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On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 10:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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True but no way he gettin shot I wish. I just hope that the strikes/ rallies are relatively peaceful, and that there's actually a trial for the cop. We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8ORn34M.jpg) I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females?
Than *white* females?
I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male.
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On July 08 2016 12:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
theyve got one in custody. one is still active i think
the one is custody turned himself over and maybe not related to the roof top shooters iirc
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On July 08 2016 12:48 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
theyve got one in custody. one is still active i think the one is custody turned himself over and maybe not related to the roof top shooters iirc
yeah just saw that update
good on the police if so...
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On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 09:43 OuchyDathurts wrote:
God damn Don Lemon crushed this
I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn.
Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you.
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On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you.
by randomly pulling someone over?
so, is this where the NRA has suggested everyone to be armed and protecting themselves?
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On July 08 2016 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 10:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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I wish.
I just hope that the strikes/ rallies are relatively peaceful, and that there's actually a trial for the cop. We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females? Than *white* females? I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male.
Why can't people use women, which is the better noun? So I don't have to think of this every time.
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On July 08 2016 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 10:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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I wish.
I just hope that the strikes/ rallies are relatively peaceful, and that there's actually a trial for the cop. We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females? Than *white* females? I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male.
no im talking about discrimination black males face in comparison to discrimination black females face
liek for example, i get the suspicion it's much much more dangerous in regards to police to be a black male than a black female
GH is black right?
that's why i asked him
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On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you.
Cool, then we will get along. They don't get special treatment just because they got a job as a cop. It is really not that impressive.
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On July 08 2016 12:50 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you. by randomly pulling someone over? so, is this where the NRA has suggested everyone to be armed and protecting themselves?
They get real quite once the topic of black people getting fire arms. Someone made a joke a while ago that if the Black Panthers movement suddenly returned in force, gun control would be the new favorite topic of Republicans.
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On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. The uniform does not impress me. I don't call cops "sir". I'm not a dick. But some random cop pulls me for no reason, I see zero reason to accept him abusing his power or "yes, sir" my way through it. What is he going to do, arrest me for no reason and have the city give me a free summer vacation?
You don't really act like a 'grown ass man' when you make posts like this.
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On July 08 2016 12:51 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
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We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females? Than *white* females? I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male. Why can't people use women, which is the better noun? So I don't have to think of this every time. + Show Spoiler +
lol I understood what he said, which is why I used "women"  Doesn't matter to me really, since both "female" and "women" denote sex.
On July 08 2016 12:51 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
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We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females? Than *white* females? I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male. no im talking about discrimination black males face in comparison to discrimination black females face liek for example, i get the suspicion it's much much more dangerous in regards to police to be a black male than a black female GH is black right? that's why i asked him
Ah gotcha. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you that black men are probably more at-risk for physical oppression/ being harmed by police than black women, but I'm looking forward to hearing GH's response.
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On July 08 2016 12:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. The uniform does not impress me. I don't call cops "sir". I'm not a dick. But some random cop pulls me for no reason, I see zero reason to accept him abusing his power or "yes, sir" my way through it. What is he going to do, arrest me for no reason and have the city give me a free summer vacation? You don't really act like a 'grown ass man' when you make posts like this.
I will somehow learn to survive in this harsh world with your disapproval.
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On July 08 2016 12:51 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:40 travis wrote:On July 08 2016 12:32 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 08 2016 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 10:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 08 2016 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
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We've been peaceful. When's the police's turn start? Yeah, and the thing that pisses me off even more than the bullshit "correction" of "All" Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter is when they say "Blue Lives Matter" as a response to these needless executions of blacks by cops. Are you fucking kidding me -.-' I don't get why you can't sympathize with the message from both. Good cops die in the line of duty serving their country when they shouldn't. I agree, but it's never claimed as both... it always ends up being a response to Black Lives Matter, especially since the people who say All/ Blue Lives Matter as a response to Black Lives Matter completely miss the point of Black Lives Matter... that no one is saying that other lives *don't* matter. By saying Black, they're not saying Not Blue/ Not Other. It's just that the Blue/ Other lives aren't being persecuted against in the same way. I like this analogy: I think part of the problem has to do with the very phrase 'Black Lives Matter' being a pretty shitty slogan to rally behind. From the get-go before you even know what the message is, it's already charged with racial tension of 'us vs them'. That and the fact that it's so disorganized and tends to do really shitty things that hinder the good intentions behind it's conception. Something needs to be done but the way BLM often goes about it is self-detrimental to it's own ends. I think that the racial tension and the "us vs. them" mentality existed long before the recent movement was coined as Black Lives Matter. Based on the history of violence and oppression aimed towards blacks in this country, it's pretty much *always* been "us vs. them", and it's been 100% caused by the oppressors and privileged people, not the blacks. 10,000 times this^ It's always been us vs them police have never not been like this. This is actually the best they've ever behaved, even though people act like this started when the videos started showing up. do you think it's way worse for black males than females? Than *white* females? I think there's plenty of prejudice and oppression to go around unfortunately, and I know that women are constantly afraid of being alone in certain areas/ getting raped/ kidnapped, which I'd imagine is a comparable fear to black men constantly being afraid of cops/ assumed by others to be dangerous or unfriendly. Certainly one difference, however, is that women might feel safer around cops, while black men might feel less worried about being messed with? All I can say is that I'm happy that I'm a white male. no im talking about discrimination black males face in comparison to discrimination black females face liek for example, i get the suspicion it's much much more dangerous in regards to police to be a black male than a black female GH is black right? that's why i asked him
Women are less likely to be killed but are often rape victims. Take the tendency to not believe rape victims, the tendency to believe cops, and the low value of black women in society, and you have a perfect victim.
Black women have it hard, it doesn't really matter which is worse to me, so I would just default to it being them since they are so constantly treated like trash, scratch that, trash has well regulated and protected space in America.
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On July 08 2016 12:50 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you. by randomly pulling someone over?
Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives?
I've been targeted before. Had a cop follow me for 20 minutes to the middle of nowhere just to pull me over once I reached a mates house and asked to see my license. I was driving an old bomb and he probably thought it was stolen, but it doesn't really matter. I was annoyed at being followed for so long, but I greeted him politely, he was short but professional and I was on my way in minutes. If I'd given him a blasting because I couldn't control myself I imagine the encounter would have gone quite differently. Keeping your emotions in check is never a bad idea.
And to be absolutely clear this is in no way justification for cops shooting people.
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how the fuck does this guy walk down the street and people act like its normal after orlando
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On July 08 2016 12:58 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. The uniform does not impress me. I don't call cops "sir". I'm not a dick. But some random cop pulls me for no reason, I see zero reason to accept him abusing his power or "yes, sir" my way through it. What is he going to do, arrest me for no reason and have the city give me a free summer vacation? You don't really act like a 'grown ass man' when you make posts like this. I will somehow learn to survive in this harsh world with your disapproval.
The perfect catch-all answer to anyone questioning the logic of your positions.
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On July 08 2016 13:03 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 12:50 Doraemon wrote:On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you. by randomly pulling someone over? Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives? I've been targeted before. Had a cop follow me for 20 minutes to the middle of nowhere just to pull me over once I reached a mates house and asked to see my license. I was driving an old bomb and he probably thought it was stolen, but it doesn't really matter. I was annoyed at being followed for so long, but I greeted him politely, he was short but professional and I was on my way in minutes. If I'd given him a blasting because I couldn't control myself I imagine the encounter would have gone quite differently. Keeping your emotions in check is never a bad idea. And to be absolutely clear this is in no way justification for cops shooting people.
because plansix was talking about being pulled over without reason
you're scenario is perfectly legit...
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thats open carry for you
maybe we can get some sort of gun control now?
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On July 08 2016 13:05 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2016 13:03 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 12:50 Doraemon wrote:On July 08 2016 12:49 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 12:45 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 12:42 Amarok wrote:On July 08 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 08 2016 10:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I do that anyways -shrug- Do most people just act like dicks to cops or something? No. I treat cops with the exact same amount of respect I treat random people. If I feel they pulled me over for no reason, I'm not polite. This is just stupid. I mean it's your prerogative to do this, but is there any actual reasoning behind it or is it just big talk for the internet? I'm Australian. We don't have the same kinds of problems with our police force as America, but I'm more polite/courteous to cops (even when I'm being inconvenienced) than a random person for a few reasons. a) I'm not a dick b) They're doing tough but necessary work and I want them to continue doing so c) They have the ability to seriously fuck up my day if I act like a dick to them d) I'm not a dick Even if it "feels" like you've been pulled over for no reason, they probably have one and even if they don't being respectful and courteous will absolutely minimise the chance that you have any issues. Why wouldn't you want that? That said, the Minneapolis incident looks absolutely awful. Absolutely abhorrent police work at best. I'm a grown ass man and people get the exact amount of respect they earn. Maybe the cop is just applying this exact principle to you. by randomly pulling someone over? Who says it's random? Just because you're not aware of their motives? I've been targeted before. Had a cop follow me for 20 minutes to the middle of nowhere just to pull me over once I reached a mates house and asked to see my license. I was driving an old bomb and he probably thought it was stolen, but it doesn't really matter. I was annoyed at being followed for so long, but I greeted him politely, he was short but professional and I was on my way in minutes. If I'd given him a blasting because I couldn't control myself I imagine the encounter would have gone quite differently. Keeping your emotions in check is never a bad idea. And to be absolutely clear this is in no way justification for cops shooting people. because plansix was talking about being pulled over without reason you're scenario is perfectly legit...
He said if he "feels like" he's been pulled over for no reason. I felt the exact same way in that encounter. My point is you don't always know why a cop is looking at you, so just answer their questions and get on with it.
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