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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 05 2016 22:03 GMT
#75001
On May 06 2016 06:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump is eating taco bowls and Bernie is assuming a Hindu is Muslim. I hope this election never ends.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en



FWIW that vid is old and the guy asked a question that supported that inference

My bad. For what it's worth, I think his assumption was totally justified. I was more so reflecting on Bernie clearly being super respectful etc and not racist, but managing to appear ignorant. While at the same time, trump is sucking as much Hispanic dick as he can.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 05 2016 22:04 GMT
#75002
trump is testie

not sure about lucifer.

- H
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2016 22:07 GMT
#75003
The Trump taco bowl is the highlight of my twitter feed right now. So much will be made of this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 22:14:16
May 05 2016 22:08 GMT
#75004
On May 06 2016 07:07 Plansix wrote:
The Trump taco bowl is the highlight of my twitter feed right now. So much will be made of this.

It's exactly what xdaunt and I were both saying. As soon as he needs to, doing absolutely everything to salvage the Latino vote. And I bet he'll salvage a ton of it.

Edit: Anyone care to predict how long until we see a picture of Trump in a sombrero?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2016 22:16 GMT
#75005
On May 06 2016 07:08 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 07:07 Plansix wrote:
The Trump taco bowl is the highlight of my twitter feed right now. So much will be made of this.

It's exactly what xdaunt and I were both saying. As soon as he needs to, doing absolutely everything to salvage the Latino vote. And I bet he'll salvage a ton of it.

Are you being sarcastic? You do know that taco bowls are not Hispanic in any way, right? There are so many levels to that tweet. Like that he is from New York and has unlimited access to authentic Latin American food, but decided to go with the a taco bell invention. This will be received with a bemused confusion as to why the white man is trying to cater to them by eating food that they do not make.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 05 2016 22:20 GMT
#75006
This is some good entertainment.
WriterXiao8~~
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 05 2016 22:23 GMT
#75007
On May 06 2016 06:56 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:38 Mohdoo wrote:

On May 06 2016 06:37 hunts wrote:
I wonder if GH is actually sanders? The more apparent it is that sanders has lost, the more desperate and less factual his attacks become, and so too does GH start attacking Hilary more viciously and desperately, with even more conspiracy theories and even fewer facts.


You wanna make this thread the best fucking place on Earth? Imagine, as hard as you can, Bernie typing/saying everything GH says. Then imagine the same thing with oneofthem and Clinton. I need to hear Clinton say "Bernista" some time in my life. Followed by that fucking cackle. God damn.


Which posters can I imagine as Trump or Lucifer?

And please let's not discuss feminism in this thread. We're all guys. The discussion gets extremely stupid when it's discussed with a 100% male group.

Hrm? So you're saying cis-gendered heterosexual males (which is a false assumption, I can assure you) cannot discuss feminism at all, or understand it?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 22:34:24
May 05 2016 22:26 GMT
#75008
His "I love Hispanics" made me remember his "I love the uneducated" comment.

As a Chinese American, I'm waiting to be pandered to with a picture of him eating orange chicken in a Panda Express. Pretty please?

On May 06 2016 07:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:56 andrewlt wrote:
On May 06 2016 06:38 Mohdoo wrote:

On May 06 2016 06:37 hunts wrote:
I wonder if GH is actually sanders? The more apparent it is that sanders has lost, the more desperate and less factual his attacks become, and so too does GH start attacking Hilary more viciously and desperately, with even more conspiracy theories and even fewer facts.


You wanna make this thread the best fucking place on Earth? Imagine, as hard as you can, Bernie typing/saying everything GH says. Then imagine the same thing with oneofthem and Clinton. I need to hear Clinton say "Bernista" some time in my life. Followed by that fucking cackle. God damn.


Which posters can I imagine as Trump or Lucifer?

And please let's not discuss feminism in this thread. We're all guys. The discussion gets extremely stupid when it's discussed with a 100% male group.

Hrm? So you're saying cis-gendered heterosexual males (which is a false assumption, I can assure you) cannot discuss feminism at all, or understand it?


I'm not familiar with what that term means. And you have to qualify that question with "in a videogame forum". So the answer is very highly unlikely.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 05 2016 22:27 GMT
#75009
On May 06 2016 07:26 andrewlt wrote:
His "I love Hispanics" made me remember his "I love the uneducated" comment.

As a Chinese American, I'm waiting to be pandered to with a picture of him eating orange chicken in a Panda Express. Pretty please?

He's trying to win the Asian vote, not lose it utterly.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2016 22:28 GMT
#75010
On May 06 2016 07:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:56 andrewlt wrote:
On May 06 2016 06:38 Mohdoo wrote:

On May 06 2016 06:37 hunts wrote:
I wonder if GH is actually sanders? The more apparent it is that sanders has lost, the more desperate and less factual his attacks become, and so too does GH start attacking Hilary more viciously and desperately, with even more conspiracy theories and even fewer facts.


You wanna make this thread the best fucking place on Earth? Imagine, as hard as you can, Bernie typing/saying everything GH says. Then imagine the same thing with oneofthem and Clinton. I need to hear Clinton say "Bernista" some time in my life. Followed by that fucking cackle. God damn.


Which posters can I imagine as Trump or Lucifer?

And please let's not discuss feminism in this thread. We're all guys. The discussion gets extremely stupid when it's discussed with a 100% male group.

Hrm? So you're saying cis-gendered heterosexual males (which is a false assumption, I can assure you) cannot discuss feminism at all, or understand it?

There isn’t a problem with amateur level discussion on any, as long at people understand they are not experts and lack any personal experience(to be clear, this includes me)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 22:30:02
May 05 2016 22:28 GMT
#75011
On May 06 2016 07:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 07:08 Mohdoo wrote:
On May 06 2016 07:07 Plansix wrote:
The Trump taco bowl is the highlight of my twitter feed right now. So much will be made of this.

It's exactly what xdaunt and I were both saying. As soon as he needs to, doing absolutely everything to salvage the Latino vote. And I bet he'll salvage a ton of it.

Are you being sarcastic? You do know that taco bowls are not Hispanic in any way, right? There are so many levels to that tweet. Like that he is from New York and has unlimited access to authentic Latin American food, but decided to go with the a taco bell invention. This will be received with a bemused confusion as to why the white man is trying to cater to them by eating food that they do not make.


I am half Peruvian and certainly appreciate everything you are saying. That's why I am so blown away by this and why I love it *so* much. This is Trump's typical shotgun approach to winning over a demographic. Just keep tossing tons of things aimed at making them smile at you. It somehow worked with evangelicals. And it is probably worth noting that the average Hispanic isn't any smarter than the average whatever else. Just as Trump has won over a bunch of idiots from other races, shit like this will in fact work with some people. I think he'll still "lose" the Hispanic vote, but I think he will pander as hard as possible. To an offensive extent, I hope/assume.

Edit: Andrewlt captured exactly my feelings, from another race's perspective.

On May 06 2016 07:26 andrewlt wrote:
As a Chinese American, I'm waiting to be pandered to with a picture of him eating orange chicken in a Panda Express. Pretty please?

oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6304 Posts
May 05 2016 22:33 GMT
#75012
On May 06 2016 06:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump is eating taco bowls and Bernie is assuming a Hindu is Muslim. I hope this election never ends.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjVD9JKufA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m28s

Those things would happen anyway, it's just that if it weren't a presidential election, people would recognize they're not noteworthy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 05 2016 22:39 GMT
#75013
On May 06 2016 07:33 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump is eating taco bowls and Bernie is assuming a Hindu is Muslim. I hope this election never ends.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjVD9JKufA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m28s

Those things would happen anyway, it's just that if it weren't a presidential election, people would recognize they're not noteworthy.


Yeah, except it wouldn't be blatant pandering to a certain demographic in that case
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 05 2016 22:53 GMT
#75014
On May 06 2016 07:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 07:33 oBlade wrote:
On May 06 2016 06:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump is eating taco bowls and Bernie is assuming a Hindu is Muslim. I hope this election never ends.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjVD9JKufA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m28s

Those things would happen anyway, it's just that if it weren't a presidential election, people would recognize they're not noteworthy.


Yeah, except it wouldn't be blatant pandering to a certain demographic in that case

Isn't pandering to everyone the whole point of election campaigns?
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2016 22:57 GMT
#75015
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Thursday he cannot at this time support or endorse Donald Trump, the presumptive presidential nominee of his own party.

“I’m just not ready to do that at this point. I’m not there yet,” Ryan said in an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper. “I hope to and want to. What’s required is that we unify the party.”

The speaker said he wants to endorse his party’s nominee, but that more needs to be done to unify the GOP before he can do so. He added that the GOP needs a “standard-bearer that bears our standards” before he can make an endorsement.

Nearly all previous GOP presidential nominees are sitting out the party’s convention in Cleveland — including President George H.W. Bush, President George W. Bush, Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who mounted a fierce but ultimately unsuccessful campaign against Trump earlier this year.

“I think it’s possible but we’re not there right now,” Ryan added of the prospect of uniting his party.

Trump responded to the speaker’s comments in a statement Thursday afternoon.

“I am not ready to support Speaker Ryan’s agenda,” the presumptive nominee said. “Perhaps in the future we can work together and come to an agreement about what is best for the American people. They have been treated so badly for so long that it is about time for politicians to put them first!”

Eager to seize on the dramatic fissure between two of the GOP’s top leaders, the campaign of Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton emailed Ryan’s remarks to reporters immediately after he made them, adding his name to a “growing list of conservatives rebuking Trump.”

In the immediate aftermath of Ryan refusing to endorse Trump on Thursday, lawmakers contacted by HuffPost were unwilling to give their reactions on the record.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 05 2016 22:57 GMT
#75016
It's not the pandering that's noteworthy. It's the pandering with fake Mexican food that's amusing.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6304 Posts
May 05 2016 23:00 GMT
#75017
On May 06 2016 07:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 07:33 oBlade wrote:
On May 06 2016 06:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Trump is eating taco bowls and Bernie is assuming a Hindu is Muslim. I hope this election never ends.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjVD9JKufA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m28s

Those things would happen anyway, it's just that if it weren't a presidential election, people would recognize they're not noteworthy.


Yeah, except it wouldn't be blatant pandering to a certain demographic in that case

Is it unexpected that someone people have called racist for almost a year would say he loves Hispanics?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 23:04:22
May 05 2016 23:02 GMT
#75018
Well...

NEW YORK -- Hillary Clinton’s supporters in recent days have been making a furious round of calls to top Bush family donors to try to convince them that she represents their values better than Donald Trump, multiple sources in both parties told POLITICO.

The moves come as Clinton and the Democratic Party try to take advantage of deep unease among establishment Republicans on Wall Street and elsewhere with Trump’s emergence as the presumptive Republican nominee.

Top targets for the Clinton team include people like Woody Johnson, Jeb Bush’s former finance chair and the owner of the New York Jets. In recent days, Bush’s brother and father, former presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, have said they plan to skip Trump’s nominating convention.

One person close to Clinton said supporters of the former secretary of state drew up a list of Wall Street donors who supported Jeb Bush and other unsuccessful Republican candidates months ago but wanted to wait until Trump locked down the nomination before beginning to make the calls.

“When you think about it there is no downside to making these calls, including for Hillary herself to make then,” this person said. “They may say no but they will talk to her for half an hour about their view of the world and probably say nice things when asked about her publicly. And they might stay away from Trump.”

Clinton spokesman Josh Schwerin did not deny the calls were happening. “There's no official outreach from the campaign but I would not be at all surprised if our supporters are doing it on their own.”

One big Clinton donor on Wall Street said that Bush donors are prime targets and that "we're a big tent." Potential sources of support for Clinton could include people like Jack Oliver, who also served as a top fundraiser for Jeb Bush. Both Johnson and Oliver did not respond to requests for comment.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 05 2016 23:23 GMT
#75019
On May 06 2016 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well...

Show nested quote +
NEW YORK -- Hillary Clinton’s supporters in recent days have been making a furious round of calls to top Bush family donors to try to convince them that she represents their values better than Donald Trump, multiple sources in both parties told POLITICO.

The moves come as Clinton and the Democratic Party try to take advantage of deep unease among establishment Republicans on Wall Street and elsewhere with Trump’s emergence as the presumptive Republican nominee.

Top targets for the Clinton team include people like Woody Johnson, Jeb Bush’s former finance chair and the owner of the New York Jets. In recent days, Bush’s brother and father, former presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, have said they plan to skip Trump’s nominating convention.

One person close to Clinton said supporters of the former secretary of state drew up a list of Wall Street donors who supported Jeb Bush and other unsuccessful Republican candidates months ago but wanted to wait until Trump locked down the nomination before beginning to make the calls.

“When you think about it there is no downside to making these calls, including for Hillary herself to make then,” this person said. “They may say no but they will talk to her for half an hour about their view of the world and probably say nice things when asked about her publicly. And they might stay away from Trump.”

Clinton spokesman Josh Schwerin did not deny the calls were happening. “There's no official outreach from the campaign but I would not be at all surprised if our supporters are doing it on their own.”

One big Clinton donor on Wall Street said that Bush donors are prime targets and that "we're a big tent." Potential sources of support for Clinton could include people like Jack Oliver, who also served as a top fundraiser for Jeb Bush. Both Johnson and Oliver did not respond to requests for comment.


Source

Not a good idea.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 05 2016 23:36 GMT
#75020
woody johnson lol
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