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On October 30 2015 01:19 On_Slaught wrote:
Knowing the background of Cruz, there is a high likelihood he is way too smart to believe this garbage his spews. I'm convinced he doesn't believe a word he says (you can tell he is in "debater" mode while on stage), but is power hungry. He is willing to say or do anything to get power, and he is convinced that standing out from the crowd like this is the best way to position himself. This is evident in his pandering to Trump as a means of getting the VP nod if Trump is the candidate or stealing his votes if Trump drops out.
I stated a while ago that Cruz only goal is re-election (that was before he ran for president). He will say anything to pander to his base and is willing to do any amount of damage to the country so long as it gets him re-elected. It fits perfectly with his initiative to shut down the government while having no plan how to resolve the situation.
And no, such a person should not hold the highest political office.
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On October 30 2015 01:06 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 01:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 30 2015 01:00 xDaunt wrote:On October 30 2015 00:56 notesfromunderground wrote:Fiorina and Trump are the only ones that when they talk, you know it is them talking. They can form English sentences independently. On October 30 2015 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 30 2015 00:52 notesfromunderground wrote:
That's a stupid hatchet job sort of claim. When she explained that "you don't know what being a CEO is like" that was pretty much the highlight of the debate. She understands how fucked up the system is. All I was thinking when she said that is "If you're going to cry about being a CEO of a business that you screwed up, just imagine trying to be the CEO of a country as fucked up and divided as this one." I don't think the "CEO of America" analogy makes any more sense than the "Household budget of America" analogy. I suspect that Fiorina was no better or worse CEO than any other idiot who has that job Cruz is probably the smartest of the bunch. Studies have shown that he speaks at the highest level of the candidates. I also think you're shortchanging Carson. From what I've seen of him, he's remarkably thoughtful. Agreed. This is the third debate and he's still stoned. He's thinking a lot, even if what he's saying is completely unintelligible. Maybe he campaigned in Colorado recently? Don't confuse Carson's refusal to speak in 5-second political soundbites with stupidity.
I don't think I am; the reasons why I think he's stupid (or, at best, corrupt), include his positions on evolution, climate change, vaccines, marijuana, homosexuality, taxes, "cancer-curing" supplements, etc.
The fact that he appears high all the time and can't speak properly is peripherally important too as an orator, but I wouldn't mind it nearly as much if he actually had good points.
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So you actually believe he genuinely thinks neither climate change nor evolution are real?
I don't think that's possible...
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Thursday morning tore into the Republican National Committee's attempt to manage the Republican presidential debates for the 2016 cycle, arguing that the debate formats have been hurting the party.
"I think the Republican Party is becoming the loser here. We've got talented candidates. The process is not bringing out the best in the party. The RNC is trying to correct the last cycle's problem of too many debates. They've overdone it. They're micromanaging the process," Graham said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "I don't think the RNC could run a one-card funeral. This is getting pretty bad."
Graham suggested that the RNC mix up the frontrunners with the candidates lower in the polls for two debates with the same number of candidates.
"This micromanaging, trying to knock people out based on national polls is hurting New Hampshire, Iowa, and South Carolina," Graham said.
Following the debates, numerous candidates complained about the CNBC moderators and RNC management of the debates. Ben Carson's campaign manager plans on calling other campaigns and assemble a group of candidates to confront the RNC over the debate formats.
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On October 30 2015 01:23 oneofthem wrote:
plenty of retards in the HLS
That's cuz law school is easy AF to get into. All you need to do is take a test, GPA is largely forgivable. So much easier than other grad schools.
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On October 30 2015 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote:That's cuz law school is easy AF to get into. All you need to do is take a test, GPA is largely forgivable. So much easier than other grad schools.
My firm deals with Harvard Legal aid all the time and the attorneys they are pumping out leave a lot of be desired. Hell, their staff running it leaves a lot to be desired.
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I think the topic of Ted Cruz's (and Carson's, for that matter) "intelligence" is an interesting opportunity for folks to confront the very real fact that many of the professions we are taught to associate with intelligence are, in fact, full of very skilled idiots. One of my law professors was a Supreme Court clerk much like Cruz was, and though he's definitely a "smart" man in many ways, he's also belligerently stupid when it comes to some very basic concepts (he once told me that he did not know how critical or interpretative theory was relevant to the study of law.....yeah....). In any case, it's clear that how we conceive of intelligence in the general sense needs a fair bit of work; people need to become more comfortable with the notion that some very smart people can also be very dumb.
On October 30 2015 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote:That's cuz law school is easy AF to get into. All you need to do is take a test, GPA is largely forgivable. So much easier than other grad schools.
Actually, the sad state of affairs at many top tier law schools can be directly traced to those school's lessening reliance on LSAT scores. You'd best best believe that many of the "retards in the HLS" are there not because of a test score or GPA figure. Speaking more generally, the contemporary ease of getting into law schools has more to do with application and employment rates than anything else.
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On October 30 2015 01:33 DickMcFanny wrote:
So you actually believe he genuinely thinks neither climate change nor evolution are real?
I don't think that's possible...
Well that's why I said he might just be lying/ corrupt, but it's not like Republican candidates are known for their science advocacy or their trust in scientists. lol.
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I actually liked the female moderator and her questions. I'm only 75 minutes in though.
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As an attorney, I'll be the first to say that the intelligence of law students (even those from Harvard) is wildly overrated. But let's not pretend that Cruz was your average Harvard Law student, and implying that he was is outright dishonest. He was legitimately the cream of the crop.
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On October 30 2015 01:43 farvacola wrote:I think the topic of Ted Cruz's (and Carson's, for that matter) "intelligence" is an interesting opportunity for folks to confront the very real fact that many of the professions we are taught to associate with intelligence are, in fact, full of very skilled idiots. One of my law professors was a Supreme Court clerk much like Cruz was, and though he's definitely a "smart" man in many ways, he's also belligerently stupid when it comes to some very basic concepts (he once told me that he did not know how critical or interpretative theory was relevant to the study of law.....yeah....). In any case, it's clear that how we conceive of intelligence in the general sense needs a fair bit of work; people need to become more comfortable with the notion that some very smart people can also be very dumb. Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 30 2015 01:23 oneofthem wrote:
plenty of retards in the HLS That's cuz law school is easy AF to get into. All you need to do is take a test, GPA is largely forgivable. So much easier than other grad schools. Actually, the sad state of affairs at many top tier law schools can be directly traced to those school's lessening reliance on LSAT scores. You'd best best believe that many of the "retards in the HLS" are there not because of a test score or GPA figure. Speaking more generally, the contemporary ease of getting into law schools has more to do with application and employment rates than anything else.
Really? I had always heard that LSAT was the most important thing for law school.
On October 30 2015 01:49 xDaunt wrote:
As an attorney, I'll be the first to say that the intelligence of law students (even those from Harvard) is wildly overrated. But let's not pretend that Cruz was your average Harvard Law student, and implying that he was is outright dishonest. He was legitimately the cream of the crop.
Don't forget that Piyush Jindal went to Brown and coulda gone to Yale for med but decided to be a Rhodes scholar instead (apparently none of the other scholars liked him though).
On the other hand, Obama was editor of the Law Review.
Maybe the point is that educational pedigree doesn't mean diddly squat in politics.
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On October 30 2015 00:09 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 00:02 frazzle wrote:On October 29 2015 23:11 Plansix wrote:On October 29 2015 23:06 DickMcFanny wrote:
I'm kind of with the US there. There are far more important things to learn in school than a second language if your first language is English. Expect that in the US, you can make BANK being able to speak other languages. It is such as asset to getting employed and paid well, cultural enrichment aside. Maybe if you work at a Multi-National. Maybe. Probably not though. We English speakers have it pretty easy since the whole world pretty much conducts business in English. I work in the legal field, which is conducted entirely in English, and speaking Spanish is always a huge plus. Same with any EU language. The simple fact speaking more languages is valuable and allows you to get jobs that you wouldn’t normally be able to apply for. Literally zero flaws to speaking and reading more languages.
Not saying there's a downside to an extra language. Sure, there are cases in the States where having the right second language can get you a good job. But I would never go so far as to say that having a second language is viewed as an valuable job skill by most employers in the states, or that having an extra-language is an auto cha-ching "I'm making bank baby" kind of thing here. I know lots of people with a variety of second languages here who have desperately tried to put it to use to no avail.
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LSAT scores are still, in the general sense, the most important factor in terms of law school admission. That said, many of the "top tier" schools rely on official (legacy) and unofficial (my dad knows a guy) "networking" factors as highly important during the admission process. This is why you'll run into a fair number of folks at Harvard or Yale Law who seem to have gotten there based on nothing but familial inertia.
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On October 30 2015 01:49 xDaunt wrote:
As an attorney, I'll be the first to say that the intelligence of law students (even those from Harvard) is wildly overrated. But let's not pretend that Cruz was your average Harvard Law student, and implying that he was is outright dishonest. He was legitimately the cream of the crop.
So was Obama. But he believes in climate change and understands that shutting down the government is bad.
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On October 30 2015 01:43 farvacola wrote:
I think the topic of Ted Cruz's (and Carson's, for that matter) "intelligence" is an interesting opportunity for folks to confront the very real fact that many of the professions we are taught to associate with intelligence are, in fact, full of very skilled idiots. One of my law professors was a Supreme Court clerk much like Cruz was, and though he's definitely a "smart" man in many ways, he's also belligerently stupid when it comes to some very basic concepts (he once told me that he did not know how critical or interpretative theory was relevant to the study of law.....yeah....). In any case, it's clear that how we conceive of intelligence in the general sense needs a fair bit of work; people need to become more comfortable with the notion that some very smart people can also be very dumb.
Carson certainly opened my eyes in that regard, before hearing him I would not have believed an accomplished neurosurgeon could be so stupid.
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On October 30 2015 01:33 DickMcFanny wrote:
So you actually believe he genuinely thinks neither climate change nor evolution are real?
I don't think that's possible...
There are plenty of people with advanced degrees in the sciences who hold views that are not compatible with what they have been taught. There are people with PhDs in Biology who are super religious and believe in creation etc etc. Don't underestimate the power of people compartmentalizing their thoughts and holding views that are irreconcilable with each other.
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I didn't really watch the debate last night and didn't realize how awful the questioning was. Seriously, WTF?
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I am not a Republican and I do not like any of the candidates who were on that stage last night but even I thought the moderation was cringe-worthy. For my part (although I won't be voting in the Republican primaries) I would rather they actually discuss the issues in these debates rather than try to pit the candidates against one another. Moderators can bring up all of the Republicans' crazy positions once we get to the election debates next fall, but I kind of hoped last night would have been more about the U.S. economy and less about each candidates personal and professional failures, however relevant they might be.
And speaking as a Democrat, the fact that the media seems hellbent on trying to torpedo every single potential Republican nominee will hurt us in the long run. If you make the American public hate and distrust the media more than they already do, and manage to tie the media to the Democrats, which is not that difficult to do, you end up digging a hole for the Democrats, not the Republicans.
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Trump got completely blindsided by that "gun-at-your-business" question. His response was hilariously awful. "I like to be unpredictable." I'm crying with laughter.
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