass man has to show his hostility right away, and then be surprised that they don't play nice either suddenly. I will likely ask why I was pulled over before deciding it is bullshit. I've been pulled over after leaving dinner for a tail light that was out. But it wasn't out, they just wanted to see if I was drunk. But they can't pull people over on the off chance they might be drunk. So after the cop came back and gave me a "warning" I got out of my car and confirmed my light wasn't out. He was pissed I "got out of the car when he told me not to." | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46640 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: A nice little clip from Trevor Noah, considering we were just talking about how we can be both pro-black and pro-blue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0awqth0XI That was pretty good. And fuck those cops who shot that poor kid laying on the ground. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24466 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:22 biology]major wrote: All this does is increases the tension cops have when dealing with minorities even more than present, and will likely result in even more shootings from both sides. There is too much distrust among these communities at this point. Think about being a cop in a black community right now, you are completely fucked. Everyone is out to kill you in the mind of the cop, what do you do?. They need a political leader to bring these reforms, this is just disorganized garbage This increases tensions, but we have no idea who's fault this is atm. What also heightens tensions is giving the guy who shot Philando Castile 24+ hours to collect himself before giving an interview, but handcuffed his girlfriend and questioned her for hours right after killing him. | ||
KwarK
United States44404 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:03 CorsairHero wrote: https://twitter.com/DallasPD/status/751262719584575488 how the fuck does this guy walk down the street and people act like its normal after orlando There is a video that exonerates that guy, before we go all witchhunt. That guy isn't the shooter as far as people know. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:28 GreenHorizons wrote: This increases tensions, but we have no idea who's fault this is atm. What also heightens tensions is giving the guy who shot Philando Castile 24+ hours to collect himself before giving an interview, but handcuffed his girlfriend and questioned her for hours right after killing him. What also heightens tensions, and undermines your position in the eyes of many who are uncertain on this issue, is failing to properly condemn the people who attack policemen. And no, it's not just "racists" who see something wrong with the fact that issues that the "black community" (usually but not always legitimately) sees as unfair, often are followed by more violence. A lot of people respect the police far more than you evidently do and while they are willing to acknowledge and correct for bad police behavior, you get negative sympathy for enabling violence against the police. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24466 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:35 LegalLord wrote: What also heightens tensions, and undermines your position in the eyes of many who are uncertain on this issue, is failing to properly condemn the people who attack policemen. And no, it's not just "racists" who see something wrong with the fact that issues that the "black community" (usually but not always legitimately) sees as unfair, often are followed by more violence. A lot of people respect the police far more than you evidently do and while they are willing to acknowledge and correct for bad police behavior, you get negative sympathy for enabling violence against the police. Who has failed to "properly condemn" (whatever that means)? I didn't call whatever group you're referencing racist so I don't even know what the rest of that is about. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:38 GreenHorizons wrote: This is how news organizations get innocent people killed. https://twitter.com/FOX61News/status/751263853141516288 By asking for civilians to help find a suspected serial killer? | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:16 mahrgell wrote: Okay, I repeat it for you: Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives? I have been pulled over in Germany a fair number of times, sometimes I had an idea why, sometimes I don't. So what? Show your papers and whatever they want to see, be nice, and try to get it done as fast as possible. If I would every time question them about their motives and decide to be a dick, cuz I don't agree with them... I guess I could easily multiply my time spent with them. But seriously, they have probably better things to do after realizing that there is nothing wrong with me, and I also have better things to do, so let's just hurry up. Oh and I probably also make life a bit better for the next guy meeting those cops. But nah, the grown ass man has to show his hostility right away, and then be surprised that they don't play nice either suddenly. If a random stranger asks you for directions, you don't go all "yes sir, right over there sir", you give them directions. If a cop pulls you over and asks you a question, you answer the question. If the cop is rude as fuck or asking you to do something they don't have the right to demand, you should not be like "yer sir, of course, whatever you want". A cop violating your rights is not acceptable on the basis of being a cop. The only thing keeping you from calling them out is either annoyance (they could make your day longer or some other bullshit) or fear (death or beaten). So when you get pulled over in Germany and you don't understand why a cop is asking you to do something and you'd like to hear their reasoning, do you expect to get beaten or shot? Or if you comply with their demands but they don't like your tone/attitude, do you expect to get beaten or shot. Don't fucking defend these assholes who abuse their authority. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24466 Posts
On July 08 2016 13:39 LegalLord wrote: By asking for civilians to help find a suspected serial killer? The tweet says he shot cops, killed three. What do you think happens when some idiot hero with a gun sees a cop killer? Personal note: It would be "mass murderer" | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
this is why we have innocent until proven guilty. | ||
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