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On July 06 2016 04:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Let's turn all of the shit coming from the Sanders camp and flip it to a scenario where Sanders won with a similar margin. Completely made up scenario, but Sanders supporters seem to be good at those.
I as a Hillary supporter refuse to vote for Sanders because I think he's a nut and has done nothing to earn my support.
Hillary hasn't endorsed because Sanders hasn't given on positions
The superdelegates don't vote till July
Do these seem reasonable at all?
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't intend to vote for Hillary, but rather for Trump, because DNC / HRC fucked with us so hard this democratic nomination by election fraud, wide-spread rampant voter supression, dirty tricks, mainstream media manipulation, etc.
I could care less what Hillary's policies are. God knows that woman changes her views every week depending on who her audience is.
The establishment undermined us hard, took away our basic voting right, and scoffed at us when we threatened to not vote for Hillary by trying to intimidate us with the Trump alternative. Well guess what? I'm voting Trump to bring down Hillary / DNC. At least with Trump you know what you're getting.
Ah. So you don't care that an elected Trump will mean a Supreme Court that will undermine, block and/or rollback every progressive initiative, including every single issue and policy that Bernie has campaigned upon, for the next 20-30 years, including recent victories like gay marriage, or that Trump changes policies on a daily basis. Or that I've yet to see proof of this "voter suppression", because the behavior of Bernie supporters in Nevada was disgraceful. Just going to keep drinking the diehard "Berniebro" kool-aid, to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Gotcha. I can't afford to say I have the same luxury to vote based on un-substantiated feelings and vague accusations, though my vote is unlikely to matter given Maryland.
Trump is by far the most moderate republican you will get, he openly praised planned parenthood for providing all of their other services besides abortion, he openly shit on the bush campaign and their horrible execution of he Iraq war. He is pro gay rights and doesn't give a shit about the homophobes. If you are afraid of your progressive agenda being reversed by trump, I'm afraid that's the least of your worries.
Trump might actually make moves to lessen the influence of special interest, which is something the Bernie supporters would absolutely advocate
I'm in Maryland too, 4 votes from my family for trump, and I imagine most trump supporters are in the shadows, right now it is easier to come out as being gay than that you will be voting for trump.
Oh, so him appointing anti-LGBT SC justices, that Heritage and the Republicans will push for and he has actually promised to do, will somehow help me, just because he says he's friends with "the gays" doesn't mean he actually is. Remind me how #askthegays went again?
Where in MD are you living, btw? That being said, what? I served as an election judge for HoCo primaries, and there was mostly Republican voters (and mostly Trump supporters, from our polling results). Granted, this was mostly because the Dem primaries were mostly over, and HoCo outside of Columbia is mostly Red, but to say that being a Trump supporter is difficult, when there's a massively vocal safespace in Reddit and /pol/ for them (that frequently like to brigade everywhere else but hey), well.
Also this notion that being a Trump supporter is harder than coming out as gay is both ludicrously untrue and mildly offensive, as a gay man.
On July 06 2016 04:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Let's turn all of the shit coming from the Sanders camp and flip it to a scenario where Sanders won with a similar margin. Completely made up scenario, but Sanders supporters seem to be good at those.
I as a Hillary supporter refuse to vote for Sanders because I think he's a nut and has done nothing to earn my support.
Hillary hasn't endorsed because Sanders hasn't given on positions
The superdelegates don't vote till July
Do these seem reasonable at all?
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't intend to vote for Hillary, but rather for Trump, because DNC / HRC fucked with us so hard this democratic nomination by election fraud, wide-spread rampant voter supression, dirty tricks, mainstream media manipulation, etc.
I could care less what Hillary's policies are. God knows that woman changes her views every week depending on who her audience is.
The establishment undermined us hard, took away our basic voting right, and scoffed at us when we threatened to not vote for Hillary by trying to intimidate us with the Trump alternative. Well guess what? I'm voting Trump to bring down Hillary / DNC. At least with Trump you know what you're getting.
Ah. So you don't care that an elected Trump will mean a Supreme Court that will undermine, block and/or rollback every progressive initiative, including every single issue and policy that Bernie has campaigned upon, for the next 20-30 years, including recent victories like gay marriage, or that Trump changes policies on a daily basis. Or that I've yet to see proof of this "voter suppression", because the behavior of Bernie supporters in Nevada was disgraceful. Just going to keep drinking the diehard "Berniebro" kool-aid, to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Gotcha. I can't afford to say I have the same luxury to vote based on un-substantiated feelings and vague accusations, though my vote is unlikely to matter given Maryland.
Trump is by far the most moderate republican you will get, he openly praised planned parenthood for providing all of their other services besides abortion, he openly shit on the bush campaign and their horrible execution of he Iraq war. He is pro gay rights and doesn't give a shit about the homophobes. If you are afraid of your progressive agenda being reversed by trump, I'm afraid that's the least of your worries.
Trump might actually make moves to lessen the influence of special interest, which is something the Bernie supporters would absolutely advocate
I'm in Maryland too, 4 votes from my family for trump, and I imagine most trump supporters are in the shadows, right now it is easier to come out as being gay than that you will be voting for trump.
Oh, so him appointing anti-LGBT SC justices, that Heritage and the Republicans will push for and he has actually promised to do, will somehow help me, just because he says he's friends with "the gays" doesn't mean he actually is. Remind me how #askthegays went again?
Where in MD are you living, btw? That being said, what? I served as an election judge for HoCo primaries, and there was mostly Republican voters (and mostly Trump supporters, from our polling results). Granted, this was mostly because the Dem primaries were mostly over, and HoCo outside of Columbia is mostly Red, but to say that being a Trump supporter is difficult, when there's a massively vocal safespace in Reddit and /pol/ for them (that frequently like to brigade everywhere else but hey), well.
Also this notion that being a Trump supporter is harder than coming out as gay is both ludicrously untrue and mildly offensive, as a gay man.
That is because some people believe that being repressed is having their feelings hurt when they express their opinion. Rather than fearing for your life simply because the surrounding culture does not value your existence. Two of my high school friends picked up our buddy at the hospital after he got the shit kicked out of him because he was gay. He didn’t call his parents because they didn’t know and he was a shitty liar. A lot has changed in the 90s, but not everywhere.
On July 06 2016 04:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Let's turn all of the shit coming from the Sanders camp and flip it to a scenario where Sanders won with a similar margin. Completely made up scenario, but Sanders supporters seem to be good at those.
I as a Hillary supporter refuse to vote for Sanders because I think he's a nut and has done nothing to earn my support.
Hillary hasn't endorsed because Sanders hasn't given on positions
The superdelegates don't vote till July
Do these seem reasonable at all?
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't intend to vote for Hillary, but rather for Trump, because DNC / HRC fucked with us so hard this democratic nomination by election fraud, wide-spread rampant voter supression, dirty tricks, mainstream media manipulation, etc.
I could care less what Hillary's policies are. God knows that woman changes her views every week depending on who her audience is.
The establishment undermined us hard, took away our basic voting right, and scoffed at us when we threatened to not vote for Hillary by trying to intimidate us with the Trump alternative. Well guess what? I'm voting Trump to bring down Hillary / DNC. At least with Trump you know what you're getting.
Ah. So you don't care that an elected Trump will mean a Supreme Court that will undermine, block and/or rollback every progressive initiative, including every single issue and policy that Bernie has campaigned upon, for the next 20-30 years, including recent victories like gay marriage, or that Trump changes policies on a daily basis. Or that I've yet to see proof of this "voter suppression", because the behavior of Bernie supporters in Nevada was disgraceful. Just going to keep drinking the diehard "Berniebro" kool-aid, to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Gotcha. I can't afford to say I have the same luxury to vote based on un-substantiated feelings and vague accusations, though my vote is unlikely to matter given Maryland.
Trump is by far the most moderate republican you will get, he openly praised planned parenthood for providing all of their other services besides abortion, he openly shit on the bush campaign and their horrible execution of he Iraq war. He is pro gay rights and doesn't give a shit about the homophobes. If you are afraid of your progressive agenda being reversed by trump, I'm afraid that's the least of your worries.
Trump might actually make moves to lessen the influence of special interest, which is something the Bernie supporters would absolutely advocate
I'm in Maryland too, 4 votes from my family for trump, and I imagine most trump supporters are in the shadows, right now it is easier to come out as being gay than that you will be voting for trump.
Oh, so him appointing anti-LGBT SC justices, that Heritage and the Republicans will push for and he has actually promised to do, will somehow help me, just because he says he's friends with "the gays" doesn't mean he actually is. Remind me how #askthegays went again?
Where in MD are you living, btw? That being said, what? I served as an election judge for HoCo primaries, and there was mostly Republican voters (and mostly Trump supporters, from our polling results). Granted, this was mostly because the Dem primaries were mostly over, and HoCo outside of Columbia is mostly Red, but to say that being a Trump supporter is difficult, when there's a massively vocal safespace in Reddit and /pol/ for them (that frequently like to brigade everywhere else but hey), well.
Also this notion that being a Trump supporter is harder than coming out as gay is both ludicrously untrue and mildly offensive, as a gay man.
That is because some people believe that being repressed is having their feelings hurt when they express their opinion. Rather than fearing for your life simply because the surrounding culture does not value your existence. Two of my high school friends picked up our buddy at the hospital after he got the shit kicked out of him because he was gay. He didn’t call his parents because they didn’t know and he was a shitty liar.
Yea you're such a tough guy it's only getting feelings hurt
On July 06 2016 04:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Let's turn all of the shit coming from the Sanders camp and flip it to a scenario where Sanders won with a similar margin. Completely made up scenario, but Sanders supporters seem to be good at those.
I as a Hillary supporter refuse to vote for Sanders because I think he's a nut and has done nothing to earn my support.
Hillary hasn't endorsed because Sanders hasn't given on positions
The superdelegates don't vote till July
Do these seem reasonable at all?
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't intend to vote for Hillary, but rather for Trump, because DNC / HRC fucked with us so hard this democratic nomination by election fraud, wide-spread rampant voter supression, dirty tricks, mainstream media manipulation, etc.
I could care less what Hillary's policies are. God knows that woman changes her views every week depending on who her audience is.
The establishment undermined us hard, took away our basic voting right, and scoffed at us when we threatened to not vote for Hillary by trying to intimidate us with the Trump alternative. Well guess what? I'm voting Trump to bring down Hillary / DNC. At least with Trump you know what you're getting.
Ah. So you don't care that an elected Trump will mean a Supreme Court that will undermine, block and/or rollback every progressive initiative, including every single issue and policy that Bernie has campaigned upon, for the next 20-30 years, including recent victories like gay marriage, or that Trump changes policies on a daily basis. Or that I've yet to see proof of this "voter suppression", because the behavior of Bernie supporters in Nevada was disgraceful. Just going to keep drinking the diehard "Berniebro" kool-aid, to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Gotcha. I can't afford to say I have the same luxury to vote based on un-substantiated feelings and vague accusations, though my vote is unlikely to matter given Maryland.
Trump is by far the most moderate republican you will get, he openly praised planned parenthood for providing all of their other services besides abortion, he openly shit on the bush campaign and their horrible execution of he Iraq war. He is pro gay rights and doesn't give a shit about the homophobes. If you are afraid of your progressive agenda being reversed by trump, I'm afraid that's the least of your worries.
Trump might actually make moves to lessen the influence of special interest, which is something the Bernie supporters would absolutely advocate
I'm in Maryland too, 4 votes from my family for trump, and I imagine most trump supporters are in the shadows, right now it is easier to come out as being gay than that you will be voting for trump.
Oh, so him appointing anti-LGBT SC justices, that Heritage and the Republicans will push for and he has actually promised to do, will somehow help me, just because he says he's friends with "the gays" doesn't mean he actually is. Remind me how #askthegays went again?
Where in MD are you living, btw? That being said, what? I served as an election judge for HoCo primaries, and there was mostly Republican voters (and mostly Trump supporters, from our polling results). Granted, this was mostly because the Dem primaries were mostly over, and HoCo outside of Columbia is mostly Red, but to say that being a Trump supporter is difficult, when there's a massively vocal safespace in Reddit and /pol/ for them (that frequently like to brigade everywhere else but hey), well.
Also this notion that being a Trump supporter is harder than coming out as gay is both ludicrously untrue and mildly offensive, as a gay man.
I'm from MoCo. I love my state though and feel bad knowing my vote is meaningless. And I could care less about safe spaces on the Internet, I'm talking about being a young adult in real life. you should try it then, come out as being gay in public and then as being a trump supporter. Lemme know which one nets you more angst
On July 06 2016 05:53 CorsairHero wrote: Just a reminder that HRC flipped on gay marriage 3 years ago and a year after Obama
And when did the rest of America? The country as a whole has only begone to turn towards acceptance relatively recently and having politicians follow the will of their voters should be a good thing Oo
On July 06 2016 05:53 CorsairHero wrote: Just a reminder that HRC flipped on gay marriage 3 years ago and a year after Obama
P6, Trump supporters got the shit kicked out of them too
I am more than aware of her stances and history on LGBT rights (as well as Trump's), and I do not need any more straight-splaining in this regards; I am aware that she did not publicly change her stance on gay marriage until 2013. That being said, she's still been consistently in favor of LGBT rights and worked with the community, has the endorsement of every organization focused on LGBT rights, and I can trust that she will nominate justices that will be favorable to progressive causes and LGBT rights.
On July 06 2016 04:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Let's turn all of the shit coming from the Sanders camp and flip it to a scenario where Sanders won with a similar margin. Completely made up scenario, but Sanders supporters seem to be good at those.
I as a Hillary supporter refuse to vote for Sanders because I think he's a nut and has done nothing to earn my support.
Hillary hasn't endorsed because Sanders hasn't given on positions
The superdelegates don't vote till July
Do these seem reasonable at all?
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't intend to vote for Hillary, but rather for Trump, because DNC / HRC fucked with us so hard this democratic nomination by election fraud, wide-spread rampant voter supression, dirty tricks, mainstream media manipulation, etc.
I could care less what Hillary's policies are. God knows that woman changes her views every week depending on who her audience is.
The establishment undermined us hard, took away our basic voting right, and scoffed at us when we threatened to not vote for Hillary by trying to intimidate us with the Trump alternative. Well guess what? I'm voting Trump to bring down Hillary / DNC. At least with Trump you know what you're getting.
Ah. So you don't care that an elected Trump will mean a Supreme Court that will undermine, block and/or rollback every progressive initiative, including every single issue and policy that Bernie has campaigned upon, for the next 20-30 years, including recent victories like gay marriage, or that Trump changes policies on a daily basis. Or that I've yet to see proof of this "voter suppression", because the behavior of Bernie supporters in Nevada was disgraceful. Just going to keep drinking the diehard "Berniebro" kool-aid, to be edgy and anti-establishment.
Gotcha. I can't afford to say I have the same luxury to vote based on un-substantiated feelings and vague accusations, though my vote is unlikely to matter given Maryland.
Trump is by far the most moderate republican you will get, he openly praised planned parenthood for providing all of their other services besides abortion, he openly shit on the bush campaign and their horrible execution of he Iraq war. He is pro gay rights and doesn't give a shit about the homophobes. If you are afraid of your progressive agenda being reversed by trump, I'm afraid that's the least of your worries.
Trump might actually make moves to lessen the influence of special interest, which is something the Bernie supporters would absolutely advocate
I'm in Maryland too, 4 votes from my family for trump, and I imagine most trump supporters are in the shadows, right now it is easier to come out as being gay than that you will be voting for trump.
Oh, so him appointing anti-LGBT SC justices, that Heritage and the Republicans will push for and he has actually promised to do, will somehow help me, just because he says he's friends with "the gays" doesn't mean he actually is. Remind me how #askthegays went again?
Where in MD are you living, btw? That being said, what? I served as an election judge for HoCo primaries, and there was mostly Republican voters (and mostly Trump supporters, from our polling results). Granted, this was mostly because the Dem primaries were mostly over, and HoCo outside of Columbia is mostly Red, but to say that being a Trump supporter is difficult, when there's a massively vocal safespace in Reddit and /pol/ for them (that frequently like to brigade everywhere else but hey), well.
Also this notion that being a Trump supporter is harder than coming out as gay is both ludicrously untrue and mildly offensive, as a gay man.
I'm from MoCo. I love my state though and feel bad knowing my vote is meaningless. And I could care less about safe spaces on the Internet, I'm talking about being a young adult in real life. you should try it then, come out as being gay in public and then as being a trump supporter. Lemme know which one nets you more angst
Oh, MoCo? Well I can kind of see it. Mostly urban/Dem, feeds into DC so everyone, even the Republicans, already hate Trump on principle. In HoCo it's mostly just Trump supporters and Columbia.
As for coming out in public, oh please. I still can't come out to my extended family who live in China and to my childhood friends and acquaintances, while my parents and I still won't openly discuss it and are pretending we didn't have the conversation. It took me 6-7 years to even peek out of the closet, and I'm still not close to being fully out. And I'm still fairly lucky because I am neither being killed or prosecuted, as in some countries, or have been either forced into straight rehabilitation therapy or was cut off in uni/left homeless. That being said, being Chinese there is a heavy emphasis on having children, and as an only child, I struggled (am still struggling) with all the angst I've internalized over the years.
So yes, this idea that being a Trump supporter is more difficult than being gay is highly alien to me, given my own experiences and what with living in HoCo.
Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way
That’s what we have done. Now let me tell you what we found:
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).
None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.
Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.
This is my favorite part
To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
This also means they won’t bring charges against the previous SoS and other staff members who might have violated similar rules during this administration or the Bush administration.
On July 06 2016 05:53 CorsairHero wrote: Just a reminder that HRC flipped on gay marriage 3 years ago and a year after Obama
And when did the rest of America? The country as a whole has only begone to turn towards acceptance relatively recently and having politicians follow the will of their voters should be a good thing Oo
"I have a strong record. I have a great commitment to this issue."
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
Bill Clinton meets privately with Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton vows to reappoint current Attorney General.
On July 06 2016 05:53 CorsairHero wrote: Just a reminder that HRC flipped on gay marriage 3 years ago and a year after Obama
And when did the rest of America? The country as a whole has only begone to turn towards acceptance relatively recently and having politicians follow the will of their voters should be a good thing Oo
What's important is why one changes their opinion and acknowledges where they were mistaken. It's something Hillary rarely, if ever, does when she shifts a position or "apologizes".
Clinton hasn't given any explanation for her change or what was wrong about her previous positions so it's fair to say we don't really know her personal opinion, and that if the public changed it's mind on gay marriage she would too, since public opinion seems to be the center of her position.
And no "following the will of their voters" is not always a good thing, slavery stands out as a particularly obvious example. Being against slavery shouldn't be a matter of feeling the political winds, but a principled position, same goes for gay marriage and many other issues.
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
yes, lets blame Obama for people needing replacing while it his job to appoint replacements...
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
yes, lets blame Obama for people needing replacing while it his job to appoint replacements...
need some more tin foil for that hat?
in the courts, judges recuse themselves when there is the appearance of impropriety. luckily, the same standard doesnt apply to these types of investigations. obama also publically declared for clinton how many days ago?
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
yes, lets blame Obama for people needing replacing while it his job to appoint replacements...
need some more tin foil for that hat?
I think it's pretty obvious I'm not a fan of DaPhreak, but come on. There's nothing "tin foil" about that.
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
Bill Clinton meets privately with Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton vows to reappoint current Attorney General.
lol.
So what you are saying is that there is no way you would believed them unless they said “We are coming for her, she will never be president as long as we live!”?
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
Bill Clinton meets privately with Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton vows to reappoint current Attorney General.
lol.
So what you are saying is that there is no way you would believed them unless they said “We are coming for her, she will never be president as long as we live!”?
i didnt say anything. i just found it funny that this is the way the system worked out in this case, which i hope more people would find depressing regardless of the results.
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
yes, lets blame Obama for people needing replacing while it his job to appoint replacements...
need some more tin foil for that hat?
in the courts, judges recuse themselves when there is the appearance of impropriety. luckily, the same standard doesnt apply to these types of investigations. obama also publically declared for clinton how many days ago?
Yes, damn the Democratic president for publicly declaring himself for the Democratic nominee, like they have all done since god knows when.
And lets be real. under this line of thinking no one could have done this investigation. Anyone appointed under a Democratic president is suspect of aiding the Democratic nominee and everyone appointed under a Republican is suspect of undermining the opposing nominee....
On July 06 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote: not a criminal, just incompetent.
interesting that the FBI director was appointed by Obama. the attorney general was appointed by Obama, and previously by Bill Clinton. i wonder where the justice department is going to come out on this. is there any indication there will be independent counsel/investigation into this?
Bill Clinton meets privately with Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton vows to reappoint current Attorney General.
lol.
So what you are saying is that there is no way you would believed them unless they said “We are coming for her, she will never be president as long as we live!”?
i didnt say anything. i just found it funny that this is the way the system worked out in this case, which i hope more people would find depressing regardless of the results.
I question why you are in the legal field at all if you have so little faith in people to be impartial.
EPT
