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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2015 23:15 GMT
#51841
Whoops, live TV showing a dead dude on the street.

http://abc7.com/live/
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:18:17
December 02 2015 23:17 GMT
#51842
Looks like a hit, reporter in the helicopter says long rifle on scene, black SUV covered in bullet holes.

edit: lol.. better zoom at the body.
On track to MA1950A.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 02 2015 23:19 GMT
#51843
Gotta have that live up-to-the-second, 1080pHD video coverage of all the action. It's like an action movie.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 23:21 GMT
#51844
On December 03 2015 08:19 vult wrote:
Gotta have that live up-to-the-second, 1080pHD video coverage of all the action. It's like an action movie.


Actually yeah, i think it's not bad to have live updates, no matter the quality really.

But zooming onto a body, with a man sized puddle of blood next to it, well.. That's a bit much.
On track to MA1950A.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21704 Posts
December 02 2015 23:24 GMT
#51845
On December 03 2015 08:11 vult wrote:
NRA and 2nd Amendment supporters need to take a serious look at the past 3 years and carefully consider how screwed up United States culture and mindset towards guns is. I am sick and tired of turning on the tv or going into work to see another news story saying "___ dead in ____ mass shooting", its just so disgusting and awful and US legislature and law enforcement are beyond helping. This is going to keep happening for the next 10 years if policies or a severe movement is made to dissolve the 2nd amendment as it is currently written and make gun laws harsher. I love the excuse of the idea that "people can get a gun anyways so making it illegal wont help" because there is literally no precedent to prove that. We have had more "mass shootings" this year than we have had days. That is fucking embarrassing, vile, and downright scary. I fear walking around public areas and metropolitan cities knowing some fucking nutcase can just come and shoot me in the back of the head and its GG.

Domestic Terrorism is a thing, copycat crimes are a thing, and our news continues to highlight these events to the world, detailing the acts done by the perpetrator(s), and glorifying the antihero. I fucking hate the US sometimes.

Not going to happen. To much influence and money going around and the NRA very much knows their policy is not preventing shootings, they just don't give a damn because of said money and influence.

You know those militia's who flocked to that land dispute thing and later 'defended' David Kim? You touch the 2nd Amendment and try to take their guns and your going to have blood flowing through the streets.
Would be fun tho to see Texas declare its independence.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2015 23:25 GMT
#51846
Looks like the SWAT team just opened up on the vehicle again.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 23:30 GMT
#51847
On December 03 2015 08:25 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like the SWAT team just opened up on the vehicle again.


Huh? Where'd you see that?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2015 23:31 GMT
#51848
On December 03 2015 08:30 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 08:25 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like the SWAT team just opened up on the vehicle again.


Huh? Where'd you see that?

On the video feed that I posted. It looked like they opened fire during the press conference. The video quality isn't that good, but I'm pretty sure that I saw dust kick up from impacts.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 23:32 GMT
#51849
On December 03 2015 08:31 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 08:30 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 08:25 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like the SWAT team just opened up on the vehicle again.


Huh? Where'd you see that?

On the video feed that I posted. It looked like they opened fire during the press conference. The video quality isn't that good, but I'm pretty sure that I saw dust kick up from impacts.


I didn't see anything, and nobody is reporting anything either. Not that important anyway, really.
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Eskendereya
Profile Joined August 2015
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:37:52
December 02 2015 23:33 GMT
#51850
Ahhhh, love Ted Cruz dropping some truth bombs that a vast majority of ex-felons and criminals vote Democrat! :D

And that Democrats know this which is why they push to give criminals and ex-felons the right to vote!

Makes perfect sense too when you think about how Democrats court illegal aliens knowing that if they were ever given amnesty they'd be voting Democrat.

Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 02 2015 23:34 GMT
#51851
criminals and ex-felons can't vote? huh didn't know that. What's the justification?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 02 2015 23:35 GMT
#51852
One guy dead.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:39:34
December 02 2015 23:37 GMT
#51853
On December 03 2015 08:34 Nyxisto wrote:
criminals and ex-felons can't vote? huh didn't know that. What's the justification?


it varies state to state about whether coinvicted felons have the right to vote. found this seems to be a decent summary of it

In 38 states and the District of Columbia, most ex-felons automatically gain the right to vote upon the completion of their sentence.
In some states, ex-felons must wait for a certain period of time after the completion of their sentence before rights can be restored.
In some states, an ex-felon must apply to have voting rights restored.


apparently 2 states let you vote from prison.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

aclu has a nice graphic of it

https://www.aclu.org/map/state-criminal-re-enfranchisement-laws-map
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8986 Posts
December 02 2015 23:37 GMT
#51854
I think they believe that since they can't abide by society's rules and commit, crimes, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:44:27
December 02 2015 23:40 GMT
#51855
They actually found a pipebomb somewhere? Damn, you go pee once and miss all the things.

edit: ah, one suspect still in the car (assumed dead), weapon strapped to him, pipebomb apparently on him as well. That's why they're using the bad ass forklift.
On track to MA1950A.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 02 2015 23:42 GMT
#51856
has trump come out and said if everyone was armed, this wouldn't have happened yet?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 23:45 GMT
#51857
Allegedly, another standoff with two more suspects (according to CNN, don't have the stream open).
On track to MA1950A.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 02 2015 23:46 GMT
#51858
On December 03 2015 08:42 Doraemon wrote:
has trump come out and said if everyone was armed, this wouldn't have happened yet?

No. But Esky is back from another ban, so if he does, we'll be quick to hear about how true that is.
Eskendereya
Profile Joined August 2015
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:47:29
December 02 2015 23:47 GMT
#51859
On December 03 2015 08:42 Doraemon wrote:
has trump come out and said if everyone was armed, this wouldn't have happened yet?


I'm sure if you were under attack by terrorist gunmen you'd want a gun for self protection. But I find that liberals and Democrats are afraid to own guns because they are afraid they may shoot themselves, at least it seems.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 23:48:23
December 02 2015 23:47 GMT
#51860
I think the idea of not letting ex criminals vote is a little weird because the prison sentence in itself is already the punishment that is supposed to pay for the crime. In German law the criminal actually has a 'right to re-socialisation' once the sentence is served. To exclude someone permanently from having basic rights and putting him into prison seems a little unfair.
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