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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 10 2016 17:33 GMT
#80421
Chapter 11 liquidation is a thing, so don't be so sure.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 10 2016 17:34 GMT
#80422
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2016 17:42 GMT
#80423
I'm really sorry for this lol

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[image loading]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 10 2016 17:42 GMT
#80424
On June 11 2016 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Chapter 11 liquidation is a thing, so don't be so sure.

We will see. It also lets them move the debt away from other sections of the company and prevent collection until the appeal is over. The way that case was handled by the judge and the damages are...questionable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
June 10 2016 17:46 GMT
#80425
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 17:52:43
June 10 2016 17:50 GMT
#80426
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.


I don't even think Hillary uses that twitter it's her campaign staff that runs it.

And it's not really 'stepping into it' when it's literally something you could respond to anything he said with. There wasn't really anything clever about the timing r context of it (in fact she/herstaff just set herself up with the 'deleted' keyword and emails), it was more just the content that people found entertaining.
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 17:53:01
June 10 2016 17:52 GMT
#80427
On June 11 2016 02:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.


I don't even think Hillary uses that twitter it's her campaign staff that runs it.

And it's not really 'stepping into it' when it's literally something you could respond to anything he said with. There wasn't really anything clever about the timing r context of it (in fact she just set herself up with the 'deleted' keyword and emails), it was more just the content that people found entertaining.


My objection is to the assumptions. Everyone here just swallows all bad assumptions about HRC here without establishing anything. You don't get to make nasty inferences for free.

INC: list of dismissed non-scandals that can't survive scrutiny outside of Breitbart
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2016 17:53 GMT
#80428
On June 11 2016 02:52 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.


I don't even think Hillary uses that twitter it's her campaign staff that runs it.

And it's not really 'stepping into it' when it's literally something you could respond to anything he said with. There wasn't really anything clever about the timing r context of it (in fact she just set herself up with the 'deleted' keyword and emails), it was more just the content that people found entertaining.


My objection is to the assumptions. Everyone here just swallows all bad assumptions about HRC here without establishing anything. You don't get to make nasty inferences for free.


It goes both ways both sides are guilty of it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 10 2016 17:56 GMT
#80429
On June 11 2016 02:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Chapter 11 liquidation is a thing, so don't be so sure.

We will see. It also lets them move the debt away from other sections of the company and prevent collection until the appeal is over. The way that case was handled by the judge and the damages are...questionable.


Well, large judgments like this rarely ever stand up on appeal, but Gawker pursued highly suspect legal strategies (if legal strategies were a person, this one would be a smugger, more reckless, Dr. House).

Then there also was this:


Harder: (Hogan's Attny): “Can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape would not be newsworthy?”

Daulerio (Gawker EIC): “If they were a child.”

Harder: “Under what age?”

Daulerio:“Four.”
Freeeeeeedom
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8148 Posts
June 10 2016 17:57 GMT
#80430
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.

Hi, as I asked xDaunt (without much success to my great surprise), can you back up with facts your claim that Clinton is corrupt? Please provide evidence or just don't say it.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
June 10 2016 17:59 GMT
#80431
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.

I'm not sure how 'Trump stepped in that one'. When a 12 year old tells you to delete starcraft/dota/counter-strike did you really get 'owned'?

People are really grasping at straws here. Yeah, its not as humorless as the whole Drumpf thing but its a sad state of affairs when something like this is considered even passable banter.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 10 2016 18:01 GMT
#80432
On June 11 2016 02:56 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:42 Plansix wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Chapter 11 liquidation is a thing, so don't be so sure.

We will see. It also lets them move the debt away from other sections of the company and prevent collection until the appeal is over. The way that case was handled by the judge and the damages are...questionable.


Well, large judgments like this rarely ever stand up on appeal, but Gawker pursued highly suspect legal strategies (if legal strategies were a person, this one would be a smugger, more reckless, Dr. House).

Then there also was this:

Show nested quote +

Harder: (Hogan's Attny): “Can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape would not be newsworthy?”

Daulerio (Gawker EIC): “If they were a child.”

Harder: “Under what age?”

Daulerio:“Four.”

Worst witness ever. I dislike gawker a lot. But this case troubles me. I don't want billionaires trying to go the using the Thiel plan of trying to bankrupt whatever publication bothers them.

The New Yorker had a good article on why we shouldn't be cheering this attack on gawker, no matter how shitty they are.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-peter-thiels-gawker-battle-could-open-a-war-against-the-press
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 10 2016 18:01 GMT
#80433
Considering a lot of people here are Hillary supporters they don't just swallow the bad. I don't swallow just the bad on her which is why if she wins the election I'll still be alright with it.
Hitchens on Clinton:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE8PG2mpo58

It's interesting to hear that an argument was:
"Well look, do you want Dan Quayle as president?!"
Which is similar to
"Well look, do you want Trump as president?!"
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6325 Posts
June 10 2016 18:01 GMT
#80434
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.

It wasn't a signed tweet, and no, Hillary is not well known for her off-the-cuff spontaneity, especially on the internet. It would take longer than 5 minutes for someone to even get a hold of her and report "New Trump shitpost, ma'am, what course shall we take?" It's something obviously the campaign had in the pipe.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
June 10 2016 18:03 GMT
#80435
On June 11 2016 02:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm really sorry for this lol

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Considering that joke was made by Jimmy Fallon in his 'Thank you card' section with Obama I'm going to go with 'Bad stolen joke'.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 10 2016 18:05 GMT
#80436
On June 11 2016 02:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm really sorry for this lol

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I lol'ed thats a great joke.
The entereainment has been the one truly good thing to come out of this campaign
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 18:07:52
June 10 2016 18:07 GMT
#80437
On June 11 2016 02:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.

Hi, as I asked xDaunt (without much success to my great surprise), can you back up with facts your claim that Clinton is corrupt? Please provide evidence or just don't say it.

JW_DTLA was being sarcastic Thanks for your posts by the way, you and a few other posters (Lord Tolkien, for example) are a breath of fresh air in this thread.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8148 Posts
June 10 2016 18:10 GMT
#80438
On June 11 2016 03:07 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 02:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 11 2016 02:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Btw - Hillary's tweet was done a year ago by a retired congressman so it wasn't even anything new to Trump

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It also seems really obvious that the "delete your account" tweet was planned way in advance.


Why do you think you can make that inference? I know Shillary is Calculating and Corrupt, so we should assume the worst. But I think you should reconsider those assumptions. Just because it is HRC doesn't mean she can't respond with a 3 word response in 5 minutes. Trump stepped right into that one.

Hi, as I asked xDaunt (without much success to my great surprise), can you back up with facts your claim that Clinton is corrupt? Please provide evidence or just don't say it.

JW_DTLA was being sarcastic Thanks for your posts by the way, you and a few other posters (Lord Tolkien, for example) are a breath of fresh air in this thread.

Oh, my bad. Apologies to him.

Thanks that's nice of you I'm afraid I'm just a ranting left wing frenchman getting his fix of controversies here.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 18:14:01
June 10 2016 18:11 GMT
#80439
its just ranting frenchmen and germans in here! and a special canadian <3
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 10 2016 18:15 GMT
#80440
Europeans are better informed on American politics than Americans
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