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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 04:21:13
December 23 2015 04:19 GMT
#53821
It refers to the penis. He is talking about her getting fucked. This isnt complicated, that is some unprofessional shit. I've seen attorneys admonished by a judge for far less.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 23 2015 04:20 GMT
#53822
On December 23 2015 13:05 Nyxisto wrote:
you don't see the problem with the potential president talking about women like he's a teenager? This isn't the first time either. His "don't take her serious, she's on her period" comes to mind.

I would say, when it comes to picking a political leader, tittering like children every time someone uses a naughty word is far down the list of relevant things.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 23 2015 05:14 GMT
#53823
Yeah this is grasping at straws for a headline. It's at worst inappropriate. Wow ok how will poor Hillary recover.
rip passion
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24143 Posts
December 23 2015 05:44 GMT
#53824
On December 23 2015 14:14 Deathstar wrote:
Yeah this is grasping at straws for a headline. It's at worst inappropriate. Wow ok how will poor Hillary recover.


Hillary is busy making her own problems with her " just like your abuela" article.

I thought it was hilarious, but only because the leading nominee for the republican party said "schlonged", Trump is the reality TV version of Ronald Reagan...



"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 23 2015 06:33 GMT
#53825
I am pretty sure some of our conservative/libertarian friends are reading the national review - just for giggles and because uni is on break I started a couple of days ago.

and oh boy do they not like trump, I would even go so far as to say that they outright hate him. even on a very hefty attack piece against hillary trump gets called out.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
December 23 2015 06:49 GMT
#53826
Almost every mainstream conservative/Republican publication really hates Trump. It's kind of amusing.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 23 2015 07:20 GMT
#53827
On December 23 2015 13:05 Nyxisto wrote:
you don't see the problem with the potential president talking about women like he's a teenager? This isn't the first time either. His "don't take her serious, she's on her period" comes to mind.

She's a big girl. She recently accused him of bolstering ISIS. She'd better be able to take some juvenile comments in return. I mean how many rape victims did she have to defend her husband against for crying out loud?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 07:38:42
December 23 2015 07:37 GMT
#53828
Wow, the justification for publicly insulting someone with the vocabulary of a high school douchebag on a national stage while running for president (or the nomination) is "better be able to take juvenile comments."

The US is so fucked.. doesnt matter who wins 2016, the fact that people like this are relevant is so fucking sad. 400 years of democracy, now lets teach it to the world. FUCK YEAH ! Cant imagine what couldve gone wrong.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
December 23 2015 08:21 GMT
#53829
Democracy has been dirty since the start, at least in the US. It's much tamer now than it was a couple centuries ago.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
December 23 2015 08:24 GMT
#53830
On December 23 2015 17:21 Introvert wrote:
Democracy has been dirty since the start, at least in the US. It's much tamer now than it was a couple centuries ago.


But dramatically worse than it was only 15 years ago.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 23 2015 08:33 GMT
#53831
On December 23 2015 17:21 Introvert wrote:
Democracy has been dirty since the start, at least in the US. It's much tamer now than it was a couple centuries ago.


but that's just democracy - everywhere. it isn't easy or made for complacent and docile masses. it's a constant struggle and people seek to fight for what they believe is right and/or in their interests - ideally within the boundaries of reasonable frame of laws.

things are already decided and taken care of in other forms of government.

interestingly, conservatives in America use the term republic rather than democracy. around here a republic is a form of state, not a form of government.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
December 23 2015 08:35 GMT
#53832
On December 23 2015 17:33 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 17:21 Introvert wrote:
Democracy has been dirty since the start, at least in the US. It's much tamer now than it was a couple centuries ago.


but that's just democracy - everywhere. it isn't easy or made for complacent and docile masses. it's a constant struggle and people seek to fight for what they believe is right and/or in their interests - ideally within the boundaries of reasonable frame of laws.

things are already decided and taken care of in other forms of government.

interestingly, conservatives in America use the term republic rather than democracy. around here a republic is a form of state, not a form of government.


I was adopting the wording of the post above mine.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 23 2015 08:36 GMT
#53833
On December 23 2015 17:35 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 17:33 Doublemint wrote:
On December 23 2015 17:21 Introvert wrote:
Democracy has been dirty since the start, at least in the US. It's much tamer now than it was a couple centuries ago.


but that's just democracy - everywhere. it isn't easy or made for complacent and docile masses. it's a constant struggle and people seek to fight for what they believe is right and/or in their interests - ideally within the boundaries of reasonable frame of laws.

things are already decided and taken care of in other forms of government.

interestingly, conservatives in America use the term republic rather than democracy. around here a republic is a form of state, not a form of government.


I was adopting the wording of the post above mine.


just wanted to post something very general about it, nothing for or against your statement
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 23 2015 09:12 GMT
#53834
On December 23 2015 16:37 Rebs wrote:
Wow, the justification for publicly insulting someone with the vocabulary of a high school douchebag on a national stage while running for president (or the nomination) is "better be able to take juvenile comments."

The US is so fucked.. doesnt matter who wins 2016, the fact that people like this are relevant is so fucking sad. 400 years of democracy, now lets teach it to the world. FUCK YEAH ! Cant imagine what couldve gone wrong.

people don't like him because he's rude and behaving like a douchebag.

The comments that people like are basicly a big, nostalgic appeal à la "oh if we could only turn America back like 20-50 years. Everything was easier back in the good old days. You wouldn't get shit for saying that to a woman or some black / hispanic guy. People had simple jobs but they had jobs. Stuff was way easier for us [white!] folks back then!"

The outsourced-jobs argument is nothing else but trying to paint some romantic picture of that as well. Or does anyone really think that if you brought back jobs from China people would line up to get those jobs in the US? For a wage that's needed so that the company doesn't go bankrupt while everyone else is still using China for that?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 10:33:51
December 23 2015 10:30 GMT
#53835
On December 23 2015 16:37 Rebs wrote:
Wow, the justification for publicly insulting someone with the vocabulary of a high school douchebag on a national stage while running for president (or the nomination) is "better be able to take juvenile comments."

Yep, exactly. Next up: "Hey, blaming trump for saying "fuck you Hillary, you bitch" is just grasping at straws for a headline. She should get thicker skin".
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11927 Posts
December 23 2015 10:42 GMT
#53836
Yeah, but "Trump is an asshole" is slowly getting less and less newsworthy. It is kind of similarly surprising as it being cold in winter.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
December 23 2015 11:12 GMT
#53837
Well... Today we got ~10 °C in Switzerland.

So, it isn't cold and its winter
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24143 Posts
December 23 2015 11:17 GMT
#53838
So Joe on Morning Joe, is already floating the idea that if Hillary does more of the "War on Women" stuff Trump will go hard at Bill's history.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 23 2015 11:31 GMT
#53839
On December 23 2015 20:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
So Joe on Morning Joe, is already floating the idea that if Hillary does more of the "War on Women" stuff Trump will go hard at Bill's history.


makes perfect sense. though hillary will win this sidematch with ease imho. clinton was/is a liked president - despite his affair.

trump polling atrociously with women - to effectively trying to change that would be like tilting at windmills.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24143 Posts
December 23 2015 11:38 GMT
#53840
On December 23 2015 20:31 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 20:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
So Joe on Morning Joe, is already floating the idea that if Hillary does more of the "War on Women" stuff Trump will go hard at Bill's history.


makes perfect sense. though hillary will win this sidematch with ease imho. clinton was/is a liked president - despite his affair.

trump polling atrociously with women - to effectively trying to change that would be like tilting at windmills.


Oh it's not for the women vote, it's to appeal to the anti-PC crowd who thinks it's fair game and everyone else is too chicken to talk about it.

Immediately places him as the person who will go further than anyone else to fight Hillary, everyone else will be too "PC"
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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