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On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there.
I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. While I don't doubt your experience in Brazil I would argue that it's not that the difference is less pronounced, the minimum standard for all onions in stores is above the "not rotten" standard. Even in the cheapest stores in the US the produce that makes it there has already been screened for quality and appearance so that anything that isn't pretty enough is already discarded. It's a wasteful society.
Hell, it's actually quite difficult to get a rotten onion unless you completely forget about it. They last for months after you buy them.
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On February 13 2016 07:41 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:37 IgnE wrote:
But identical fda yellow styrofoam chicken breasts are the same at every store. Also I eat bananas daily. They're pretty great. You should look into them.
i eat bananas all the time, i just buy them at trader joes, bot whole foods.
i havent been to a walmart in forever but when i go to a target i dont see yellow styrofoam fda chickens. i see target branded chickens in other styrofoam containers, usually w little selection. most people going to walmart or target are not buying the higher quality chicken if its even there. you seem to be arguing that walmart isnt "walmart" at this point, because it supposedly carries the highest quality chickens at the higher prices.
you have to view the total context here. shoppers at walmart are buying a ton of shitty chicken. whether thats because walmart doesnt sell higher quality chicken or whether its because they dont want to pay for walmart plus chicken, i dont know. my experience however is that walmart/target chicken is not identical to even regular grocery, yellow styrofoam chicken, let alone air chilled, free range chicken.
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On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there.
Yeah no, your not going to find rotten tomatoes at the supermarket in Europe (and I assume the US)
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a lot of produce i buy at lesser stores goes bad faster than the nicer looking, higher priced stuff at some stores. its not an option to go shopping every day for groceries. this is especially true of greens.
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On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US.
This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point.
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Bahahahaha.
Despite his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is the favorite among Latino Republicans, according to new polling results revealed to The Post.
Thirty eight percent favor Trump, followed by Cuban American Ted Cruz (15 percent), Jeb Bush (14 percent) and Cuban American Marco Rubio (8 percent), according to the national poll conducted by the Beck Research for the American Federation for Children.
“If you’re trying to stop Trump – this poll should trouble you,” said pollster Deborah Beck.
From Day 1 of his presidential campaign, Trump got into hot water with Hispanic organizations for asserting many Mexican immigrants are rapists, criminals and drug dealers. His campaign has since gained steam for his tough talk on building a border wall and making Mexico pay for it and implementing a temporary ban on all Muslims from entering the United States.
“This poll finds that he’s building a committed base of voters. Trump is proving to be Teflon, and despite his statements about Hispanic voters, 38 percent of Hispanic Republicans back him,” said Beck, president of Beck Research LLC.
Source.
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Can we get a total number of Hispanic republicans before I am impressed that he was able to obtain their vote?
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On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point.
It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry.
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On February 13 2016 07:57 xDaunt wrote:Bahahahaha. Show nested quote +Despite his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is the favorite among Latino Republicans, according to new polling results revealed to The Post.
Thirty eight percent favor Trump, followed by Cuban American Ted Cruz (15 percent), Jeb Bush (14 percent) and Cuban American Marco Rubio (8 percent), according to the national poll conducted by the Beck Research for the American Federation for Children.
“If you’re trying to stop Trump – this poll should trouble you,” said pollster Deborah Beck.
From Day 1 of his presidential campaign, Trump got into hot water with Hispanic organizations for asserting many Mexican immigrants are rapists, criminals and drug dealers. His campaign has since gained steam for his tough talk on building a border wall and making Mexico pay for it and implementing a temporary ban on all Muslims from entering the United States.
“This poll finds that he’s building a committed base of voters. Trump is proving to be Teflon, and despite his statements about Hispanic voters, 38 percent of Hispanic Republicans back him,” said Beck, president of Beck Research LLC. Source.
Dear Lord the comment section
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On February 13 2016 08:00 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point. It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry.
Your Walmart is drastically different than the one in my area, clearly. I'll try to remember to take pictures next time I'm there.
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Considering the FDA is tasked with regulating two monster industries, are understaffed, and are heavily influenced by lobbyists with lobbyists in their leadership, I take their input with a grain of salt.
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On February 13 2016 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:00 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point. It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry. Your Walmart is drastically different than the one in my area, clearly. I'll try to remember to take pictures next time I'm there.
What can I say, I live in the good part of town. I'm surprised we even have a Walmart.
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On February 13 2016 08:06 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 08:00 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:22 IgnE wrote:
I can tell the difference between the cheapest chicken at walmart and the cheapest chicken from whole foods cooked without any other ingredients, in the same way.
Your best argument would be that I can't tell the difference when that chicken is cubed and thrown into identical curries. But I think I'd still probably be better than chance. I would be happy to volunteer for any double blind study that wanted to test the difference. You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability. What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point. It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry. Your Walmart is drastically different than the one in my area, clearly. I'll try to remember to take pictures next time I'm there. What can I say, I live in the good part of town. I'm surprised we even have a Walmart.
That's what I was thinking, your Walmart experience screams atypical. I'm curious how long it's been there and if there are still alternatives in close proximity?
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The FDA barely regulates supermarkets or the food they put out. There are no federal laws about expiration dates with the exception of baby formula. States handle a lot of that stuff and your milage may very. And all Walmarts are not created equal, having worked that shitty job at a college kid. The one I worked in was passable. But the one in the area I live now can only be described as everlasting tire fire.
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On February 13 2016 08:07 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:06 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 08:00 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:On February 13 2016 07:26 KwarK wrote:
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You think you can tell the difference between Walmart and Whole Foods. Do the double blind study and repeat it a bunch of times and get back to us. Also use comparable chickens, whole refrigerated chicken breasts for both or whatever, not just cheapest from each. They cater to different markets, cheapest is no guarantee of comparability.
What about salt? Can you taste the difference between brand name salt from Whole Foods and regular cooking salt from Walmart? You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point. It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry. Your Walmart is drastically different than the one in my area, clearly. I'll try to remember to take pictures next time I'm there. What can I say, I live in the good part of town. I'm surprised we even have a Walmart. That's what I was thinking, your Walmart experience screams atypical. I'm curious how long it's been there and if there are still alternatives in close proximity?
Been open about 6 months. It's across the road from a Sprouts, Smiths and Albertsons a mile or so away.
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On February 13 2016 07:59 Plansix wrote:
Can we get a total number of Hispanic republicans before I am impressed that he was able to obtain their vote?
General consensus from a quick Google search seems to say that 20-40% of Hispanics lean Republican.
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To get off the food for the poor topic, do we think there is a confusion within the Hispanic citizen community that when Trump talks about birthright citizenship being changed he means them? Because I can understand how Hispanic Americans born here would have antipathy towards immigrants due to them feeling like they are American (because they are American) but Trump disagrees with that basic premise. To him they're all part of the same problem.
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On February 13 2016 08:11 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 08:06 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 08:00 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 13 2016 07:50 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:44 Acrofales wrote:On February 13 2016 07:34 KwarK wrote:On February 13 2016 07:32 IgnE wrote:
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Not sure they separated out non-white Hispanics but I'm just pulling that from the comments.
You seem to think that I've been arguing that it's impossible to find nutritious food at walmart. That was the argument you jumped into. If you don't want to be involved don't be involved. What you now appear to be arguing is that you can tell the difference between two different products. Well done. Gold star. My argument was always that an onion is pretty much an onion, a bunch of bananas is pretty much the same anywhere, that the poor are not priced out of nutritious produce. That shopping at Walmart does not automatically prevent you from having access to good food. I can guarantee you that not all onions (or any fresh produce) are made equal. If I go to the local hortifruti (a supermarket focused on fresh vegetables), most of the onions in the rack are fresh, and don't have mold hiding underneath the outer shell. If I go to the Carrefour (or *shudder* Dia), the onions are more often than not, rotten on the inside. Similarly, I can get fairly decent tomatoes at the hortifruti, but the ones in the cornerstore are mostly green or rotten. I thus have to pay particular attention and find nice fresh, ripe tomatoes and onions, and in the case of onions, can even then go wrong. Whereas at the hortifruti, I can just pick almost at random. I do pay a bit more, but am fairly sure my groceries are of a decent quality. Now because yall live in 1st world countries, I´m sure the differences are less pronounced, but I don´t doubt that they are still there. I've never found a rotten onion on display at any store in the UK or in the US. This makes me extremely skeptical you have actually shopped at Walmart (or my local Walmart is extraordinarily shitty). I'm tempted to just go down and take pictures of rotten stuff on the shelf just to make the point. It's my local store. Furthermore I have worked in a discount grocery store (Lidl for Europeans). I was trained to throw away perfectly good produce and the produce area was purged hourly to get rid of anything that had the appearance of not being completely fresh. My Walmart doesn't meet Lidl standards but there is nothing there I wouldn't throw into a curry. Your Walmart is drastically different than the one in my area, clearly. I'll try to remember to take pictures next time I'm there. What can I say, I live in the good part of town. I'm surprised we even have a Walmart. That's what I was thinking, your Walmart experience screams atypical. I'm curious how long it's been there and if there are still alternatives in close proximity? Been open about 6 months. It's across the road from a Sprouts, Smiths and Albertsons a mile or so away.
Hahahahahaha.
Enjoy it while it lasts. If it is a nice part of town you'll get to keep one of the upscale choices (because people will pay more even for the exact same stuff to avoid being seen at or experiencing a Walmart) but once the competition has been beaten into submission (and it will be) you can expect a sharp drop in quality at Walmart.
On the bright side you'll probably one of few people both stubborn and discerning enough to find the quality stuff.
They will run a store at a loss for years if that's what it takes.
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On February 13 2016 07:59 Plansix wrote:
Can we get a total number of Hispanic republicans before I am impressed that he was able to obtain their vote?
Not sure how much this contributes/how wide spread this is, but I know several legal hispanics who are very anti-illegal immigrant/anti-Mexican because of how often they are confused for Mexicans/illegals themselves.
I also have to imagine that there is a decent amount of legal Hispanics who are frustrated that they went through the immigration process and there are so many others just walking on over illegally.
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On February 13 2016 08:23 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:59 Plansix wrote:
Can we get a total number of Hispanic republicans before I am impressed that he was able to obtain their vote? Not sure how much this contributes/how wide spread this is, but I know several legal hispanics who are very anti-illegal immigrant/anti-Mexican because of how often they are confused for Mexicans/illegals themselves. I also have to imagine that there is a decent amount of legal Hispanics who are frustrated that they went through the immigration process and there are so many others just walking on over illegally.
A lot of that has to do with Republicans painting the illegal path as something to envy, it's going to be expensive as hell. People who came over legally will have far more economic opportunities than those who didn't and will still have their "well we have it better than them" which has controlled American politics for so long.
Also it's not clear whether they included white Hispanics. Considering the interchangeable use of Latino and Hispanic, I doubt it.
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