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On April 30 2016 04:20 scott31337 wrote:


edit - Plansix wants a credible source - here you go - http://www.wtsp.com/news/politics/trump-protesters-jam-streets-smash-cop-car-outside-california-rally/159592820 - if that isn't, what's credible to you?

On April 30 2016 04:36 amazingxkcd wrote:


whatever fits his narrative

Trump did not mention the protests in a tweet shortly after the event in which he promised to return to Costa Mesa. "31,000 people tonight with thousands turned away. I will be back!" Trump said. He may have overestimated the size of the crowd at the venue, which has a capacity of about 18,000 people.

On April 30 2016 04:43 Plansix wrote:

The youtube video is entitle Bernie supporters, which is not reflected in the news article in any way. So you talking about "narrative" is pretty funny. Especially since its people protesting Trump then damaging a LA police car. The LA police, who do not have the most shining, corruption free record in the last like two decades. Or the last two years. So yeah, I take it all with a grain of salt.

And I will always point out when someone posts some garbage youtube channel. Because video editing is easy and any clown can get a youtube channel.

On March 12 2016 13:19 Plansix wrote:

The protesters were not violent until the Trump supporters came out side. He ran from a peaceful protest. He got scared.

Edit: The media has accurately portrayed Trump for what he is. People made up their own minds.



This photo was created for history books. Fucking perfect.

On April 30 2016 04:53 oBlade wrote:

You have a suspiciously selective skepticism of the alt media when people are wrecking police cruisers.

On April 30 2016 05:01 Plansix wrote:

One of those was a photo published by numerous news papers. The woman was later interviewed and confirmed to be a Trump supporter. The other was some random youtube channel where he claims the protesters are Bernie supporters. I questioned his creditability.

But I guess the context and nuance was lost on you in or rush to make a quick point about how I am selective with my media. Notice how I never contested the fact that the protesters destroyed the police car. I only pointed out that their rage with the police is rooted in a terrible relationship between the LA police and the public.

On April 30 2016 04:24 Barrin wrote: Trump really is a pro IRL troll/memer, and they practically deify him for it.

On April 30 2016 05:19 andrewlt wrote:
Costa Mesa shouldn't be LA police. That's deep in Orange County, which is a Republican stronghold.

Obama accused Warren and congressional Democrats on Friday of being “dishonest” and spreading “misinformation” about the Trans-Pacific Partnership — a trade pact the administration is negotiating among 12 nations. The overwhelming majority of Democrats in Congress oppose TPP, while Republican leaders support it.

It was an unusually aggressive attack for the president — accusing members of his own party not of having misplaced priorities, but of actively working to deceive the public. Obama is rarely so severe even with his Republican opponents. Obama said that the Democratic criticism that “gets on [his] nerves the most” is the notion that his TPP pact is “secret,” and went on to insist that the terms of TPP will help American workers.

On Saturday, Warren and Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) responded with a letter essentially telling Obama to put up or shut up. If the deal is so great, Warren and Brown wrote, the administration should make the full negotiation texts public before Congress votes on a “fast track” bill that would strip the legislative branch of its authority to amend it.

Warren and Brown appeared particularly miffed at being accused of lying.

“We respectfully suggest that characterizing the assessments of labor unions, journalists, Members of Congress, and others who disagree with your approach to transparency on trade issues as ‘dishonest’ is both untrue and unlikely to serve the best interests of the American people,” the letter reads.

The White House was not immediately available to comment.

Some of Obama’s claims about TPP on Friday took some creative license with the truth. He said that he wanted a trade deal that would allow American automakers to sell more cars overseas, without mentioning that Ford and autoworker unions do not support the pact. He also said that he had not included any language barring currency manipulation — a key tactic by which Japan and China undercut American production — because it might hamper the Federal Reserve’s monetary policy operations. That scenario would only be possible if the pact defined “currency manipulation” in a particularly bizarre manner.

The Warren-Brown letter also includes a subtly vicious Democrat-on-Democrat dig, suggesting that Obama’s trade transparency record is worse than that of former President George W. Bush. They note that Bush published the full negotiation texts of a major free trade deal with Latin America several months before Congress had to vote on giving the deal fast track benefits. The Obama administration has resisted calls to follow suit with TPP.

“What was true then remains true now,” the letter reads. “The American people should be allowed to weigh in on the facts of the TPP before Members of Congress are asked to voluntarily reduce our ability to amend, shape, or block any trade deal.”

WASHINGTON — If you ask Republicans what’s the most significant piece of legislation they’ve passed this year, you’re unlikely to get a quick, definitive response.

“I’d have to give it some thought,” Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) said Friday.

“I’d have to go back and look,” Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) said earlier this week.

“We’re changing America,” Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said with a laugh, in response to a question about Congress filling its days by renaming post offices and designating the bison as the national mammal.

Congress is so bad at passing laws, they couldn’t even get that bison bill right. The Senate passed the bill in December, but because of a factual error — the Senate called Nov. 1, 2014, the second annual National Bison Day when it was the third — the House passed a brand-new bill on Tuesday, meaning this important legislation still requires further action before it goes to the president’s desk.

On Thursday, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) listed a number of legislative accomplishments — a highway bill, an education bill, a customs laws rewrite — but none of those accomplishments were actually accomplished this year.

“Honestly, the big basics, the big issues, that’s what this divided government will not produce,” Ryan said, seeming to blame the inaction on President Barack Obama.

But a Democrat in the White House doesn’t explain Congress’ internal dysfunction.

Lawmakers left town Friday not having acted on legislation to help Puerto Rico, not having done a budget and not completed action on a single appropriations bill.

To date, 31 pieces of legislation have been written into law this year, and hardly any of them would qualify as major. And with the House scheduled to be in session for just 66 more days this year and the Senate — whose schedule is a bit more informal — slated for a similar number, 2016 could be a historically unproductive year for Congress.

On Friday, Ryan called House Republicans together, kicked out the staff and had what aides and members called a “family discussion” on the budget and appropriations.

As Rep. Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) told The Huffington Post, Ryan was actively trying to bring the conference together to do a budget.

On April 30 2016 05:29 Plansix wrote:

I though Orange County was like a burrow of LA, my mistake. I assumed the LA police would have jurisdiction, but that state is huge.

On April 30 2016 06:53 Mohdoo wrote:
Jeb somewhat endorses Cruz/Carly, ensuring their demise. Trump, meanwhile, just hit 1001 delegates. The question is, just how badly will lyin ted and HP's worst CEO of all time lose?

“We’re changing America,” Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said with a laugh, in response to a question about Congress filling its days by renaming post offices and designating the bison as the national mammal.